Czech drug legalisation threatens Poland

I read about this study. I don't want to say everything stated in this study is complete rubbish but these studies all have one big problem: They were made on Cannabis consumers that all have become conspicuous to authorities because either the police caught them or they called for help from psychologists.

This would be just like if you analyse the security of airplanes but the only data you get is from airplanes that crashed. All results you would get from such data would be completely distorted and your result probably would be: Never enter an airplane because death from crashing is certain!

You forgot the 'e' Ha! You must be drinking that Scottish crap :P

nonsense, that's not a progression. Rum and whiskey are the same strength. You've just killed your own argument.


I'm pretty sure you don't know the actual definition of this word as you seem to have used it in a completely wrong manner.

Err....you might actually want to read it again there chap, she made a conscious decision to go to harder drugs. Nothing to do with one drug leading to another. In fact, she just wasn't happy with the highs she was getting, i.e. The drugs she was using before going onto heroin didn't suit her, so she kept experimenting until she found a drug that suited her the most. It's really rather simple if you use your head and read between the lines.


That's the problem: you believe without learning the facts, you're a moherowy beret you has learned how to join a forum, aren't you? I bet you are! You're one of Rydzyk's foot soldiers :P

Ok, you probably aren't but you're the type of person that ass clowns like Rydzyk feasts on and turns against rational thought.

One problem I can see with the legalization of drugs is,I'm not so sure that it would cut down that much on crime.What happens when a junkie can't afford to buy any more?He will spend every penny he has on it just as they do now.When he runs out of money he will commit crimes to support his habit,whether by robbing people or stealing from or robbing the place where it is dispensed at.I don't see this changing that much,Just as hardcore alcoholics will steal bottles from a store if he can't afford it.

So just give the stuff to him, free of charge. That's what clinics in the Netherlands have been doing for the best part of a decade and a half. Addicts in those programs commit virtually no crime at all. Clinics in Switzerland have also been giving out free heroin for years: their experiences show it saves society money and reduces crime. Denmark has also been trialing the principle, the results include falling crime rates. Same with Canada.

Nobody is going to answer this question because it's as stupid as pot leads to heroin.

Harry,I agree,but if the motivation behind legalizing it is taxing it,then I don't see Poland doing the same thing.Companies will be set up to make a profit,So I don't see how this will benefit Poland to do this.We have methadone clinics in the U.S. and a big problem is that a lot of junkies use other drugs to enhance it and this has led to crime.I don't know the motivations as to why Poland wants to legalize drugs and there are other hardcore drugs besides heroin and I don't see Poland giving out all manner of drugs,but I could be wrong.

The main difference between drugs are ones that are physically addictive and those that are not.
I don't think the government of any country give out free pot (except for the many medicinal properties it has), Psilocybin, LSD, mescaline and thousands of others, so can easily be taxed.

For example, I hear on the radio here in Poland that 3 million zloty worth of drugs were caught by the police, the don't even tell you which drug.

Bungling them all together is not a good idea, as there are huge differences.

seanBM,I agree as you notice that I mentioned the more hardcore drugs.You can't compile them altogether.Not the same at all.

And one needs to split drug use into recreational and non-recreational.

Harry
No, into more or less toxic. They all poison the system, pot lowers IQ in teens, impairs concentration, memory, abiltiy to learn and has no redeeming qualities except the passing experience of getting high, mellow, blearly-eyed and zonked out.

Are you so strenuously defending pot becuase you are truly concerned about the well-being of youth and society in general or because you like to get high on the crap? Fess up!

Everything is toxic, everything is poisonous, only the dose makes a thing not a poison.


I haven't touched the stuff since I moved to Poland (and for a couple of years before that).

You like to write about things you don't have a clue of! I can't take your comments for serious! All you are stating here is propaganda from hardliners.

He has actually got something approaching a point there. Smoking pot does lower IQ. But only when smoked by teenagers and smoked in large amounts on a daily basis. What p3 somehow fails to mention is that a teenager who drinks a bottle of vodka every day will also have a lower IQ than a person who neither smokes pot in large amounts daily or drinks. Or at least the alcoholic will until he's about 45, then he won't, because he'll most probably be dead.

And there's also the point that smoking large amount of pot on a daily basis is not recreational drug use.

So what is your motivation in all this? To make sure you have access to your działka whenever needed or to make the world a better, clearner-living place?

The current drug laws are failing everybody except the criminals at the top of the drug trade. And from a selfish viewpoint, I don't want to pay for something which fails so badly.

I wanted to menion that too, the thing about alcohol. Thanks!

Do you know a single country where strict laws on drugs have improved anything? Look at countries like the US and Russia that have draconic punishments for the use of drugs. The percentage of drug consuments there is increasing steadily. The only people that suffer, that are put to jail are consuments. Most of the dealers make their money and walk away freely. Things are much better in countries like Holland, Switzerland, Czechia and the liberal German Bundesländer where consuments are not criminalized. In fact the rate of Marihuana smokers in the Netherlands is constant since the 1970s.

I was wondering if you would notice it... :):):):):)
Good!

However, remember that I am talking about rum produced in Czechoslovakia! :):):)

HUH!!!


Actually, it seems you have a language problem (caused by lack of education) but I don`t have time to solve it for you. Sorry.


Now, read it again and see your inconsistence. :):):):)

Don`t tell me that you were wondering if I would notice it. :):):):)


Wow! :):):):)


Wow! Wow! :):):):)


Wow! wow! wow!

Will you write more on me so that I can type 4 wows at a time and break the record? :):):):)

I use the terms use and abuse, tomato tomato.

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(Tomato tomato, doesn't look right in written form, does it)

Wow, yourself.
You read but you do not understand.
Like so many of your countrymen.
Following what you think is being said instead of reading something for yourself.
Refusing to learn things for yourself but just going with the rest of the herd.

It's all a question of attitude, mind over matter and general atmosphere. If the whole drug scene is judged to be risky, harmful, dangerous and one of society's major anarchising factors, then it is something to be avoided and kept at barge-pole length personally and combated and neutralised in a societal dimension. Hair-splitting that this drug is OK, but that isn't, pot doesn't lead to ecstasy, speed and coke... bla-bla-bla is pointless. That constant line of discussion pollutes public space, causing confusion in young minds, and that's what is the most important -- not one's personal desire for self-indulgence.

Too many people somehow cannot rise above 'self', are horse-blinker focused on their own selfish personal pleasures and dislikes and trying to discuss something with the like of them is like attempting a discourse with someone high on grass.

Or that alcohol is worse or better or the same or what have you... They are all toxic substances: nicotine, drugs, alcohol, abused medication (psychotropics, glue, etc,) whose use should be restricted or strictly regimented.

Yaaawn.... you were funny before, but now you are repeating the old boring song. Remember, too much pathos kills the fun. Try to be amusing again. I know it requires some intelligence to avoid repetition but you can do it.