How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland.

Norway has free movement of ppl with the EU -so its not gonna be accepted by Britain.


huh?why such delay?its seems like they dont wanna do it at all.even Farage said that among brexit camp leaders are some traitors.

i cant see reason for such delay unless someone is planning another referendum.if they want to leave then do it quick and then got on with the job,market doesnt like uncertainty.

Or hopefully ever.

I think Gove is being deliberately awkward. The EU are trying to give them the hurry-up and Britain are not having any of it. His actual words were:

"We control the timing of when we trigger Article 50 and we will do it when we're good and ready."

same ppl were saying how great future awaits Britain after leaving..not rushing to greatness is kinda confusing message to voters.
if its so great thing-why waiting so long?

Good for them. In the meantime they continue to pay and are bound to EU rules without having a say anymore. Very clever.

I think they're slightly in shock because they didn't expect to be given the bum's rush as they have been. And I think they're angry too for the same reason. It's a bit like being man-handled out the doors of an exclusive gentlemens' club and given a kick up the arse out into the street! Very undignified.

Have you seen Farage's speech to the European Parliament?

That's why the EU will fail, the leaders are not only petty technocrats with little understanding of how human nature works (at both the individual and societal levels) _and_ they're arrogant and inflexible. Neoliberalism and open borders uber alles which is not what the majority of citizens in most countries want.

It's sad, because in its day the EU did a lot of good for a lot of countries, but the day is over and there's nothing to be gained in pretending otherwise.

Recently President Duda said the free flow of people was the EU's major achievement.

Duda, the dud of a dude, is actually right. But that's _within_ the EU, the leadership has moved on to insisting that everyone from the middle east, central asia and africa with nerve enough to get on a dangerous boatride should be made welcome in Europe, and that Germany should be able to tell other countries how to police or not police their borders, which is kind of... insane.

The quickest way for the EU to be saved would be for the EU leadership to remember the first word and be pro-European rather than pro-everybody-else.

Haven't we agreed that Polish public figures should not to be publicly ridiculed on the forum. Even some really vile characters like the Warsaw mayor aren't being called Gronkowiec anymore although she is every bit as toxic as a staph infection. And the former PM and current European Council president is just as shifty-eyed as ever but is no longer being referred to as shifty eyed Donny. BTW, he is reported to have been a Stasi stooge codenamed Oscar. Anyone know the details?

I'll stop when you do. Deal?



Well, that didn't last long.

And has been for 30 years with no progress.

The UK is entering a recession.Property is falling in price, one in six adverts on Zoopla are cut this week. Up to 40% falls are predicted. I've seen to local (to my home) examples of 16% and 22% asking price cuts.

Most commercial deals have invoked a Brixit clause and are either being renegotiated or cancelled.

Developers are moth balling projects and architects closing up. In six moths there be lost of unemployed builders.
My employers (we lend money to buy property) lost 40% of its funding on Friday. An immediate fall in current valuations of 15% is about right.

Thats just property and finance, the knock on effects of an evaporation in confidence in everything UK will be felt by everyone/


Parliment controls it, not him or the Government

I'm pretty sure that it was agreed that nicknames like "The Duck" for Kaczyński should not be used without the real names since those not acquainted with Polish politics won't know who is being referred to.

But I did use the politician in question's real name too so no foul.

Back to the topic of the thread please

gosh..this guy next British PM Gove has so punchable face.hes not to be trusted.you can read "punch me" from his mug.why Boris quit? seems like he was betrayed.or he chickened out

More likely Theresa May. I can't stand her either, but Gove is a total liability.

Theresa May isn't pro-migrant, so possibly bad news for Poles, however she's also far less likely to trigger Article 50 and leave the EU.

but what consequences of such thing for conservatives? i mean that would be total betrayal of public who voted. cons would lost credibility.
UKIP support would skyrocket

"cons would lost credibility. " Not at all they will engineer it so that the public think cons are pro exit but "due to some understandable division"

a snap election will be called, brexit will be reversed.

It's questionable whether or not they have a mandate to trigger Article 50, especially if they win a general election on that basis.


Not really. It was always made clear that the referendum was non-binding, the majority was less than 2% (and when averaged out with the turnout, only around a third of eligible voters voted 'leave'), many of the leave voters have admitted they did so on the basis of incorrect information from the leave campaign and are now regretting it, and above all, there are solid grounds under constitutional law not to trigger Article 50.


Fortunately with the first-past-the-post system, that doesn't mean they'd win any seats.


Yes. The result could go either way (a lot depends on whether we in Labour can consign the Islington beardy to political oblivion or not) however both parties are likely to have the same policy here. The LibDems (rember they were part of a coalition a while ago) would do well if the Islington beardy and his trot entryist followers are still around and their declared policy is to ignore the non-binding referendum. The SNP, Britain's 3rd party are very clear that their voters wish to be in the EU.

nahh..i dont believe cons gonna pull that stinker. look,most of them support Gove as next PM now,Gove who is fanatical brexiter and radical conservative.so its clear that cons gonna stick to leaving EU

" referendum was non-binding," Spot in Jon, It was only an indicator the government do not have to act upon it

Article 50, who would invoke it or put their name to it only to come up on Wikipedia as the person who possibly destroyed Britain.

Snap election will override all, and no main party will be on a brexit ticket, so the brit choice will be UKIP if they want brexit.

Ah the sweet smell of crushing democracy....

Ah the sweet smell of crushing democracy.... never been any different, but that's only my opinion.

Property is falling in price, Good it will give the young people the opportunity I had 30 years ago, to have a family home.

Well it seems Arron Banks the UKIP fund manger backer is now backing Andrea Leadsom and willing to bank role her campaign for leader and PM.

She is a Brexiter too and held her own in TV debates. She is an ex senior at Barclays and will be better than May the turncoat.

Not a chance of winning.

Who is Andrea Leadsom... need I say more!

Well we will see. It's round one on Tuesday.

Although they're voting Leadsom to keep Gove off the ballot papers. May did nothing for immigration and that works against her with the public.

There is no immigration within the EU. There is the free movement of citizens.

There is hardly anything resembling immigration in Europe (in terms of people learning local languages and integrating into local social networks).

Immigration is a feature of the nation state and all the powers that be in the West are doing their best to destroy the nation state model.

The Brexit vote is a major obstacle in that plan (or ironically a move in the direction of destroy since the EU is ironically enough trying to turn the EU into a nation state).

Yes it did, because those were simply given as examples of NO LONGER USED NICKNAMES. The "dud" was your violation of the unwritten rule or gentlemen's agreement. But then again, one would have to be a gentleman, wouldn't one?.

Indeed. This is a cornerstone of the EU.