Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights?

Its not that horrible if somebody is homosexual but, i call Poles to refrain themselves from it. Much better is to love vagina and to have children.

But it's nothing to be proud of!

sure, sure, its something private. i love vagina privately and don`t scream on the street about it. For example i don`t scream: ``io voglio donna, io voglio donna!``

Was there democratic Polish disrespect for Lesbians human and civil rights in this case?
"....COPS ARREST WOMAN, 58, FOR BATTERING FEMALE DOMESTIC PARTNER WITH DILDO "
How did I NOT see that coming !
damn.............. there's GOT to be MORE Liberal Political Correctness involved here...... somewhere !
(as in "abusing Co-owned Domestic Property" or...... abuse of a 'Male-Oriented' or..... abuse of Synthetic - "Partner".
This is all getting so confusing.

Is that in Poland? A link or it didn't happen. Not that it's even half interesting or relevant to human rights...


Do you 'scream on the street' about much?


Why would you need to 'understand' other people's private lives?


I suspect you're used to that...

So you support lesbianism? Gay women love vagina too, not just us straight men :-)

Seriously, why would it matter to you who someone loves or what they like doing in bed, provided they don't try to impose their preferences on your right to enjoy yours? I'm not gay, but I have nothing against people being that way.

@Englishmman: Well said! In short "live and let live".

Englishman, if you read more of Crow's posts you would see that he's not homophobic. He has quite an easygoing attitude about it. I think you've misunderstood. Although he's a bit of a crazed pan-Slavic nationalist he seems quite sensible in some respects!

That's how I read his posts.


A very valid point - women seem to be ignored in this thread

I do too believe that Crow is not homophobic. He sures loves women but has nothing against gays and lesbians. As a matter of fact, I am surprised because nationalists and on top of that in that part of Europe are strongly anti homosexuals.

Most likely he's one of those people who simply never thinks about it. Whereas those people who don't identify as LGBT but think about it rather too much are a different story...

@Jon; It is not normal to be obsessed by other people's sexuality, even if not 24/7 like someone does here ;).

Probably crypto or bad experience with ONE person that happens to be gay/lesbian so he puts them all in same bag ;).

@InPolska, but is it truly "other people's", that's the question.


Bingo. And hates that about themselves and causes them too much stress which they externalise.

It is not so easy to acknowledge one's homosexuality (family, work, society....) even in more tolerant environments so it leads to frustration and hatred. It is always interesting to "study" the homophobes....

;)

Shh... now he will come and blast us with a lecture from his JK49, slippery slope style, on how he sees us reaching incest and beastiality via LGBT rights.

@Polsyr: I don't have anyone in mind ;). I just talk in general ;).

We have either the crypto or the guy/woman whose spouse left with someone of the same sex or whose kid happens to be gay/lesbian.

Hatred for a group is not a coincidence.

The only way to break that hatred is to meet and interact with others.

@InPolska: I don't have anyone in mind either :) I love all people equally.

It was the feminist movement that caused guys to go gay.
It became so overbearing that women made themselves obsolete to the mama boys.
The Lesbains now have their boyfriends BOB. (battery operated boys)
The Gay men have each other.
This is the Liberal Progressive Agenda to guarantee human rights to
"enrich" the cultues of the world.

@Polsyr: ;).

But seriously, such hatred is not normal.

@InPolska: it is not hatred, it is confusion...

@Polsyr: probably, but it beats me when I hear/read so much hatred. I know I'm very naive ;)

What is so confusing about Christians hating SIN ?

Johnny, the posters as we know, are talking about the views of a particular person on this forum, not about Christians in general. That person really seems to loathe homosexuals. I can honestly say that living in a Catholic country myself, I have never heard such bitter, angry, hostile words coming out of the mouths of my fellow Christians as I have from you-know-who. You certainly don't come across that way. You come across to me anyway, as a conservative, traditional person with some fears and concerns for the future of the USA but you don't seem to be a hateful person. In fact I would say you are a kind-hearted individual with more good feeling towards your fellow man than bad feeling. You have a sense of humour and enjoy a good old confrontation. The other poster never seems to show anything other than disgust, contempt and anger towards almost everyone on this forum and the world at large.

Does that include those who get people sacked, demoted or fined for not agreeing with the LGBT agenda?

Before we can assess whether it included any Polish people who are sacked, demoted or fined for not agreeing with the "LGBT agenda", you'd need to show us that such people exist. Instead you tell us about people from your own country who you claim to have been sacked, demoted or fined for not agreeing with the "LGBT agenda" but in reality were sacked, demoted or fined for committing crimes such as assaulting a subordinate or distributing hate speech publications to subordinates.


Self-hatred is very common amongst people who have spent their lives in a closet.

Foolish are those incapable of antiicpating what is (according to jon) unstoppable. Poland is no exception. All pathologies and problems found in other countries eventually seep into Poland. When the LGBT crowd strengthens its stanglehold ihere, freedom fo speech will also be threatened and the same abuses will occur in Poland. It's best to be prepared rather than being caught off guard.

Polonius, I'm against people being penalised for not supporting 'the LBGT agenda'. I'm also in favour of penalising people who discriminate against, persecute, threaten or insult those different to themselves. You have a right to an opinion, but you have no right to behave offensively.

I agree wholeheartedly, Englishman! That having been said, I must conclude that certain topics here on PF tend to bring out the more animalistic instincts among us, and regrettably, civility tends to go out the window:-)

Let it be said therefore, that I support the rights of those who live alternatively to live as alternatively as they jolly well please. Although I might not concur with their choices, certainly the Church ought not prevent them from joining Communion. After all, it was G_d who created them, not the bloody Church!!

Remember, man proposes, G_d disposes (Człowiek strzela, pan Bóg nosi kule.)

horrible. Good that my grandmother didn`t sow that scene. She would get trauma and after that would at least one year (if not till the end of life) speak about `last days`.

Really? Can you prove it? And how do you account for men who love feminist women (and vice versa)?