Poland Should Beef Up Military

I hate to tell you this but getting your arse handed to you on a plate over and over again doesn't qualify you as being a warrior nation.

Well, thanks to good old Britain, France and America ;) ;)

Building bases inside Georgia, what nonsense. In Abkhazia, yes. A province which values its own traditions and doesn't want to be part of Georgia. It is independent and has a better relationship with Russia.

I'm shaking!


Well you did more often than the other way around!


Exactly!

So I really doubt "beefing up your military" is the right way....your military is NOT what will give you security!
But for example being nice to "jebane niemiaszki"..

Let me guess, you know it because you made a history project in your high school... Lol

You gotta ask yourself this. Other than useful practice, what did the Polish troops get out of Iraq and Afghanistan? What telling contribution did they make? Beefing up the military will just present more targets for bigger powers.

No, common knowledge actually. Even tribesmen in the Amazon rainforest know about Poland's track record. I suggest you do a project on it when you get to high school LOL

Ahh, I see that you are a master of well aimed riposte and fast argumentation. I salute you. :)

McCoy this is a great list of wars and thanks for taking time showing it too people what Poland has gone thro! Poland is innocent for the most part, from day one Russians and Germans wanted to destroy us just look at the facts the list! We have to have Armed Forces every country has to have them! Like it was mentioned above years, technology, decades, places, rivers, borders always change but people never do and there will always be wars in this world! There will always be this one person who will be hungry for power and will need to start wars!! Poland should and will have Military Force always and will never get rid of them, and Poland will always spend Zloty/Euro for their army and any country that thinks smart will! But talking about Russia I think with in the next 100-200 years it will brake up in to small countries because they are too big and to poor there will be a civil war in Russia one day and same goes for USA and the (UE will fall apart), and Poland will always be there same, smaller and bigger but it will never go away! Any ways every one is in title to think what they want to but history really likes to repeat her self over and over! I don't believe USA would do any thing if Poland got invaded; it’s all just signatures and paper work that means nothing at the end like history showed us!!

"Poland Should Beef Up Military"

I think we should build some more castles and improve our catapults.
Then we shall invade Gyrmans and rape their men and women.
Next step will be Gauls. We should kill their mighty warriors - Asterix and Obelix (they are a great treat to our National interest)

Crowie? Is that you?















....just some reminders as you don't seem to know your own history very well...
You Poles are as greedy as the best of us!:)
And as I said, you only play the victim because you happen to be now be the neighbours of stronger nations, but that wasn't always the case...You call them your "arch enemies" I call that "sour grapes"! :)

Look at the pictures Mcoy posted and your telling the Polish Military to beefen up??

Continents have not any nuclear weapons but some states, Poland is not among them. However I agree, this is waste of cash if our politicians would spend too much on conventional army. Our potential enemies (in longer perspective) are as usual Germany and Russia, the latter already have nuclear weapons. Germany would join them quickly if they will need. Polish politicians should for once proof me wrong and finally show that they are not completely useless corrupt sellouts.

You are asking the impossible, lesser. They are in bed with America and can't see that they are being used.

What makes you say that?
You surely have reasons, don't you...

3 nuclear countries side by side (no make that four with France) is such a splendid idea! :)

Very true

The kraut really needs to look at basic facts

Which were?

As far as I history remember Poland got handed their independence on a platter after WWI and got even more land after WWII, both not on their own!

That makes you dependant on generous bigger powers but not really the stronger one...:)

What happens when you are on your own shows the time BEFORE allied intervention...surely you've heard of the partitions and 1939?

What is this with Poles and their history understanding?

Just prevention, something that should not be spoken publicly by Polish officials. Poland have no interest to stir up any tensions and certainly should be keep out from involvement in military conflicts. Nuclear weapon or possibly other kind of weapon with similar power is the best guarantee of peace.


Don't forget about their willingness to build EU army.

Well, steps have already been taken in that regard although the overall commitment to that process is somewhat dubious.

Well...your former Kaczynski duo showed to the contrary that Poland likes very well to stir up tensions!

Imagine they would had had nukes....

Eurocrats build their empire using tactic of little steps, so this is just question of time.

True. Very incremental and sneaky. Subtle moves ruffle fewer feathers but the insightful can see what they are doing a mile off.

And that would be???

His foreign policy was really foolish, he was provoking both Germany and Russia. Of course it have nothing to do with Poland possibly holding nukes. His statement were just part of election demagogy. I don't even know why you write this last comment, unless just to provoke some hot-headed posters.

Building up a European army with the eventual intention of merging it with a more cohesive sort of world police. This is the plan of the world government wack jobs like those in the CFR.

Well...they DID stir up tensions the whole time!
And undoubtly if they would still have power we would have seen a further
detoriating of the relationships between our countries....

So what if they had nukes during a tantrum?
Is that so far fetched?


I find nothing wrong with building a European Army....it's the next logical consequence!

But it will take another generation or two...

::laugh

Exactly the point. Step by step.

What's wrong with it?

Nothing really. As long as they have a referendum on such a thing. There aren't enough referendums on key issues these days.