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10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND!


isthatu  3 | 1164  
18 Feb 2008 /  #481
No,I stand by my thought,Why should you have anymore "right" to this land than those that have lived on it or worked it for 60 + years. You "Nobles" are 10 a penny around here.And most noble land was stolen in the first place......
celinski  31 | 1258  
18 Feb 2008 /  #483
And most noble land was stolen in the first place......

[quote=isthatu]

From whom are you referring? I believe the eastern Poland land was given by Russia in 1920. Not that they should have to keep there word, mind you.

See Peace of Ryga between Poland/ Russia March 18, 1921
JuliePotocka  5 | 188  
18 Feb 2008 /  #484
isthatu, for real, roflmao! So, the truth finally comes out - you hate Nobility! Do you hate the English Royalty and Nobility, too? I have been nice - really polite. Kid gloves are off.

The Polish Nobility created ahead of its time, what today we call 'Democracy'. Look it up.

You can complain all you like - you aren't going to change anything now or ever, are you.

Actually, the Poles who were in Kresy were given the lands for service, and that's why it was so easy for the Russians to cut the head off the Polish army - when you have the leaders in camps, and then kill them at Katyn, much easier.

And once again, their families and mine get our properties back. Words are meaningless - just pointless banter.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
18 Feb 2008 /  #485
You "Nobles" are 10 a penny around here.And most noble land was stolen in the first place......

So your Queen is a thief, or merely a descendant of thieves?
WAKEUPPOLAND2  - | 35  
19 Feb 2008 /  #487
I have noticed 2 things:

Celinski keeps going on about the forgotten Polish and Julie keeps going on about her lost heritage.

It doesn't matter what the topic is but these 2 ladies keep bringing the topic back to their own agenda.

Maybe that's what we are all doing....?
celinski  31 | 1258  
19 Feb 2008 /  #488
Maybe that's what we are all doing....?

Maybe it's because we have just started to explore "openly"our past. When we take just the magnitude of "Katyn", 22,000 + military being unarmed, shot with hands tied behind their head, where in history has there bee such a war crime on military and yet no one held accountable. This started before the Sept. 1, 1939 date and was a massacre of our military. Then for the people to be told by Communist Poland, do not speak of this, was nothing but cover up. Today 2008 President Putin still tries to change history. On this link we speak of Israelis, but it is more. Polish were to exterminated, not Jewish. We must bring to light all of the victims.
JuliePotocka  5 | 188  
19 Feb 2008 /  #489
AMEN, celinski! THAT is what it's about: ALL the VICTIMS.

wakeup, you kept asking me questions, so I kept answering them; ergo, of course I would try an empathize through my family, dear.

You just bait us, and then pretend like we are crazy Polska ladies, sitting on our dupas, when it was YOU who kept bugging me for answers.

And what you can't comprehend, from my examples, which is crystal clear: ALL Polish families deserve their property back, no matter what their religion. 10,000 isn't that many people, in reality, across Poland.

This entire thread is inflammatory, and meant to fan the fires of Racism and Hate. I feel like we're going backwards in time, instead of forward, yet I hear you saying that is going forward?

This is rubbish.
Crow  154 | 9242  
20 Feb 2008 /  #490
give them money, only. Even enormous amounts of money but, land keep for your children. Plus, say them thanks when they accept money and give them even more money. Then, when they take money put cross on yourself.

Don`t say anything, don`t ask. Just believe to a Serb
matthias  3 | 429  
20 Feb 2008 /  #491
Crow, I like your attitude, however Im not so gracious as you.....

Poles owe nothing to the Jews, if they want they can take it up with Germany and Russia which are responsible for starting this horrible war... then hopefully they will take that money and compensate the Palastinians....

Poles owe nothing to anybody for the results of WW2.......
isthatu  3 | 1164  
20 Feb 2008 /  #492
Commie...

lol,your a commie if you dont arse lick people who happen to have been born into a family....you mate are a grovelling toady and a sheep.

The Polish Nobility created ahead of its time, what today we call 'Democracy'. Look it up.

yes yes,and they invented aeroplanes and penicilin and those nice paper thingys you have at posh dinner parties...yawn....shame Democracy comes from the GREEK, created while Poles were still in mud huts..... oh and polish "democracy" dont make me larf, a few robber barons and the vast majority of the population were slaves to the land,tied to their masters land and unable to leave on pain of death..look it up .

Do you hate the English Royalty and Nobility, too?

Yes,they are chinless wonders,about as usefull as the many polish "nobles" scatered all over the world.

You can complain all you like - you aren't going to change anything now or ever, are you.

Where I suppose you are with yer blue blood...

So your Queen is a thief, or merely a descendant of thieves?

Yes.

Celinski keeps going on about the forgotten Polish and Julie keeps going on about her lost heritage

How long it take you to notice...?

It doesn't matter what the topic is but these 2 ladies keep bringing the topic back to their own agenda.

ie...yawn...it would maybe help if one of them actually knew anything about the subject...see below

This started before the Sept. 1, 1939 date and was a massacre of our military

NO IT DIDNT....FOR GOD SAKE,LEARN YOUR HISTORY!!!!!!

So, the truth finally comes out - you hate Nobility!

LMAO,my ancestors lands make your poxy little claim look like an inner city play park love.....its just I am my own person,I dont live off the past or bang on about the fact that the british empire pretty much started thanks to him...so....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Poles owe nothing to anybody

actually, Darek at work owes me 50p...
Crow  154 | 9242  
20 Feb 2008 /  #493
Poles owe nothing to the Jews,

read Polish Trybina, Warsaw Voice, etc awaken Polish media and you would see that Serbs don`t own nothing to Albanians. As the matter of fact, its quite opposite but, BUT

so, just give money or nothing. I believe that Israelis would take money. [and its not about Israelis. Its about anyone who want something from Poland.]
celinski  31 | 1258  
20 Feb 2008 /  #494
DIDNT....FOR GOD SAKE,LEARN YOUR HISTORY!!!!!!

I SAID IT DID AND GAVE PROOF, now stop your yelling. If you are so down on this subject go to another one. We all have our reasons for coming to this group, who made you judge and jury. Looks to me like you took to many mean pills today. If I may suggest, go make a hot cut of tea, grab some cookies and chill out. LOL
isthatu  3 | 1164  
20 Feb 2008 /  #495
So carol,you still insist that katyn took place before 1st sept 39?? really? Come on,if so,I suggest you stop posting because your looking as daft as you did when you first came here asking for info. Info that was given by many and info you obviously ignore.
matthias  3 | 429  
20 Feb 2008 /  #496
Isthatu wrote:

actually, Darek at work owes me 50p...

lmfao..... : )
JuliePotocka  5 | 188  
20 Feb 2008 /  #497
I love how it took you TWO entire days to come up with that response, isthatu.

You don't know Polish history, so stop pretending to comprehend it. You blew it big time, even though I gave you the elements, you are too funny.

Here's something perhaps more to your tastes: warsawuprising.com/paper/katyn_time.htm

Of course, this probably means nothing to you, either: katyn.org.au
celinski  31 | 1258  
20 Feb 2008 /  #498
katyn took

I did not say "Katyn" I said killing by Stalin's henchmen. Did you get your tea and crumpets yet?
JuliePotocka  5 | 188  
20 Feb 2008 /  #499
I doubt it; he missed the tea ceremony while he was busy twisting our words around.
janekb  - | 57  
29 Feb 2008 /  #500
CROW - Thanks for words of wisdom. It seems that people in danger and oppression are smarter. Hope that things will turn well for you guys. I think you are being sold by Bushy idiot to show that he is not anti-Muslim.

All the best Bratko
JuliePotocka  5 | 188  
1 Mar 2008 /  #501
According to a quick look on the internet, it says that Stalin killed 43 million between 1929 and 1953. Ukrainian bodies. You can see flip through, and see photos...have a strong stomach.

THAT is what Celinski is speaking of; Stalin began killing many people, before WW2, and Katyn. Katyn was just the icing on the cake for the mass murdering creature. He's worse than Dracula was EVER portrayed.

Note: My stepfather died a grisly death last year, from Multiple Myeloma. He took 8 years to die, and he wasted away to 87 pounds. What killed him, caused his cancer? Cleaning up the dirt from us bombing Japan with the A-bombs! He had to move the contaminated dirt. Did he regret it? No; he was proud to serve America in the cleanup.
szmata  - | 23  
5 Mar 2008 /  #502
youtube.com/watch?v=OEp0zq1FTok&feature=related
matthias  3 | 429  
5 Mar 2008 /  #503
Szmata

Whats that video supposed to prove. I could only stand 2 mins of it... so whats the point of posting it.

If its to show how crappy Israeli music is than yeah you proved your point.
JuliePotocka  5 | 188  
6 Mar 2008 /  #504
Mathias, like your 'Darkness' avatar, from Topcow, by Marc Sylvestri. ;>

He's a popular traditional Orthodox Jewish Entertainer, with 6 kids. I don't see any point at all, except that kid near the beginning plays the violin better than me.

Everyone is entitled to their own religion, and ways. I live near one of the biggest melting pots in S. Cali, where Catholics, Christians, Orthodox Jews and Muslims all live peacefully together, with a few Indian Sikhs, and Hindus. People here cover for each other's major religious days, so all is good.

I see no reason why Poland would be any different.
Dice  15 | 452  
6 Mar 2008 /  #505
Julie, this way of thinking may be normal for Polish Americans in the States, but it's impossible to comprehend for Polish living in Poland.

Look at the title of this thread: it implies that Jews are going to take over Poland, and it is a some sort of an emergency. What's funny is that this is happening at the same time when millions of Polish are living and working all over Europe, and they receive help and tolerance wherever they go.

The words "double standard" come to mind, don't they?

Everyone is entitled to their own religion, and ways. I live near one of the biggest melting pots in S. Cali, where Catholics, Christians, Orthodox Jews and Muslims all live peacefully together, with a few Indian Sikhs, and Hindus. People here cover for each other's major religious days, so all is good.

I see no reason why Poland would be any different.

Maybe one day, but I seriously doubt it.
Przemas  1 | 101  
6 Mar 2008 /  #506
The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other, the Jews are asking for compensation, the Poles and immigrating.
Dice  15 | 452  
6 Mar 2008 /  #507
Poles are emigrating not immigrating, or to be exact, they are migrant workers. The point is tolerance as opposed to hatred.
BTW, aren't they Polish Jews?
Przemas  1 | 101  
6 Mar 2008 /  #508
Nope, many of them are decedents of Polish Jews. They are Israel Jews or American Jews. You want tolerance, understand then that us Poles were not in charge of our own Nation back then, there is no need to make us pay obscene amounts of money now for what foreign regimes did back then. That is where tolerance and common sense should arrive on the scene.
JuliePotocka  5 | 188  
6 Mar 2008 /  #509
Once again: the money was SET ASIDE by the UN, back in 1945. Why doesn't anyone understand this? It isn't coming from any Poles.

Yes, Dice; they are POLISH Jews.

Bah, it's like banging my head against a brick wall on this thread.

What color is the sky, in the little world of yours? Answer: Plaid. If not, go watch Tiny Toon Adventures enough, to where it is.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
6 Mar 2008 /  #510
So this topic goes to the end.

Following repeated requests from the federation of Jewish communities in Poland the Interior Ministry announced on Monday that the regulations have been suitably revised, and that Israelis could now also regain their original Polish citizenship.


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