Polish man tries to sell British mother into white slave trade

Poor thread title. I thought the mans mother is British.

Nope, she's Polish, a retired council worker who lives in Szczecin and named Lucyna.

The guy is a stalker-fantasist who has made up the who sex slave for sale and Black Death gang story.

The whole story seems to take on a new twist each day.

Why did kidnapped British model go SHOE shopping with her abductor? Italian media questions six-day ordeal of beauty auctioned as sex slave on Dark Web as it emerges she KNEW 'monster' who took her.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4768720/Why-did-British-model-SHOE-shopping-kidnapper.html

This one will run and run. The tabloids will be full of it too, not least because of the photos of her that they can print.

A lot will depend on what's found on the Herba brothers' computers, and that will take a while to analyse. The Italians seem to be taking this very seriously.

They're having a field day with it, not least because it seems that much of it isn't adding up.

It reminds me of the Joyce McKinney 'manacled Mormon' kidnap case (you might not remember that one, I was a schoolkid at the time) that filled the tabloids for a whole summer. In the end, the courts were actually glad she skipped bail back to America dressed as a nun.

Worth googling if you aren't aware of the case - there are some parallels, including the opportunity for newspapers to print risque photos.

Nothing of the sort jon. If what I write goes over your head you cannot blame it on me.


Still with the info available at the time of my post (, and I'm not really interested in the case, so I'm hardly up to date) the only thing one could say for certain that there is lost of IF and WHATS.

This story as sold by the media simply doesn't make sense. If something doesn't make sense it is most likely a lie.
How on Earth that dude convinced the woman to go to some foreign country ? Either he is a professor Moriarty a genius of crime or ( how to explain the he was caught like some inept moron ?) the alleged victim is retarded or there is a lot we - the public - don't know about.

In short because I don't want to waste more time on something that cannot be solved on PF. Something that is a real side issue for me. A distraction.

My point being that Harry would never stared thread like this IF a perpetrator of the crime was a member of a minority group. I know it, you know it and Harry also knows it. Why not fess up then? That you have double standards and taboos. Simple.

Why all this denial? It just redundant and is pointless at this point.


Hmm... so what? I miss the point here? Have you never heard about the cases when people accused of a crime falsely admitted their guilt?

If it makes sense...


'Sold'? It's still breaking news, I-S...

Her model agency said she was invited to a photo shoot. Do keep up with events before you try to comment on them.


He was.

Interesting you're trying to suggest he "falsely admitted his guilt". That one's just bizarre.

Very much so, just as Irony is in his country.

Don`t you see people. Brat Pawel is just one naive and lost Slavic soul in the sea of British darkness.

Yeah, for once I agree with wronka. What is it with the UK that brings out the absolute worst in Polish people? Clearly something is very wrong with British society....

The number of modern slaves in Poland clearly shows that Poles don't need to go to the UK in order to behave in utterly vile ways.

I'll need more support than a group who admits their methodology is just making guesses and assuming that all sex-workers (for exmaple) are living in slavery.

Find some of them there slaves and we'll talk.

Indeed. And this guy claimed he was head of a large company, yet lived in a council flat near Brum with his brother, also a suspect.

Let me know when you're next going to Gdansk.


That does sound familiar.

Remember the case of the group of all paki men that groomed some 1,400 young women to be raped, sold into prostitution, gifted, used as sex slaves, etc? This went on for 10 years and apparently the social services and police knew enough about them to arrest them or at least interfere so as to take the girls into state custody. However, they were too scared to be called racist, anti-paki, etc. so they just let it go... Eventually it was too much and they took down the group.

Every nationality, creed, religion, etc. has it's good and bad apples. Poland, UK, Germany, Syria, Russia, etc. are no different. I've been to 3rd world countries where I've felt totally safe and the people were hospitable on a level unlike any developed country I've been to. Yet in other 3rd world countries where I wouldn't walk outside without carrying something to protect myself. It's the same in Poland - you can walk into one blok and be totally fine and walk into another and a bunch of guys can jump you in the klatka if you appear weak and won't put up much of a fight.

And the conclusions that begin to come out of this story are a little different from those which the OP would perhaps like to draw ...

What day is the slave market?


nothing new there...

As if you would.


I find this case to be bizarre. So, until the trial is over I'll withhold my opinion because as I see it at this stage everything is possible. I'm not going to comment on the case with any categorical statements of the kind you seems to love.

Notice also that although I have said many true things about your ideology I refrain from personal digs or comments that have absolutely no bearings on the issues we are discussing here.


In a way, maybe? (meaning I disagree but have it your way, whatever). The thing is he was/is not a member of a minority group that is to be defended at all cost and their deeds either not reported or condoned.

He is a white European male. A trigged of the hate and aggression by the left. Were he a black non-European Muslim he would be vehemently protected by the left regardless of his deeds. There is no balance here and I want to have it addressed just to redress it even a little bit.


Hey, just like Harry!!! Similarity is striking. lol!

That`s it. We should start online petition for brat Pawel

well go on then, Crow, we will all sign it. This story is bullshite

You know Polish and English, you start it. I`m signing

it's just that you would word it better Crow..:)

Village idiot sees money in the UK and comes up with a money making scheme based on a fantasy story he read about on the internet: the demand for Polish girls by Arabs in Egypt.

guess he hasn't heard of instragram prostitutes that specialize in (Gulf) arab clients....

yes but, you know that English establishment don`t like us Serbians, since we resisted to their grabbing and promptly exposing them. Our open intervention on behalf of brat Pawel can only ruin his defense, I`m afraid

I admit i feel a bit sorry for Brat Pawel.

Sure, with such an educational system in Poland that allows disgusting English teachers to get job in Poland and experiment on Polish children.

Eh, why God don`t give me to rule entire Slavic world for one year only, at least. Bards would sing songs about me for many millennia

Erm, nobody is even slightly suspicious of this model?

She didn't seem all that shaken when talking to the cameras in front of her home a few days ago. Given how she was kidnapped and held hostage for so many days, thinking she would die [as she put it herself], you'd think she might, oh I dunno, not want any cameras in her face for a while as she gets over the traumatic experience?

It has also emerged that she went shoe shopping with the kidnapper [as mentioned earlier] and he bought her gifts every day. They slept in the same bed, even though she first stated that she was tied up for her entire stay there. He obviously seemed to have a lot of trust in her that she wouldn't run away.

Oh and then there is the odd and completely unheard of occurrence of the 'deadly kidnapper' just releasing her when he found out she had a child. Yeah, sure.

Now media everywhere wants to talk to her and her name is becoming more known. Seems to perfect for a model who wants to push her career to the next level. Hmmmm, I wonder and personally, even though I obviously can't say for sure, call BS on this.