How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland.

well i meant that scabies (scabeia lol) is generally cured by a single treatment, whereas HIV is a bit more complicated.

@rozumiemnic

Yesits far less severe than hiv but that doesnt mean we shouldn't care about it. The common cold is also less severe yet people take precautions to avoid catching it. Scabies isnt not as simple as taking a pill or cream and they're all gone immediately. The reason why its breeds and spreads so fast is because of the unhygienic conditions migrants live in. So even after say they get rid of it on their bodies theyll end up catching it again by being in dirty unhygenic conditions and around infected migrants. Why take the risk? Chlamydia can be effectively treated w oral antibiotics but that doesn't mean I should sleep with slutty women who have it.

yeh its also about living conditions.
However it is fairly simple to treat. I know because I have had it. It is NOT comprable with HIV.
BTW you are starting to sound a lot like that other poster , the weird one, with your talk of 'slutty women'.

You might know this, from another great lummox:
"Those are nice things, coming over here...filling the country with bugs...swindling the peasants...and the poor of Ireland. We want no more strangers in our house."

Are you aware of the HIV situation in Ukraine? It's one of the highest in Eastern Europe and steadily on the rise - and it's mainly transmitted through sexual contact there not intravenous drug use. But you don't have an issue with Ukrainian migrants.


Not many Joycean scholars here I imagine, though Roz has probably read him, she's a very well read girl :)) It is Joyce isn't it??

'Tis, ma'am. The Citizen, from the Cyclops episode.

thank you Atch, yes I have read some Joyce.

Dirk, google AIDS/HIV in Europe- it's on the rise but due to lack of health and drugs education not diseased immigrants.

One person from a country that shall remain nameless, as an example, was telling my son 'no use condom, no feel nice'

Now I'm more partial to a bit of Flann O'Brien myself - "a very strange pancake".

@Dirk, would you care to comment on the TB ridden Muslim hordes that will inevitably follow Polish sponsored entry of Turkey to the EU? I'm sure Poland will be their first choice having already received such a warm endorsement from the Polish government.

" I asked my mother where my father was and she told me he was in the jug.
I looked in the jug but all i could see was some sour milk"

TB ,HIV and scabies ridden hordes.

Sounds like The Poor Mouth. If you can understand that strange book, you can understand the Irish.

Mmmm. You read that on a website a few days ago after your initial confusion :)


And that's an example of the scare-mongering tactics I referred to earlier. Don't be so utterly ridiculous.


I think you'll find that Sweden does an excellent job of taking care of its citizens, far better than your own homeland of the USA.

In fact less than 0.5 percent of migrants in Sweden are HIV positive.

The luxury cruise ship was 35 years old and already retired from service.

No hotels have been bought out - the German govt asked for tenders for a temporary solution and this was won by Holiday Inn, a US company.

Where do you get all these lies from ?

i think it's funny an American going on about migrants being treated too well when
a. American citiizens are treated like dirt by their government (superdome New Orleans, good example) and yet
b. it is a country now made up almost entirely of migrants...and
c. there wouldnt even be half of much of a refugee crisis without American war mongering world wide.

In London i can see immigrants mainly from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia. Now, what do these countries have in common?

@rozumiemnic

As if the points in an argument somehow change if they're being delivered to someone who is not a US citizen. I find this to be the same sort of argument meant to shutdown discourse or facts that you don't agree with, when someone speaks about certain points on race relations, and then tells the person they can't comment because they're white and doesn't know what its like. The substance of the argument is the same regardless of who delivers it. So unless you are willing to address the points that were made, trying to obfuscate the argument in your favor by bringing up erroneous facts about the person delivering the message is quite telling.

As you know, the report doesn't say that. I didn't bother to read the rest of your post because of that.

well you are wrong , i have no desire to shut anyone down, I would just like them to put their brains into gear before starting the mouth.

America started wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and because of that there are huge amounts of refugees.
To then have an American shouting the odds about refugees in Europe, is a little galling to say the least, and I have every right to point this out.

@Dirk diggler

I think we would all be very interested in your sources.... .

They are nonsense - he cannot seem to read details or do maths. On top of that there is the normal embellishment - a bankrupt business hotel in dreary Halle is somehow a 4 star resort. A mothballed cruise ship dragged out of Brest harbour is a luxury liner etc.

Well stick to your guns if you're so inclined. I'm correct and you know it or at least you should know it. If you just lying or if you're misinformed that would be still is your problem not mine.

Poland won't take some strangers on German say so because it doesn't make sense and furthermore its engenders security of Polish citizens. If Germany doesn't know what to do with money they should first pay their due - compensation to Poland for the war.

most of so called refugees who come to Europe now are from Maghreb and Subsahran Africa - I haven't heard of the US intervening there lately

@cms

10 30 or 100 years old...Doesn't change the fact swedes have to pay almost 100k a DAY to rent a cruise ship to house migrants, according to Swedish sources.

@Roger5

Yes it does. The very first sentence is 'four put of ten people with hiv in the EEA is a migrant to the country' and cites Spanish center for epidemiology.

Neither does it take a genius to see that the rates of HIV prevalence in sub sahara is as high as 20%. Those same people are entering Europe.

That is not the same as 40 percent of migrants having HIV - christ only knows what kind of schooling you get there.

The cruise ship cost is less than 50 euro per day per head. Its difficult to eat and drink on that money in Stockholm let alone find a bed. It's p to the Swedish taxpayers if they want to put up with it.

And where exactly did I say that 40% of migrants have HIV? That's right - NEVER once have I said 40% of migrants have HIV. If you wanna go personal I'll tell you this - my schooling, income, house, cars, woman, and anything else will always be superior to anything you'll be able to attain - you can bet on that.


EXACTLY!!!! And its up to Polish citizens to say NO!!!! Same as with Hungary, Austria, Czechy, Slovakia, Bulgaria, and the numerous other countries E of Germany who don't want hordes of muslims and African migrants screwing up their country. Our ancestors built Europe for US - not for migrants thousands of kilometers away.

Cms. It's not worth it.

You claim that Merkel said that all people who reach Germany were refugees and that the German government would change the criterias for political syslum on a whim. Both are objectively false, or can you provide us with a source for these claims. You are either lying or intentionally misinformed.@Dirk diggler

@Dirk diggler


Yes, because those buisness men exploit a desperate situation. We had cases like this when e.g. a hotel owner charged for completely run down rooms more than 200€ per night. And why do we have this situation? Because a few countries have to deal with all refugees.


Another false claim. The Taliban were only recognized by two countries: Pakistan and Saudi-Arabia.

@gumishu

From trivago.ie > Hotels in Halle (Saale)
The elegant 4-starMaritim Hotel Halle awaits its guests in the town centre across from the central railway station

You really have poor reading comprehension. Find where I said 40% migrants have HIV yet???


Exactly. Because you guys took them and let them stay. We didn't take them and hence have no such problems - same with the long list of countries that also didn't take in hordes of migrants.


Technically you're right the UN didn't recognize them. Nonetheless, they ran the country from 96-2001. They were the main party in power.

Still, this was BEFORE the US invasion.... all afghanis know is war, poverty, heroin, screwing underage chai boys, Allah Akbar, abusing their ninja women, etc. They can't even build a factory on their own to produce something useful like cars, generators, medicines, etc and you expect them to contribute? When the Americans came they literally had to even teach the afghani literally not to shyt where they eat and basic hygiene because they were too dumb and backward to even figure that out.

Post 221. In fact it was 75 percent.

It is not a resort and not elegant.

Anyway as Roger says not worth it - I'm off in the Maluch to see if I can scrape together enough grosze for some flaczki to eat with my ugly wife in my hovel. :)

WRONG AGAIN. Earlier you claimed that I said '40% of migrants have HIV' which I never did.... I wrote the following - Libyans claim 15% of the migrants they catch have HIV (from either a vice or journeyman documentary on youtube - I think it was journeyman though), 4/10 HIV patients in EEA are migrants (which I bolded in post 221) AND wrote that 75% of migrants in Sweden are HIV positive WHICH IS BACKED UP BY A PRO HIV SITE LOL...

hivplusmag.com/treatment/2017/2/20/europe-seeing-vast-growth-hiv-positive-migrants

What it says exactly, word for word, unedited it this:

The proportion of migrants living with HIV in Europe reportedly vary from one percent in Romania to 75 percent in Sweden. Exactly as I pasted it in post 221...

That means again, the proportion of migrants with HIV is 75% - you have roving groups of mgirants where 3/4 of the guys are infected... coupled with the skyrocketing cases of rape since 2015 (when the migrant crisis started) and you're in for a scary situation for European women and Europe in general.

And you question my schooling rofl? Within a few posts you've managed to comprehend information incorrectly, make numerous false claims (i.e. the hotel isn't 4 star, a 'mothballed' cruise which Swedish taxpayers idiotically spend 100k USD PER DIEM to house migrants in - sounds like its not too shabby for that price), quote things I've never said (40% of migrants have HIV), revise it to something that is also false - 75% of migrants have HIV (which speficically in the case of Sweden according to a pro hiv source is accurate), and question my sources which in the case of HIV infections among migrants are backed up by pro-hiv living sources, not some 'fear monger' as the left loves to call them.


You said it was NOT a 4 star resort earlier. Trivago, a multi million dollar travel and booking business, is better able to determine what classifies as a 4 star resort/hotel better than you.


Sucks to be you = / Don't start with the personal attacks if you can't take them yourself. Unlike you, I'm able to admit if I said something inaccurate. You instead have poor reading comprehension and repeatedly cite things that were never said.

You guys are letting this liberal groupthink echo chamber take over your arguments. I haven't heard one of you challenge the fact that Merkel unilaterally made this decision for the Eurozone, and then expected member states to 'bare the burden' once she realized how monumentally she F'd up. Regardless of whether you address it or not, all of this postulating means sod all because the FACTS ON THE GROUND are, Poland is NOT taking these people, no matter how much bellyaching the EU does. Full stop.

Now you can go all Ban Ki-Moon on this thread, and hold a binding god damn resolution, if it makes you feel better and gets you your virtue signal points for the day. Poka poka!