New cross war in Warsaw

71 year old Eugeniusz P.... (picture above)

what for ? Is he mental? or ex (SB) employee?

The Gods of the past are today's symptoms.

It seems to me that most of the people in the bible, if they were alive today, would be locked up as nut-cases, hearing voices, seeing visions (or) hallucinating?

A perfect example is how Abraham would have been front page news as the guy who heard voices telling him to kill his son Isaac.

And we would have been shocked but instead it is being taught to children about how to love God.
My point is that religious people like this stuff, after all they are nuts.
Let them have their cross, it could be the next Lourdes or Knock and as far as I can see it makes no difference to the rest of us.

insane beret...

I read that 3 days of having the city police keep their officers there to maintain order costed 86.000 zł. No comments.

The same old story. It costs the taxpayer but others profit in huge ways.

Ive been getting daily updates about this off my mate in the Warsaw office (he's disgusted about the fuss and said at one point he was ashamed to be Polish!)..I cant believe someone threw sh*t at the plaque that was put up...He also sent me some rap thats been done on youtube about it..But the best is the picuture of the dead duck twin on a horse next to such a noble looking king...

Dont people have more to worry about in Poland?

I admire your sureness :)

Nor, Hero-like who, on their crest still wore
A lyon, panther, leopard, or a bore,

don't tell me it was you?!

As I've said before. The cross was put up as a kind of temporary display that's very common in Poland after tragedies. Clearing away that kind of display afterwards has never been an issue before (the exception being crosses put up where people actually died, but the people in question didn't die in front of the presidential palace).

The government isn't proposing burning the cross, just moving it to a safe place which absolutely should be its perogative. If that displeases enough people it can become a campaign issue and returned to that spot in front of the palace if a party promising to do that is elected. That's how democracies work, not by a handful of people making irrational demands divorced from reality and irrelevant to the great majority of voters.

Am, most really don't and that's the worry! This is the central focus for some and they can't see beyond it. They even guard it overnight. Poles will fight til the cows come home and they don't seem to count the mohair berety as cows :(

I just wonder before saving one's fecal matter in jars to throw around during debates spreads to the Sejm. Or better yet, the European Parliament.

Jerzy Buzek might come back and join in the fun :)

I don't throw **** like some here!:p

I wonder what would happen if Jesus marched into that area, would he disperse the mohair berety with his wand? Would he part the land so that they disappeared? Place your bets, what magic trick would he perform?

I don't think he'd be too quick to give out wine given the jabol on the go ;)

My guess is he'd be disgusted and mutter something about plagues and both their houses...

Meanwhile, Mr. Poop-in-a-jar has just been trumped by an even bigger whacko on the other side who threatened the 'defenders of the cross' with a hand grenade....

wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80269,8265571,Policja_zatrzymala_prz ed_Palacem_Prezydenckim_mezczyzne.html

He could have used some acid, would have been much more effective and so much better.
Anyway, the cross loonies are now demanding that their hero will get a pedestal (or better said, an obelisk with HIS NAME) near prince Poniatowski.

Not only would this be an insult to yet another genuine Polish heroe (first was cold Lech in the Wawel). Also shows the utterly breathtaking arrogance of the Duck clan and the PIS sect.

Could they not put their memorial to their "heroes" in that monstruous church they are building in Wilanów?

I'm just waiting for Kommie to come waltzing down to the square, fag hanging out of his mouth and boozed up, shouting 'what's all the fuss about, losers?'. Come on Kommie, get off the voddies and coke and do sth :)

Whats with odd ball with granades? Isnt that taking it a bit too far? From what I was told it wasnt live, but still...A tad too far if you ask me..

yes, some grandpa had it.... the city of Warszawa plans to close Krakowiskie Przedmiescie....

Hence the word fanatics, Am. They are not Christians and I don't identify with such people at all. Rebels without another cause!

This reminds me of the nonsense that used to go on in Ulster. I was esp. peeved by the way the media used the terms 'Catholic pub' and 'Protestant pub', as if the antagionism had anything to do with religion. The Protestants in their pub were no more reading the Bible than the Catholics in theirs were saying the rosary. It was all ethno-historical politics. In the Polish cross war the alien-ethnic element is not as prominent, unless one considers some of the fanatics blaming the Jews for the whole bloody row.

A ..... _TAD_??????????

I still believe that the decision on whether the cross stays or is (respectfully) moved should be that of the sitting president, but threatening the cross people with a grenade is fooКing insane. This issue is attracting way too many kooks and misfits.

Kommie needs to get off his ass and (finally) grow a pair and do what needs to be done, even if it pisses off some people (no matter what he does, some will be pissed).

If everything is reducible to the costs involved (someone raised the price of the police operation round the Smolensk cross), then all footie matches should be banned. They occur far more frequently than cross rows and cost the taxpayer a huge amount of money in terms of the police presence required to ensure order, not to mention the cost of mending stadiums, parked cars, businesses, patching up battered bodies, etc. when hooligans go on a rampage.

Polonius3 - I agree with you, even though you're probably joking with that banning. I would not ban it of course, but not finance it from the taxes.

The point I was trying to make is that not everything can be evaluated solely in clerk-mentality terms of financial book-balancing.

The tax-payers should start to cry now.

I would personally pay for the tear gas used if the riot police would be nice enough to sweep the scum off the street outside the president's palace.

Lucky the cops did not shoot him...

I know you would use other to carry out your violent fantasy, you are too much of the coward to do something in person.

I-S (Mirror, Mirror on the wall,surly you do lie.)