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1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death


jon357  73 | 22967  
2 Sep 2012 /  #31
Still a widely accepted and longstanding term, whether you like it or not. Nevertheless, despite the backwards habits prevalent in Polska B, the EU is pouring billions of Euros in subsidies to make the progress they have never achieved alone.

A Poland with fewer white people would still be Poland. Not the unchanging Poland of rosy-cheeked maidens and gallant hussars squeezing their own twarog in simple (but somehow noble) hovels and singing merry folk songs in the snow after a morning in church. But then again, that doesn't exist now, does it?
milky  13 | 1656  
2 Sep 2012 /  #32
Please define Polska B, thank you in advance.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_A_and_B
teflcat  5 | 1024  
2 Sep 2012 /  #33
Not the unchanging Poland of rosy-cheeked maidens and gallant hussars squeezing their own twarog in simple (but somehow noble) hovels and singing merry folk songs in the snow after a morning in church. But then again, that doesn't exist now, does it?

No, nor did it ever, except perhaps in the minds of romantics with Polish roots. A bit like the Boston Irish but without the humour.

backwards habits prevalent in Polska B, the EU is pouring billions of Euros in subsidies to make the progress they have never achieved alone.

I live in what, unfortunately, is called Poland B, and I simply do not see the same backward rural hopelessness that you seem to. My area is coming along very well, thank you.

btw way Polonius. What's all this Poland's slow death? You really are a drag.
jon357  73 | 22967  
2 Sep 2012 /  #34
I must admit, I enjoy visiting out of the way places. Especially rural idylls and even spend time regularly in Podlasie. Though there is Poland B and Poland B. Off the beaten track isn't always fun.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
2 Sep 2012 /  #35
A Poland with fewer white people would still be Poland. Not the unchanging Poland of rosy-cheeked maidens and gallant hussars squeezing their own twarog in simple (but somehow noble) hovels and singing merry folk songs in the snow after a morning in church. But then again, that doesn't exist now, does it?

Leftists - fail. It's a tyranny of the dysgenics. The kinds of bipeds who rarely lived long enough to reproduce in the past now constitute a numerical majority of astounding proportions. Do you know why there are so many of them? Somebody like me has felt sorry for them and extended medical technology and welfare and social support and preferences to them.

The best and brightest build the civilizations, then the botched and bungled achieve critical mass and break them down. This is why societies last an average of 200 years or less - just divide it right down the middle. The virtuous and noble on the left side with the good genes, the right half of that Bell curve are the leftards who then breed like flies and tear it all apart in an orgy of total insanity. The chromosomal misfires and DNA discharges could never create anything. They can only destroy. It's not any one race or ethnic group, either. It's the unspoken brotherhood of the genetically shabby and sorry that works together as a team on all fronts to rip it all up.

Afterwards the leftards sit around and cry in the smoking ashes as the barbarian multikult invaders puncture their sphincters and wonder what they did wrong. Oh, right ... what with the massive dismantling and destruction of everything ... right ...

It's aways too late to matter at this point. That's the leftard for you.
jon357  73 | 22967  
2 Sep 2012 /  #36
Somebody like me has felt sorry for them and extended medical technology and welfare and social support and preferences to them.

No. Most emphatically not 'somebody like you' since every sentiment you've expressed here suggests you would not help this mysterious group of others. The world gets by just fine without either help from the type of person who would write the above. Fine without spurious 'race theories' like the bell-curve etc.

And Poland will be here long after the complexions of its inhabitants have darkened.

by the way, learn the meaning of dysgenics
InWroclaw  89 | 1910  
2 Sep 2012 /  #37
Seems to be plenty of kids here in Wroc - make terrible noise on public transport, prams everywhere.
The other week a grandmother asked me to help get an occupied buggy up some steps on to the tram. The other person helping suddenly let go and the buggy nearly tipped over, I grabbed it quickly and have had back pain ever since. The agony I'm in much of the time now reminds me of that fact all the time, not to mention the several in different flats that cry and scream and run around like crazy in my apartment block.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
2 Sep 2012 /  #38
No. Most emphatically not 'somebody like you' since every sentiment you've expressed here suggests you would not help this mysterious group of others. The world gets by just fine without either help from the type of person who would write the above

99.9999% of mankind are leeching fleas living off the blood and achievements of people like me. Without my kind, you would not have a private bathroom, much less heat and electricity.

And Poland will be here long after the complexions of its inhabitants have darkened.

When a White lady and a Black man mate and produce a child, everything else is dwarfed by the fact that the intelligence of the child will be between the averages of those two races, statistically speaking, on average (not between the IQs of the parents). It's a gamble game you don't want to play, unless you prefer your children to be stupid rather than intelligent.

Genes are everything. A dog won't solve the problem of universals.

Polska B

You tripped off the wrong stone here.

Achievements in humanity have come from illiterate and uneducated people.

Junior school passouts working as bicycle mechanics would create a working plane - this was the Wright Brothers.

A simple farmboy who walked all the way to Detroit to buy groceries would build an entire automobile industry there - that was Henry Ford.

A beggar turned store clerk would later start one of the largest department stores ever known and buy a skyscraper in cash - that was Woolsworth.

Another petty department store clerk would learn its workings top down and then drive all department stores nearly out of business with suburban retail stores - that was Samuel Walton.

Sorry. Your idea that achievements come not from ordinary people is what has been used to justify centralised communistic, globalistic, and insitutionalistic governments throughout the world. Genius is no replacement for the human exchange among millions of independent people making independent decisions among each other - specific knowledge about specific situations comes from the people who deal with their respective situations, not educated ivory tower men like you.
jon357  73 | 22967  
2 Sep 2012 /  #39
Without my kind, you would not have a private bathroom, much less heat and electricity.

Somehow I suspect you haven't actually achieved that much and I can assure you that I have a private bathroom, several in fact, entirely without the help of 'your kind'.

It's a gamble game you don't want to play, unless you prefer your children to be stupid rather than intelligent.
Genes are everything. A dog won't solve the problem of universals.

It really makes no difference. There is one race. the human race. Get over that and actually go out and achieve something instead of brooding about skin colour.
sobieski  106 | 2111  
2 Sep 2012 /  #40
Please define Polska B, thank you in advance.

Polska B thinks rydzyk and the duck will save Poland.

In any country where wealth goes up, birthrates go down. This is logical. In poor societies parents rely on lots of children to support them in their old age.

In wealthy societies, the system takes over this obligation.
In my native Belgium, when I was young in the sixties...my parents have 5 children, my friends' families also have 4-6 children. Now the average family has 1-2-3 children.

Nobody thinks they are the victims of atheists.
It is solely to be contributed to the material evolution of society.
P.S. The remaining duck is in poor position to comment on this one, given his common known "natural inclination" :)
kondzior  11 | 1026  
2 Sep 2012 /  #41
There is one race. the human race.

Lefists often pretend on the teevee that race does not exist. They then go on to say something about "mixed" (what?.) WTF ?
If race does not exist, what the heck are you mixing ?

Get over that and actually go out and achieve something instead of brooding about skin colour.

These superficial skin color differences are used to define someone as being a "race". The reality is far more complex than a mere set of genes that happens to influence outward appearance.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
2 Sep 2012 /  #42
Nevertheless, despite the backwards habits prevalent in Polska B

Which areas are Poland B ?

I live in what, unfortunately, is called Poland B, and I simply do not see the same backward rural hopelessness that you seem to.

The funniest thing is that the same people use to accuse their opponents of "dividing the society".
milky  13 | 1656  
2 Sep 2012 /  #43
If race does not exist, what the heck are you mixing ?

The human race,stupid.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
2 Sep 2012 /  #44
Why is everyone always so concerned with people's reproductive choices? There will always be Poles in Poland. Just leave them alone and let them do it their way. They know what they can handle. The younger generation cannot constantly care for the older one. People are going to have to find a better way to do things.
teflcat  5 | 1024  
2 Sep 2012 /  #45
99.9999% of mankind are leeching fleas living off the blood and achievements of people like me. Without my kind, you would not have a private bathroom, much less heat and electricity.

Thanks man. I guess I must be a leech. Just so I know, what have you done exactly?
kondzior  11 | 1026  
2 Sep 2012 /  #46
kondzior: If race does not exist, what the heck are you mixing ?
The human race,stupid.

What with what? To mix something you need at least two elements, you fool.
milky  13 | 1656  
2 Sep 2012 /  #47
To mix something you need at least two elements,

yea,a man and a woman,stupid.
jon357  73 | 22967  
2 Sep 2012 /  #48
Which areas are Poland B ?

I refer you to the earlier answers however if you have problems understanding them you might use the search function here. It has been discussed before quite adequately.

What with what? To mix something you need at least two elements, you fool.

Unless all your ancestors ae siblings or cousins (admittedly in your case a distinct possibility) you are yourself mixed. What you refer to as 'races' all came from very different people getting together and making love.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
2 Sep 2012 /  #49
Mixed race children have almost no chance of finding bone marrow or organ donors:

Sarah Gaskins, Luke's mother, has Japanese and European ancestors and his father, Lam Do, is Vietnamese-American. Because bone marrow matches usually are made with a relative or someone with the same racial or ethnic background as the patient, multiracial people rarely have success.

Relative or someone with the same racial or ethnic background. Which really means just someone of the same race. Except race does not exist, so how do they figure?

One of my natural science teachers once told us this important, eternal truth: science is not free of bias.

Up until the 1970s practically all biologists and psychologists agreed that homosexuals were sick. The only debate was whether it was a genetic defect or a personality disorder or both. But then broad wealth led to decadence, which led to an individualist and hedonist culture, feminists and queer activists started their rise to power and scientists changed their professional opinion. Politics often predetermine what scientists are supposed to proof - and then scientists go ahead and do just that. They are not some kind of superhumans standing high above the culture and politics of their time.

The situation in psychology is even more ridiculous, because it isn't a hard (i.e. real) science so you can basically just make **** up. Imagine a hypothetical Mongol psychologist back in their days of "glory" being confronted with the following patient: "I want to drink the fresh blood of my fallen enemies while their hearts are still pumping and rape girls of all races in the world!". Hypothetical answer: "Sounds perfectly sane and healthy to me." Nowadays the same guy would be locked away in a high security mental asylum. Why? Politics!

But let us get back to the actual topic: back when I was in school our biology books still had a section titled "human races" which would be considered utterly offensive nowadays. Because all the "examples" they chose to represent the different races looked horribly ugly - except the way above average looking white dude they chose to represent their race...

Politics
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
2 Sep 2012 /  #50
all the "examples" they chose to represent the different races looked horribly ugly

Humans are generally ugly.
jon357  73 | 22967  
2 Sep 2012 /  #51
Relative or someone with the same racial or ethnic background. Which really means just someone of the same race. Except race does not exist, so how do they figure?

You're confusing geography with biology. Not everyone who needs a transplant can find a donor (most can't) regardless of skin colour.

Though it's investing that someone could equate bone marrow donations with the declining birth rate in Poland. Not a racist by any chance?
teflcat  5 | 1024  
2 Sep 2012 /  #52
Humans are generally ugly.

True, which is why I avoid mirrors as much as possible. Perhaps K will post a photo of his beautiful self.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
2 Sep 2012 /  #53
But Jon, I am questioning your ridicules statement that races does not exist.
This just means there needs to be more Japanese-European-Vietnamese mixing; then there'll be more potential donors ;)

Seriously though, if the mainstream believes race doesn't exist, why is it that there's a place to indicate your race/ancestry on personal information forms? "Ancestry" is just an euphemism for race used sometimes because the original term became associated with certain bad memories. At what point does this backlash take on the unmistakable characteristics of arguing against a straw man?
teflcat  5 | 1024  
2 Sep 2012 /  #54
I'm clearly too drunk too understand this level of English. Goodnight.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
2 Sep 2012 /  #55
I just don't understand the mentality that the earth has to have such a huge population density or the human species is somehow in decline. Some people will not be satisfied until every square kilometer has a thousand people living on it and even then they will insist more needs to be added.
jon357  73 | 22967  
2 Sep 2012 /  #56
why is it that there's a place to indicate your race/ancestry on personal information forms?

That's of course cultural monitoring - part of the multiculturalism that you say you dislike - nothing to do with DNA and as far as I know it's about how you identify culturally. They don't measure your head or compare your nose to ones on a chart.

Race is just a construct really. It's who you are inside that matters. We are shaped by what's around us, not by our DNA.

investing

My bad - an iPad does that sometimes. Some of the mistakes can be quite funny.
Lodz_The_Boat  32 | 1522  
2 Sep 2012 /  #57
The younger generation cannot constantly care for the older one

This is not how it should be. This is not the way we Poles are naturally. This is what the Americanization brought us too ... we just need to get rid of hit hopefully.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
2 Sep 2012 /  #58
Race is just a construct really

Have you clicked the link I posted above? If race does not exist, then why they need the exact same mixture of... well... races... for a donor?

multiculturalism is suicide, but its supportes welcome this, being self-hating losers. its too bad they're taking everyone else down with them

tribalism or nationalism, you've got to have one, otherwise there is no identity to bind people together. no social cohesion. and the west has rejected nationalism, so it dissolves. that's the core of the decline
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
2 Sep 2012 /  #59
Then what should happen, Lodz? Should people just continually have children to the point there's billions of people living on one continent? Should they keep having more children than the generation before just to care for the previous generation? How is that going to be sustainable?
kondzior  11 | 1026  
2 Sep 2012 /  #60
Population was never a problem. The more people of working age -> the more wealth -> the more resources -> the more capability to transform the environment.

It's only "over-"population if you think people are a burden, economically it's the opposite

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