Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet?

Will they Johnny? The land rents here as well as other factors mean that foreigners will not be flooding Poland any time soon, pretty though it be. The wealthy will stick to their Alpine hillside or Barcelona beachside - not Gorzow Wielkapolska - unless they are Polish retirees, like Dolno for example. Then I can see the attraction.

But foreigners, in this tedious environment for the rich, where they can't act it large? Don't think so somehow.

Doug they already are. There's thousands of retirees that have moved to Poland from w Europe especially France. Hell you even moved to Poland from the west. There's also a lot of corporate types coming from France, Italy, Portugal, etc especially the banking sector for some reason. This trend is only going to pick up not just in Poland but the other v4 countries

But flooding? No not quite especially compared to.the Ukrainians. However there is more tourists from the west than ever before. Wroclaw got 5 mil tourists last year. Everyday there's dozens tour groups full of seniors from Germany and France and hotels are full of.them. An increasing number of those w European tourists see Poland for the basically crime free homogenously European wonderland where there's no barriers in the markets to prevent spontaneous cultural enrichment and they decide get a vacation home or to move altogether.

And Poland is certainly not an environment for the rich. You compare prices of real estate and common non imported consumer goods in Warsaw to Paris London and now even Berlin and it's far cheaper let alone compared to a place like Zurich/Basel/Geneva or Monaco or Lake Como.

Certainly it helps to be wealthy like any country. But a middle class person coming from the west with a bit of savings will have a far better life in Poland. Even for younger people who have a higher education and in demand skills they can get a good job in Poland.

I think you are confusing the elites with the wealthy.
There are many more wealthy then there are elites.


I didn't mean every single one of them but many of them.
And by wealthy I mean the ones that can financially afford it without cramping their budget or life style.
You could be right Doug as I was only posting my insighted opinion.
I think I was wrong once last year too.
Poland is the last European ethnic wilderness of the E.U.

No its not. Lithuania is. All hail the baltics.

"Doug they already are. There's thousands of retirees that have moved to Poland from w Europe especially France. Hell you even moved to Poland from the west. There's also a lot of corporate types coming from France, Italy, Portugal, etc especially the banking sector for some reason. This trend is only going to pick up not just in Poland but the other v4 countries"

I don't want anything to do with corporate types and fake people or people who flaunt money and have nothing to offer to anyone besides their suit and no personality except one bought and sold on wall street.

That would be a very good standard. Roman Dmowski was one of the fathers of Polish Independence after WWI. He was well educated, a polyglot, and his works were written in a very logical manner. In my opinion he should be valued more than Pilsudski.

Interesting words, because many of his followers don't actually accept everything Polish, and they certainly don't accept the bad points in Polish history.

The other v4 countries are faring well too. If I were a parent who had a kid in a grade school where speakers of a European language are a tiny minority and Arabic the majority I'd certainly be moving too. That's the situation countless parents are finding themselves in all over Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, etc. I certainly wouldn't want to live next to people who require courses and fliers telling them it's not okay to sexually assault women either and I'm sure those with young daughters are concerned about that too especially with the thousands of sexually assaults occurring every year. The worst thing is that if you kill or maim a rapist you'll be one in trouble even though the police have a totally inadequate response and even when they're caught the sentence they receive is a joke - one year, two years for a rape no double digit sentences handed down. Many of them even get to stay and aren't deported.

More and more Europeans are aware of these facts and left or right no one wants to see their wife or daughter raped or walk around in a city where now soldiers always have their finger on the trigger and there's concrete barriers to prevent cultural enrichment. If they can't afford to move to an ever increasingly expensive safe mostly white area they'll look for other options. This is especially true for seniors who don't want to deal with this bs in their golden years and are frustrated seeing what has happened with their native home.

Your constant talking about rape was boring but now it is getting pretty creepy.

Ask one of the women that have been raped by one/or more of these filthy pigs and they will tell you that it is beyond creepy.

Here in America a woman would have every right to pull out their handgun and blow the perps melon off his shoulders.
To bad the women in Europe don't have that same freedom for self defense.

Yes I understand the issue - I read the reports about it. But this thread is about the Independence Day March - if anyone could be bothered to go back through it I reckon Dirk has mentioned rapes 200 times.

Once third worlders stop raping thousands upon thousands of European women every year I won't talk about it. Till they stop, I will bring it up as it is something that deserves to have awareness.

It's quite sad you'd want silence discussion about something awful that has affected and will continue to affect thousands of women and their families. Now that is being creepy.... Go tell the victims that you don't.want attention brought to the issue and to what they suffered. And they're the lucky ones atleast they escaped without being beheaded unlike the two Scandinavian girls who's necks were enriched by Moroccans.

Part of the independence day March this year and every year since the migrant crisis is Polish women giving speeches and hoisting banners I.e. Rapefugees not welcome explaining they don't want that **** in Poland

This was a particularly powerful speech by a Polish woman
youtu.be/KsnaYeUdri4

on the other hand, the current government probably gave this pervert a visa... (I wonder if he ever appeared on this forum?)

tvnwarszawa.tvn24.pl/informacje,news,trzy-lata-wiezienia-za-probe-gwaltu-sad-skazal-dostawce-jedzenia,282085.html

I dont want to silence discussion - i just find your obsession with it more and more disturbing. Its in almost every post and i was also surprised about you linking to the beheading video.

I dont know what your strike was about but i wonder what kind of websites you were visiting in the meantime

of course it's disturbing but his weird obsession with it makes it harder to discuss (I sometimes wonder if he's on the payroll of someone trying to stop discussions related to failed integration in western europe)

Dmowski though was also a known and self-confessed anti-Semite, whose "Kwestia Zydowska" I read and found most disturbing! Compare kindly with Werner Sombart's "The Secret of the Jew's Success" and then get back to me!

I'll debate ya anytime, any place.

Books like Jews - Why are they rich?,Secrets of the Talmud, Secret of Jewish success etc are some of the most popular books in China. In fact Chinese bookstores have

Now lyzko is that racist, antisemitic? On one hand Jews don't like being considered as disproportionately holding wealth but on the other hand they don't mind writing/editing books about the secrets of Jewish wealth. On one hand they don't like the stereotype that they hold power, on the other they flaunt organizations like Aipac, adl, etc reach and clout internationally. They don't want to be considered as running media, yet no problem when a Jewish outlet prints an article titled do Jews control Hollywood? You bet! But God forbid marlin brando or Mel Gibson repeat that...

So what is it? Or is it kind like the situation with blacks calling each other n**gers but you can't if you're not black?


I didn't participate in any strike.... Also it is good for people especially the Muslim apologists and liberals to see Muslims acting out passages of the Koran on video, in this case striking at the kuffars necks. Seeing as a significant chunk of Muslims including those in Europe want sharia law, which is based on a strict interpretation of the Koran, these is what awaits more Europeans if they keep coddling them and letting them overtake the continent demographically.

Stefan Molyneux, a philosopher in Poland for 100th anniversary of Polish independence

youtu.be/dMZR8jXGTm8

A philosopher? Try "Youtuber" at best.

It's sad to see such people promoting Poland in this way, because a meeting of village idiots once a year does not equal Poland.

Dirk, the whole point is that saying, for ex. Jews are natural-born business genii, Germans are all by nature bellicose and arrogant, Italians simply lean toward Mafia-style behavior etc., IS INDEED racist and unhelpful. Such sentiments are convenient pegs on which to hang our experiences and confirm fallacies which are both unfair as well as often just plain untrue!

Then, I am sure you have a very simple and compelling explanation why the Fed Board of Directors is mostly Jewish. And so were the chairmen. Plus Janet. That in a country, the US, where the Jews are 3% of the population.

Tradition...and most importantly the networks stemming from that old tradition...nothing genetic.

5 board members

One German, one Latino, one from kansas, one preppy guy from washington, one from Utah so maybe a mormon.

Yes - the takeover of global finance is well underway

Jews were overrepresented in areas, once again, in which it was felt that a shortage area existed, furthermore, practices such as money-changing, typically were off limits to gentiles as expressly forbidden by the Church:-)

The explanation is simpler than merely, "Jews are better at business" or some such malarky.

They're not, BUT due to a long history of engaging in finance, trade, etc which was for thousands of years guided by their own survival guide in foreign lands, it certainly isn't a stretch to say engaging business especially finance is deeply rooted in the Jewish community.


Fed, 4/5 of the largest media conglomerates, half the Supreme Court, dozens of senators and Congressman with dual us Israeli citizenship, most execs of large banks, majority of Hollywood, etc etc despite being a tiny.fraction of the US population... Whether that's racist or not doesn't change the fact that it's true that Jews are overrepresented in media, government and finance.. You'd expect more Latinos and blacks or even Poles to occupy these positions since they make up an exponentially larger chunk of the population yet that's not the case.


No, they went into trades influenced by their religious teachings and environment namely their own community. There's a big demand for welders and truckers yet I don't see Jews overrepresented in the welding or trucking profession. That's becayse the Talmud considers that goy jobs which Jews shouldn't take.

the Gerries are unabashed when it comes to NordStreams - they just brush it off with a statement that is a private enterprise - they have very peculiar notion of what friendship or at least partnership means

Dirk, you're certainly correct in saying that sadly through centuries of being channeled into areas involving trade compared with other industries, Jews might well have become rather at home in finagling, bargaining, negotiating, if for no other reason, sheer survival!

Jews didn't wake up one fine morning in May, declaring, "Let's all become usurers!". However, if pawnbroker was the only job available (cattle dealing and horse trading probably already taken), perhaps the local Jew did have to charge significantly higher interest rates, rather like a loan shark, since this was their sole livelihood and in the end, who wants to be constantly underbid?

It's even more peculiar that you see nothing wrong with all the insults towards Germany coming from PiS. Had they not been abusing Germany non-stop for 3 years, perhaps they might have more diplomatic power when it comes to Nord Stream.

interesting viewpoint - I personally noticed quite the opposite phenomenon that Germany does everything to weaken denigrate and disavow PiS government

It's the other way around....Germany and Poland under Tusk had been very close...it was PiS which already led an election campaing with a very strong anti-german smell...anti-russian AND anti-german that is...

Germany didn't change, Poland did!

It was worse. They said nothing about Germany during the campaign, then as soon as they won, they started with this very obvious anti-German campaign. Meanwhile, Kaczyński also ordered PiS to tone down the rhetoric towards Russia. It's all rather strange, though makes perfect sense when you consider their electorate.