Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet?

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I guess it's the same as telling someone that the Russians were responsible for Katyn when you were studying Polish history...

No, because all serious sources agreed it was the USSR. Only the USSR and those governments coerced into echoing the Soviet position pretended to believe otherwise.

Here, no serious source can point to any compelling evidence that it was anything beyond an unfortunate accident....

Erm.... less than a year....

unian.info/world/10077158-smolensk-crash-report-disaster-result-of-mid-air-blasts.html

...possibly caused by the Polish pilot who ignored the tower when they told him about the bad weather ahead.
The unanswered question seem to be if the pilot was ordered to proceed anyway by somebody on the plane, which he did fearing that he would be fired if he refused and followed as advised by the Russians. Also, a total lack of motive. What would the Russians gain? As sick as it was, their gain from Katyn was clear.

Putin did not take kindly to Lech Kaczynski's 'intervention' in Georgia

foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/08/the-ghosts-of-smolensk-poland-kaczynski-russia

and sought his revenge. His ally Tusk was very pleased to collude once it was pointed out that Komorowski of PO would replace Kaczynski of PiS as president.

Except that Kaczyński was deeply unpopular in Poland at the time and it was generally agreed there was no way he would be re-elected... why take such a risk to get rid of a politician who was on his way out anyway...

Also... whoever planned that trip should be put in jail (if they weren't on the plane) it was completely reckless and unforgiveable that they had so many top military figures on one single plane. Another reason for the Russia blaming is to distract attention away from criminal neglect of basic security protocol.

It was also an irresistable opportunity to bump off so much of the Polish elite in one fell swoop.....

Please explain how a single birch tree can a cause a large aeroplane to disintegrate into a million pieces over an area of a square mile....

and why the Russians are still hanging on to the black boxes, and why the Polish authorities handed over the complete investigation of the crash to Russia.

We know you're missing the mother country, and instead have to suffer living amongst all those Pakistanis. But do keep up. Most people in Poland with half a brain dropped the inferiority complex and "We're Polish and condemned" self loathing rhetoric when 1. Kisczak signed on the dotted line ending totalitarian rule, 2. When Poland joined NATO and then acceded to the EU.

But you're not in Poland, are you?
And, by the way, the Pakistanis were living in your area first. And their cuisine and restaurants are way better than anything Polish:) YOU are the immigrant (or your parents were).

So were the cockroaches.

Please explain why a commission with unlimited resources couldn't find any evidence in however long they had (and why J Kaczński himself has distanced himself from those pushing the 'Russia didi it!' idea)

There were no Pakistanis around when I was born. In fact there was a flood of Poles after WWII before the Paki invasion.

Does it really matter who were there first? I think that just overaction to something dumb leftist like to say to shame people and show off their own alleged brilliance. A proper answer to that would be 꺼져!

If the Paki invasion is so good that it got all the blessings from the Brits, why did the Brits resist Germany with all the destruction and death? I mean, what could possibly Germans do to the Brits - if they occupied them as they did France - that would be worse than the Islamic invasion? London would get a German mayor? I would take that any time over that moron London has now.

Not the Berlin mayor...*yuck*

So..... that makes up for Rotherham? (and all othe other cases coming to light?)

I am not going to debate about some criminal paedophiles or perverts, except to state the obvious that deviant human behaviour patterns occur independent of race. And I'm sorry for you if you have an axe to grind about that.

I'm sorry that you don't have an axe to grind about religious-racial profiling of young victims for sexual abuse... a sure sign of the fall of a civilization is unwillingness to protect young women.

I can kind of imagine what went on...

The men on board the plane were mad at the women for taking too long to get ready making everyone late. They tried to make up for lost time so as not to upset the Czar and hauled ass. As they approached they hit thick fog. Since they were already in the area they said **** it just land were already late asf and got sloppy. It didn't help that the pilot was under pressure and his navigator didn't speak fluent Russian


Than why are the majority of grooming gangs comprised of Muslim men? Why are Muslims overwhelming the ones who commit terrorism?Why are blacks responsible for the majority of violent crime in the US despite being 14% of the population. Yet somehow e Asians, Indians, and Europeans aren't committing murders, rape and terror en masse. Sure you can't deny that certain races disproportionately commit more violent crimes than others when all the facts and stats show prove it

Because the victims are dim enough to believe in the bling? Their parents should be arrested along with the perverts, for criminal neglect.

I'm not saying that the victims should be blamed, but the parents deffos should. My father was largely absent, but he did come up with the old chesnut "Never, on any account, accept sweets from strangers."

One memorable line, and I automatically followed his instructions. I realise this is a different age, but when my teenager put herself in danger I was right there to explain to her why she was out of order.

....and later you turned her into Incredible Hulk to defend herself from five Muslim m-f***rs who would like to have sex with her without asking. To make sure she wins, you gave her a gun.

Good daddy.

So it looks like there's no stopping of yellow vests in France and they won't stop themselves until Macron resigns.

And just 2 months ago that boy wanted to militarily challenge the US...

youtu.be/KGXPLFj4ris

No, he wanted an EU army to deal with unhappy French citizens once police join them...

It is already drizzling out....the numbers get lower from day to day...

No wonder, between them are marching left extremists side by side with right wing nutters...with no real leadership or real goals...it's just a diffuse blob of general dissatisfaction with life.

50 000 people has demonstrated this Saturday according to French Interior Minister. That's a substantial number for a continuous riots. Over 2500 people were arrested since the beginning. Police used not only a tear gas and rubber bullets but also a stunt grenades against their own citizens.

thelocal.fr/20181214/french-police-blasted-for-maiming-yellow-vests-with-tear-gas-and-rubber-bullets
edition.cnn.com/2019/01/05/europe/france-protests/index.html

And the EU sponsored police riot car was used to pacify them. A hint about the future of the totalitarian state of the EU?

cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/121000/620x/yellow-vests-747052.jpg


The EU army would be an useful tools for eurocrats to deal with citizens in all EU countries, especially the "stubborn ones" in Visegrad group.

And for what exactly? I still can't believe that it is all about a higher tax for that toxic diesel fuel to support the environment! *palm face*


What do you mean with "EU sponsored"? With a german driver perhaps? :):):)

You think that is a rough treatment? Ha ha ha. If these people would be demonstrating the same way here in the US as they do in Paris and elsewhere, the National Guard would've taken care of them. The EU a totalitarian state? You really have no idea. Silly talk from the Brexit crowd.

It's not, I spoke with a French colleague who mentioned a bunch of stuff, it's not just the fuel tax (which would have cost many working people about 10$ a day while the worst abusers wouldn't be charged at all) but also a host of other taxes, I saw one diagram that showed a variety of different taxes that have increased under Macron (average 20% in one year) as well as retirement ages and pensions.

In addition, there's a widespread and generally correct view that the French government despises the rural working class and ignores their concerns on a whole host of issues.

Cause it's not. Those people knows that something is not quite right. They don't know what that is [yet] but they know something is fishy.

Those who protest are taxpayers and they are being ripped off.

We're talking about France so obviously nobody will say that the main fault lies in a Socialism System which guarantees high taxes by default. Like Margaret Thatcher said the problem with socialists is that "they always run out of other people's money

So those protesters are kind of clueless but their anger and their desperation is real. And that's enough to make major changes in France's politics.

....and that Frenchies like to protest! Theirs is a history of upheavals... ;)

Alot of these protestors would prefer socialist Melenchon and/or national socialist LePen to Macron...if that comes true THEN you will see what a real socialist system is!

They will wish for Macron to be back...

Unfortunately, I do have idea. The whole concept of the EU is based on works of Altiero Spinelli an Italian communist who envisioned the EU as a leftist federation with no independent states.