Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights?

Gosc your are being histerical and telking5 fibs.

Talking a lot of histerical rubbish yet noone so far proved were is that alleged discrimination. ?

" gang bangs or free sex orgies with multiple partners while crazy on drugs "

sounds fab, can I sign up too?

Levi, why 'gay' orgies - heterosexuals have been doing the same thing for centuries.

Lyzko it ais qestion of perspective, for me your concept of what progresocei, tolerance and democracy strike me as arartificial, narrow and wrong. Western intelectual are on extremities of bending backwoods, with their collective head firmly stuck up their bottom, metaphorically speaking.

Now that would be a better focus for your energies than all this LGBT stuff. Seeing what you can do to help those in need, and if you're already doing that, which you may well be, what more could you be doing? You've mentioned those with nothing before and you sounded quite sincere about it, so I think you're a decent person at heart with a bit of charity and compassion in you.

A nice bit of news:


thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/210617,Rainbow-installation-leaving-Warsaw-square#.dpuf

Ha ha , and those hand picked people have to say about public money being spend on this structre, chidren can go hungry but money for the structure must be paid from public money.

That tawdry piece of crap simply on aesthetic grounds should be demolished at once. That metal arch imbedded with cheap plastic flowers disfigures an elegant little square which I beleive was the only one to survive WW2. It'd be like installing an inflatable toy elephant over the entrance to Buckingham Palace. Amusing on 1st April but seedy, cheesy and disgusting thereafter.

'Hand picked'?

So you propose to close the city's art galleries to buy food? Not that this has much to do with Poland's respect for people's rights. But very good that the majority approve of it.

You are comparing National Zachęta Gallery to that tawdry monstrosity defiling a beauiful classic square? And that idiot of a Mayor Gronkowiec-Waltz* says she will keep spending taxpayers' money to renovate that abortion until hell freezes over.

*The "waltzing staph Infection" is an appropriate tag for that poor excuse of a lady mayor.

You mean the art installation?

"Levi, why 'gay' orgies - heterosexuals have been doing the same thing for centuries."

As long as it is inside closed doors amont consenting adults, i dont care. If they want to destroy each other esfincter, their problem.

The problem is when the gay lobby starts to want to have the right to have gay anal orgies in the middle of the streets in front of the churches.

Seen many of those, or are you just making it up?

More old cobblers from you as usual

At 8 o'clock, this morning, I passed in front of the Rainbow and guess what, still there, still in perfect shape and no police, no dogs, etc etc... A normal day in the area so please when you don't live in Warsaw and often not even in Poland, stop telling the BS you may find on the net because the reality is completely different

Gosc I think we should make a video and put it up on the net so certain brainwashed people can see the big fat lie they believe and repeat.

@Polsyr: They would deny it anyway. This goes not only for Poland but for any other place. There are millions of BS sites on the net and idiots take for granted what they read.

Re the rainbow, I have read that the contract signed by the city of Warsaw and whoever has decided to install it shall end at end of 2015 and therefore it could be removed later on this year but right now, it's there and does NOT need any protection.

@gosc of course they will deny it, it doesn't mean we let them lie unchecked :)

@jon357:

In Poland you still cannot see those gay sponsored acts in front of Churches because in Poland they are still at the first step of their so used plan: Claim right to marriage and etc.

But in all other countries were gays dominated, like Sweden, Parts of France and large swathes of South America, they started like that.

First they clam right to state provide them with marriage, them special quotas at public service, then they ask to prohibition of religions, and at the end anyone that says anything about gays go to Jail.

In those countries gays have special protection law that almost give to them super-citizen status.

This is what is going to happen in Poland in the Future.

Complete political correctness tiranny that will opress anyone that dares to speak up as a polish traditional citizen. Everyone will need to at least be, obligatory, simpathizer of the GLBT cause. Or will end in Jail.

@BTTrr: where have you seen gays have more rights than "others" in places like Sweden, "some parts (?) of" France?????? I don't know re Sweden but in France gays are allowed to marry (other gays) and this is in the whole country, not parts thereof ;).

You can't see


anywhere - they don't happen; this is only your fantasy.


As is this.

"anal orgies IN FRONT of churches"???????? Where? However, there are anal and vaginal orgies INSIDE churches (one example among thousands: the 800 or so bodies of new born babies found under a convent in Ireland last year).

I bet "anti'(= krypto) gays would love to take part to those anal orgies. The most obsessed by sex are among the most religious.

I don't understand the comment Gosc. It was a home for unmarried mothers so obviously the girls were pregnant when they went in there and their babies must have been murdered by the nuns, utterly, utterly shocking but these babies weren't the result of orgies in churches.

@Atch: if babies killed by the nuns, it's even worse but no one can deny that the catholic Church is over... sexed ;)

@Johnny; I only repeat what bigots say/write. Where the hell have they seen "anal orgies in the middle of the streets in front of churches"? Nowhere but only in their dirty minds.

I don't think the nuns killed anyone. There were higher infant mortality rates and these were all home births - whether or not they did their best for sick babies or just let nature take it's course is a deeper issue.

This does illustrate that lapses in human rights can happen anywhere and why pro-active, constructive and supportive monitoring is necessary.

In Poland, there have been lapses too, but the world is getting better and with the support of the EU, rights are being taken more seriously.

In fact here in Poland, whenever Poles have been in charge, the laws covering human rights have mostly been very progressive. And now they're steadily improving.

But the supposed symbol of Poland's LGBT citizens is supposed to be guarded round-the-clock by riot police and attack dogs!


It would be off-topic for me to comment on that statement in this thread washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/06/09/the-truth-behind-irelands-dead-babies-scandal-five-questions (remove the space, I've deliberately broken the link due to forum rules).

In the US, as far as I know, no-one has gone yet to jail for disagreeing with the hmo-agenda, but people have lost their jobs and received phone threats.

In Poland, they started by asking only for homo civil partnerships and avowing. "We are not interested in marriage and adoption rights." Now they are opnely demanding the "right" to marry and adopt orphans (most of whom have already been through enough in their young lives and deserve a better fate).

It is good to see how this totalitarian agenda is being pursued in other countries, because their sick ambitions are global and they hope to eventually encompass the entire planet. It will be interesting to see how the global rivalry between ibertine decadence and Muslim fundamentalism plays out.

As opposed to homosexuals, many of whom have been murdered for being gay.


I asked you to "Show me a quote from a person who claims to speak for all homosexuals." So far you have failed to do so. Why is that?

Thanks Harry. I didn't express myself very well. I was thinking more of murder by neglect. As Jon says the infant mortality rate was high and I'm sure little was done to care for sick babies.

That nun thing is an example of how stories get twisted. Just the same with a lot of the anti-gay stuff in this thread. Lies breed lies.