Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet?

How interesting. I suppose you have no problem with Korwin-Mikke visiting Crimea, too?

belsat.eu/en/news/poland-s-foreign-ministry-criticises-mep-korwin-mikke-for-visiting-occupied-crimea

Always funny to see how the nationalists betray themselves as pro-Russia.

That's true. He is popular with the youngest generation though.
I believe he will be more predictable under a conduct of National Movement and instead of making controversies will focus on a common goal which is gaining independence from the EU for Poland.

He is also an avid pro-capitalist and against bureaucracy which is great.

He's a self-described royalist who doesn't think women should have the right to vote, he's only popular with younger voters as a protest candidate...

How does that mesh with RN's view that the economy should be tightly controlled by the government?

Well, he is against democracy in general. A famous quote from Stanislaw Michalkiewicz: "democracy is a system in which two hobos have twice as much voting power as a professor of a university".

Let's not forget that the democracy in Ancient Greece and Roman Republic worked only because the elites were ruling the country.


Actually, The National Movement's credo is: Classical heritage, Christian civilization, independent nation-state, ordered liberty

Which you can find on one of the movement, Krzysztof Bosak's, board:

twitter.com/krzysztofbosak?lang=en

That's not answering my question. RN believe in a heavily interventionist economic policy, while Korwinists believe in a completely deregulated economy.

Michalkiewicz is a doctriner along Korwin-Mikke - and Polish intelectual elites are as corrupt as it gets

Nope. It's the domain of the left to build a heavily interventionist policy. The whole EU economic policy is build upon interventionism starting with subventions for farmers up to regulating the terms of employment for a delegated workers.

And lets not forget that in the EU a snail was proclaimed to be a fish (so Frenchmen can receive subsidies) and carrot is officially a fruit in the EU :-)

If you're looking for a ridiculous interventionist bureaucracy, look no further than to Brussels.


A doctriner is a French word and it means "to educate"

So you're admitting that RN have a hard left economic policy, then? Interesting, interesting.

Either way, both of them are polling about 2% at the minute, so they hardly represent anything worthwhile.

No, that's not what I said. You're just putting your own words into my mouth. Is that really the only way you can win a dispute? :-)

Krzysztof Bosak, a vice-president of National Movement has capitalist views but he is also a realist and he knows that money has nationality.


Do I have to remind you that Korwin alone has already placed a few representatives into EU parliament in the last elections? And now they are combining forces which is good.

That sounds like a childish way of saying that Jewish people control money.


Yes, but Korwin was polling at 5-7% before the last European elections. Now he's at 2% and RN are nowhere.

They're only combining forces because Korwin's latest party has even less support than before, and he's desperate to get back into the European Parliament so he can continue to line his pockets. Neither of them would have a chance by themselves.

That's what Hungary's Orban is saying in essence, look at his (not so) veiled attacks on George Soros.

I don't know what is the English counterpart of Polish doktryner - doktryner in Polish means someone stirctly following a doctrine

"Party hack" in English, "linientreuer Staatsdiener" in German:-)

I doubt doktryner translates into these, Lyzko

No translation of such phrases is ever literal, gumishu.

an online translator (but not google translate) insisted that the English counterpart of doktryner is doctrinaire - but I have no idea if it is to be trusted

Not in this case! "Doctrinaire" is an adjective, never a proper noun.

I see - I trust your word on it :)

Fine, gumi, as well you should:-)

And you're putting your own thoughts into my mouth again. I had restrictions on Chinese corporations controlled by the government to acquire key tech companies in the US on my mind, but you obviously know better than me what I think...


And what that doctrine would be? Is is clear to me that he is a devoted Roman Catholic, anti communist and an avid capitalism supporter. If that's what you mean by his 'doctrine' then I fully support it.


Lyzko, Soros doesn't need any 'veiled attacks' but a full frontal resistance. Everything this man represents goes against traditional European and Christian values.

No longer. The defining feature of the modern age is that capital has no nationality and moves very quickly and national governments can do nothing to keep it withing any given territory... (they can do things that keep it out but nothing that keeps it in).

At is most demented (see the UK) almost all government activity is geared toward luring and tempting capital to stay in one place.

Yet he's willing to enter into a coalition with a man who openly supports Russia and Putin, which as everyone knows is run by those that were around in the 1980's KGB.

Makes no sense at all, but then again, nationalists were never known for their ability to think logically.

We were talking about Stanislaw Michalkiewicz in this case. Pay attention to the subject of a discussion.

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail


Don't be naive my friend. Why do you think the restrictions were placed on Russian's banks and big oil and gas companies in 2014? Why do you think US is protecting their IT industry against Chinese hostile takeover (Qualcomm case)?

Or even an old case of Vodafone attempt to takeover a German IT group (both EU members):

eurofound.europa.eu/fr/publications/article/1999/vodafones-hostile-takeover-bid-for-mannesmann-highlights-debate-on-the-german-capitalist-model

Those who makes decisions knows that money has indeed a nationality.

Those of us who know Poland know that only trusted people entered law studies in the PRL. I

Soros though is scarcely representative of ALL Jews!! That would be like judging every Pole by the standards of a Roman Dmowski, every Frenchman next to Drumont, Petain or Laval....every German by the gutter standards of Hitler etc.

Korwin has got to be the funniest MEP Poland ever had. I loved the leftists reactions when he called migrants human garbage that doesn't want to work. And sig heiled in parliament. Priceless lololol

Statement about Muslim immigration - watch the feminazi crazy eyes and sighs lol

youtu.be/3YTe5YNHBQA

Thing is, everything he said in the video above is true.

Migrants want to escape countries with low benefits to places like Germany where the average migrant receives 1200 eu a month not counting other expenses like education and medicine, America built itself up because there were no handouts at Ellis Island, and Europe is being flooded with human garbage that does not want to work as evidenced by the 75% unemployment rate for 5+ years in Germany (99% for asylum seekers) as an example.

I thought Merkel said the reason she wanted these migrants was to "build up Germany's work force" because of the declining birth rate in Germany.

No wonder the pro immigration members on this form who promoted "cultural enrichment" here have gone silent.
Poland was the only country, with a brain, in the E.U. to tell her to pound sand making her declare that she would punish Poland with large fines for opting out of her non sense.

Yup, the supposed (witch) doctors and (mud hut) engineers that were suppose to fill the labor shortage and make Germany great again. Not only did it do nothing to address the labor shortage, the tax paying Germans now have more of their money going to provide for people who aren't even citizens and pay nothing into the system. Germany spends around 25 bil a year providing for migrants - more than it spends on education. By 2020 it will have spent 100 bil. That money could've given every homeless German citizen a nice home.

The EU at Merkels behest did indeed try to fine Poland 2 bil euro for not taking migrants. Of course since several other countries have also since refused or made plans to cull their existing migrant population or basically force them to work and assimilate, their plans failed. Now even in Germany people are fed up with Merkels cultural suicide which is why afd rose up in popularity so much and her party is at a low.

Well you can't say we didn't try to tell the Commie Socialists on this forum, in our relentless debates, who promoted this over and over again can you.

I still hail Poland for standing up to Merkel.
And remember when I said that Poland will become the oasis of the E.U. when the Muzzi's start taking over the other governments in the E.U. ?

The wealthy will be moving out in droves to live in Poland bringing with them their wealth to build Poland into a utopia.