New Polish Light Tank - Anders

It's not the off-road I'm thinking of... it's the crappy "roads" themselves, I'm thinking of.

Most of Polish roads too can't take the kind of tonnage that a Leopard2A6 or a Challenger 2 has. When choosing a self-propelled artillery unit, the Polish Army chose the British AS90 Braveheart on a Polish chasis instead of the heavy German Panzerhaubitze 2000.

No, I was wondering whether the tank could survive the roads (just had to get my car suspension fixed during a service and it doubled the cost... I'm bitter and twisted at the moment!)

A bit like your suspension ;)

Indeed (although hopefully fixed by now!)

That's exactly why a "Flying tank" is what Poland needs. I think this was the reason it was invented - to avoid roads ;) That's why we have them too :)

Trust me, they're better off copying the rest of the EU and using the German or USA tanks.... Leopard for the win.

why name Anders? that`s not Slavic name. Not even particularly Polish

how could one in eventual conflict boost moral in Polish troops... ``Anderses coming! Anderses coming!`` ?? is that non-Slavic name some NATO/EU standard? i don`t wish to see Serbia in those conglomerates if it means to be less Slavic


as a Tank in technical sense, for a Tank, its ok Tank

You think a tank called Mladic would be more proper?

Because it's the name of a Polish hero which everyone in the military knows.

They could at least name the tank Zawisza Czarny.

Look at year... And think what changed in anti-tank weapons since...


Concerning georgia - quite a number of georgian armoured vehicles that was taken by russian army was simply abandoned by crew, fueled and loaded with ammo. So, there was not so much entusiasm on georgian soldiers side to fight and die for Saakashvili stupidity. Not very good example here.

Tanks are a wasting of money. I do not think the Wehrmacht is going to invade Poland shortly. (Although Nazi flying saucers may have downed the midget plane). The Russians...Give me a reason why? To conquer the FSO factories in Warsaw? To take over Manafaktura in £ódż ?

Of course they look good on Army Day. The midget loved to parade in one of them. It keeps the Polish armaments industry happy. But besides of that ?

Weren't there Nuke Mines for just such vehicles-just a few short years ago,when you were the 'Enemy'???

`Zawisza` would be nice. All Poles would love it, Serbs included.


they never heard for `Zawisha`?

Not quite I follow you. The tank was named after a Polish hero of late, not a hero of times long past. Someone that was alive in recent history, and did quite a bit for contemporary Poland. You take issue with that? ...odd.

what would happen with Poles and Poland if all Poles starts to give foreign names to their Polish children??? name of `Andres` for tank is wrong message. In today`s world all counts, all is important in psychological battle for survivor of ethos

Cavalry Torq on nowadays battlefield is unit of military helicopters !

If they're all heroic like Anders, then Poland won't have too many problems in the future.

my respect to Anders and please, don`t take me wrong. People of Serbia has same problem as Poles. We are also under strong foreign influence.

Problem began when parents of that Anders gave (maybe it was not big deal to them, maybe it was just modern at that time) foreign name to their child. Then, child lived for the glory of Poland and eventually died for the glory of Poland. Suddenly, in some other time, some new generations of Poles found that one Anders lived for Poland. Now, that name Andres becoming popular name and spread. If `Andres` spread then, why not some other foreign name, and some more other foreign names.

and, those Poles with foreign names live for Poland. Just, one day, those Poles with foreign names, may conclude, judging by their names, that essence of Poland isn`t Slavic and that actually, Poles belong to some other civilization.... and, they may found out that all glory by people with foreign names actually represent glory of some other civilization, not glory of Slavic Poland. Then,... final end, people of Poland begin to realize that belong to Germanic world.

and all that started after one Polish parent wanted to show how is he kind and open and gave foreign name to his child. Are we Slavs that naive, in this mortal combat that is this world?

Poles aren't that stupid Crow. Gen. Anders first name was Wladyslaw btw...

thank you for letting me know that.

let brat Wladyslaw rest in peace.

i am sure, it would be glad to him if that tank got name `Wladyslaw`.


its not about stupidity. Its their good and naive soul. and plus they are fascinated by powerful neighbors. Evil may fascinate and bribe best of us

and, of course. Russians betrayed them few times and we Serbians too often were preoccupy by our own problems.

Its great, but only one question ?
Can fight the German ones ? if Anders can do it, its perfect :)

As has been discussed here in the past, Polish parents are legally forbidden from giving their children foreign names: so if they want to name their kids after a famous mass murderer, they can't choose Slobodan or Ratko or Radovan.


Perhaps you might like to consider learning the basic facts about things before you mouth off about them? Might not make yourself look stupid on such a regular basis.

Although given the way that you still try to deny that Serbs committed genocide, clearly you care nothing about facts or looking stupid.

Naming a tank Anders sounds like a very good idea, general Anders was one of the greatest generals in Poland.

I believe so, I mean China and Japan gave some of their tanks Dragon names which are technically animals, but that's more cultural. Either way, German tanks are some of the best in my opinion. I wish they would re-introduce a modern-advanced version of the Tiger.

German tank names...

TIGER... PANTHER... LEOPARD... LYNX... others named after other kinds of animals and insects...

Wespe ( wasp ) Hornisse , Elephant .

Any objections? Why? Germans are very rational and practical people. Abilities of the armor and the animal which is "sponsor" supposedly have some similarities. So why not?

Maybe it has even some psychological effect... ;-)

I like that kind of naming...preferable to names of politicians..

*wonders if the world will ever see another Tiger strolling around...a Tiger III?*

Not forgeting the Maus ( mouse ) of course which was the biggest tank to be built during the war....

The huge monster never saw action though , it was blown up to prevent capture by the Russians....

The Russians put it back together using parts from another one , and some spare parts , the only example of this huge tank is now in the Kubinka tank museum near Moscow...

mmm a Tiger 111 , why not , but i think no modern tank could have the superior advantage the old Tiger 11 had in world war 2....

Vastly outnumbered , underpowered , with a few mechanical faults , it nevertheless scared the hell out of anyone that came up against it....