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Here is google translated. I am not sure if it's readable...
Here is google translated. I am not sure if it's readable...
The Office vs Pole, who returns from exile. Evidence of registration, driver's license, car registration nightmare
With relentless wall of bureaucracy must confront each. Our reader Krystian Cybulski returned to Polish after 22 years of living in the United States. He wanted to form an identity card - could not. He wanted to register a car - the same. Get to know the history, you might be entitled "from window to window."
The Polish returned after nearly a quarter of a century spent in the United States. After such a long exile in the country had paid a lot of basic things. - It is normal, but I would never have expected that it will it cost me so much nerve - explains Cybulski. The first one went to battle with a report.
Join and book
Although our source for more than 20 years living overseas, all the while he was registered in Poznan . He thought it would be worth checking out, because I just did not want to live in the capital of Wielkopolska. And here came the first problem. The office informed him that the check out is required Additions book Military Commission. - I had this, so I had to develop - said Cybulski. He was not going to protest. In the end these are the rules.
- So I went to Warsaw, where he has lived, to the appropriate HCR. There, I was directed to research, I had this many adventures. In total, I had to knock on the door of 12-13 different. It used to be attracted to pants and everything was clear. And I had to go from doctor to the clinic and back - says Krystian Cybulski. He noted that the entire procedure lasted a total of two, maybe three weeks. In the end, the reader got in Warsaw military book. Having it under one arm went to Poznan and calmly longer be able to check out. - Well, that HCR had no problems, just a shame I had to waste so much time - irritated.
To get evidence
More Cybulski was trying to keep up with sophisticated ID card. He explained that the office met with something absolutely bizarre. The application for an identity card was required data from the last act of marital status, ie marriage. Did not count, or passport, or birth certificate. What was needed was an act of civil status. - A wedding was taking in the United States , so I had a rustic statement. And to him at birth was registered only "Poland" without the city. And it was a huge problem - explains Cybulski. It did not help that the passport and birth certificate information could be seen as a bull, where he was born. Marriage certificate or identity card will not be.
Cybulski, therefore, have to go to Czestochowa, where his wife is registered and where he registered his marriage certificate. There was amended act in such a way as to include the place of birth. - Fortunately, there was no trouble here - he explains. When he had the marriage certificate, duly completed, there would be no way to get the coveted ID card.
The car and driver's license
This is not the end of the twists and turns. Our caller wanted to register a car. The District Office Mokotów learned that I can not register a car in Warsaw, because his wife is registered in Czestochowa, and he nowhere. - Finally, we registered our car in Czestochowa, did not want to fly again after offices - he says.
This, however, does not end situation of trying to keep the offices. Now comes the license. The Polish returned to the U.S. document on the basis of which he could only drive for 180 days. Then, according to the law must develop Polish counterpart. Interestingly, he could not do it earlier example, after 120 days. He had to wait 180 days, or six months.
- What about the period to earn the right license? I do not drive the car? So can you say that for some time I drove without a license. That's absurd - he says. In the end he needed a theory driving test in Poland and could form their document (the law does not require him to he also practical). However, it did not turned out to be so simple.
The proposal adopted
At the office of the clerk Mokotów Cybulski did not want to accept the application for a license, because it has no permanent address. It had only address. - Arguing with me, my reference was to the relevant provisions. Then I decided to check everything - reports Cybulski.
Reviewed the laws, regulations and appeared with them at the office. Showed the clerk that the provisions referred to only by place of residence, not a check. - That was funny. I show that in this section do not exist, and you refer me to another. Checking a second and there is nothing about the check - says Cybulski. After several skirmishes finally got a driver's license - did not have to report. - Was shocking to me that the officials do not know the law . It really touched me - he says.
Fine, and all in all nothing
In the absence of a check-in clerk visited him, who came to him ... instruct. - They were indeed very nice and did not want to do the problem, but made it clear that without any check I get a fine - he recalls. He adds that all institutions will eventually look at the place of residence, not a check. - Why keep alive a recipe that does nothing and is dead? - Asks rhetorically Krystian Cybulski.
With relentless wall of bureaucracy must confront each. Our reader Krystian Cybulski returned to Polish after 22 years of living in the United States. He wanted to form an identity card - could not. He wanted to register a car - the same. Get to know the history, you might be entitled "from window to window."
The Polish returned after nearly a quarter of a century spent in the United States. After such a long exile in the country had paid a lot of basic things. - It is normal, but I would never have expected that it will it cost me so much nerve - explains Cybulski. The first one went to battle with a report.
Join and book
Although our source for more than 20 years living overseas, all the while he was registered in Poznan . He thought it would be worth checking out, because I just did not want to live in the capital of Wielkopolska. And here came the first problem. The office informed him that the check out is required Additions book Military Commission. - I had this, so I had to develop - said Cybulski. He was not going to protest. In the end these are the rules.
- So I went to Warsaw, where he has lived, to the appropriate HCR. There, I was directed to research, I had this many adventures. In total, I had to knock on the door of 12-13 different. It used to be attracted to pants and everything was clear. And I had to go from doctor to the clinic and back - says Krystian Cybulski. He noted that the entire procedure lasted a total of two, maybe three weeks. In the end, the reader got in Warsaw military book. Having it under one arm went to Poznan and calmly longer be able to check out. - Well, that HCR had no problems, just a shame I had to waste so much time - irritated.
To get evidence
More Cybulski was trying to keep up with sophisticated ID card. He explained that the office met with something absolutely bizarre. The application for an identity card was required data from the last act of marital status, ie marriage. Did not count, or passport, or birth certificate. What was needed was an act of civil status. - A wedding was taking in the United States , so I had a rustic statement. And to him at birth was registered only "Poland" without the city. And it was a huge problem - explains Cybulski. It did not help that the passport and birth certificate information could be seen as a bull, where he was born. Marriage certificate or identity card will not be.
Cybulski, therefore, have to go to Czestochowa, where his wife is registered and where he registered his marriage certificate. There was amended act in such a way as to include the place of birth. - Fortunately, there was no trouble here - he explains. When he had the marriage certificate, duly completed, there would be no way to get the coveted ID card.
The car and driver's license
This is not the end of the twists and turns. Our caller wanted to register a car. The District Office Mokotów learned that I can not register a car in Warsaw, because his wife is registered in Czestochowa, and he nowhere. - Finally, we registered our car in Czestochowa, did not want to fly again after offices - he says.
This, however, does not end situation of trying to keep the offices. Now comes the license. The Polish returned to the U.S. document on the basis of which he could only drive for 180 days. Then, according to the law must develop Polish counterpart. Interestingly, he could not do it earlier example, after 120 days. He had to wait 180 days, or six months.
- What about the period to earn the right license? I do not drive the car? So can you say that for some time I drove without a license. That's absurd - he says. In the end he needed a theory driving test in Poland and could form their document (the law does not require him to he also practical). However, it did not turned out to be so simple.
The proposal adopted
At the office of the clerk Mokotów Cybulski did not want to accept the application for a license, because it has no permanent address. It had only address. - Arguing with me, my reference was to the relevant provisions. Then I decided to check everything - reports Cybulski.
Reviewed the laws, regulations and appeared with them at the office. Showed the clerk that the provisions referred to only by place of residence, not a check. - That was funny. I show that in this section do not exist, and you refer me to another. Checking a second and there is nothing about the check - says Cybulski. After several skirmishes finally got a driver's license - did not have to report. - Was shocking to me that the officials do not know the law . It really touched me - he says.
Fine, and all in all nothing
In the absence of a check-in clerk visited him, who came to him ... instruct. - They were indeed very nice and did not want to do the problem, but made it clear that without any check I get a fine - he recalls. He adds that all institutions will eventually look at the place of residence, not a check. - Why keep alive a recipe that does nothing and is dead? - Asks rhetorically Krystian Cybulski.