British senior politician compares Poland to South Africa during apartheid

Must have been a while ago if you're calling it the First Division.


Poles who know about racism in football disagree with you and agree with me. Denial of the problem is a serious limiting factor when it comes to dealing with the problem.

i know your kind Harry too well to know what it is behind your pro tolerance campaign
you are just too happy to see something bad about Poland and now jumping to join this slander and defamation in order to satisfy your racist anti-polish nature

you people make me sick

If I really hated Poles, I wouldn't be calling for something to be done about the problem Poland has with racism: I'd just sit back and let the racist idiots make Poland look bad.

Oh, and I wouldn't have spent years working for the good of Poland, wouldn't choose to live in Poland, wouldn't chose to pay my taxes in Poland, wouldn't chose spend almost all my time with Poles and wouldn't have a Polish partner. You haven't really thought through your accusation that I am anti-Polish, have you?

Exactly ! Good post , thank you .


He describes BBC as manipulators and cheaters !!!!!!!!

Erm, as I recall, Panorama isn't actually shown in Poland


Given the great success that the English Football Association has had in sorting out hooliganism, I would suggest there's a lot of know how. Know how that Poland and Ukraine evidently lack.

Don't know what it was called. It was about 5 years ago and the last match I went to. I've only been to three Uk football matches in my life, so I'm not an expert

Generally saying, racism became a very cheap word nowadays.

A girl who wouldn't sleep with a black guy is a racist. Whoever is against Obama and hates rap and hip hop is a racist.

C'mon guys, what about personal preferences???
What if one is simply not sexually attracted to another races?
What if one doesn't like Obama simply because he sucks as a president?
What if one hates rap and hip hop, simply because it's a terrible "music"?. All they do is talking instead to sing and most of what they say, doesn't make any sense or is insulting and vulgar.

De gustibus non est disputandum !!!

I wouldn't say that is in itself racist (although it is somewhat unlikely that one is only attracted to one's own race for reasons other than racist reasons).


As long as that is the reason and the fact that he's black doesn't factor in at all, of course one isn't racist!


If one has listened to Polish rap and hip hop, one knows that the worst of the genre is usually made by white men (although if one has listened to Welsh rap and hip hop, one also knows that the very best of the genre is made by Welshmen), either way it doesn't make one racist.

None of those examples you give are actually racism. However much you think or pretend it has become a 'cheap word' doesn't for one minute impact on the fact that it is one of the worst behaviours of Homo Sapiens.

it has become a cheap word largely because your kind tend to constantly abuse it using it as an offensive weapon against people/nations you don't like for some reason, for example for not being lefty nutters.

You're a smart guy, Harry but you need to delete your statement (above) before anyone will actually read it (LOL)


Yeah but the thing is, that people are being judged before they even get a chance to explain it and in most cases, even after they explain it, no one really believes it and still calls them racists.


Thank you for agreeing with me, Jon but don't forget that this "behavior" is as old as humanity and so, as long as it's just words and not actions, why worry about it? Most of us just say things but will never really do any of it. Let people talk, words are cheap, who cares.

What if a black person votes a guy in for president because they are black? Is that racism?

When I say "racist reasons" I mean 'thinking that people of another racist are inferior to one's own race'.

Well, according to Harry's statement above (#98), it is racism, very likely, Right, Harry ;-)


what about sex appeal, Harry?

I dunno. It seems not voting for Obama for being black is terribly wrong but voting for him because he is black, well who cares, it was a once in a lifetime opportunity, nothing wrong with it.

As soon as trolls start using phrases like that, we know they have nothing really to say. But in fact we knew that anyway.


I don't agree with you, as well you know. Not only is your statement inaccurate; it is also disingenuous.mwords are not 'cheap' and words and actions reinforce each other. There is only one race, and racist behaviour must be stopped, decisively and right away.

How else should I call someone, who get overjoyed because of an air crash killing 96 only because among them was a politician, who was not lefty... You think it's normal ? I don't.

Again, you're avoiding the issue. Though I do feel, and so do quite a few Poles I know, that the world is better off without Lech Kaczynski. His passing is not to be mourned.

To get back to the issue, how do you think Poland should tackle the horrendous problems it has with racism in football?

Hmm, what might Greg do:
a) deny there is any problem;
b) blame the reporting of the supposedly non-existent problem on the British/Jews;
c) claim that while Poland has no problem with racism, the British/Jews do;
d) bang on about the supposed events at Yalta and/or how Jews have always hated Poles;
e) all of the above.

Taking horrendous pish ?


You must be redneck. Sure he/she is not racist. An average racist is a white male and some females, i.e. a black male or female cannot be racist, also in case of a white Jewish male whether he is or not a racist depends on circumstances.

So how exactly does that impact on Polish football racism?

What a funny little man you are! You could happily say the same thing about Lenin, Stalin, Hitler and Mao - but this is ridiculous and in exceptionally poor taste.


I chatted with people at the Leicester University centre on football hooliganism - clever people, and they have to deal with a substantially greater problem. Don't forget though that England only really got moving after 150 people died. Poland has yet to catch up in terms of fatalities caused in part through crowd management issues, part through football culture issues.

Redneck - I would include the management at secondary schools in England that strangely didn't want to know about my Polish wife's teaching abilities. That's racism.

I don't recall any of the dictators you mention living in Warsaw and affecting my life, but there we go, troll away if you wish. Significant though that the more avowedly conservative someone is on here, the more likely they are to be abusive and insulting - its called Internet deindividuation, and you'd never dare insult me to my face.

Interesting that you contacted Leicester University, who are indeed knowledgeable about the way England solved its football racism problems. It took a lot, but was effective. Here we have yet to see one iota of success in this matter.

Anyway, that is getting away from the issue - a critical issue when European politicians are calling for boycotts and there are already sanctions on the country's main team. How do you propose the issue be solved?

And London riots evidently shown how trustworthy that knowledge is, and how it successfully was put to use.

I'm not sure how your mind connects that to football - presumably one of various failed attempts to hijack the thread away from the real issue - the racism in Polish football and how it should be stopped.

There is no such a thing as racism in polish football. It is just a wild claim, concocted by BBC. What we have are just football hooligans, not even comparable to the british ones (London riots anyone?)

Why would the BBC concoct racism in Polish football? To show off their skills at faking TV footage?


What have the riots got to do with football?

Do I have to re-write all the stuff that is not on this page?
British senior politician compares Poland to South Africa during apartheid


It has everything to do with hooligans.

No, no, that's not necessary. I'd just like to be sure that you really believe what you say, i.e. There is no such thing as racism in Polish football. I've heard all kinds of things from people in denial, but it is hard for me to believe that any intelligent person who lives in Poland could actually say and believe this.

Why dont you just call me a fool?