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GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE!


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11927  
17 Oct 2008 /  #181
What an argument...his real family name was Kopperlingk, he latinized his name later to Kopernikus as it was custom at that time...the Poles made it to Kopernik...

So who cares if you can find Koperniks in Poland?

He several times signed as his name Kopperlingk, possibly because his father's family business in the city of Thorn/Torun was copper and therefore the Low German Kopper (High German Kupfer) and the -lingk ending indicated someone who dabbled in copper. It has been the custom of German people to take on the occupations or the town names as last names.

columbus  - | 5  
17 Oct 2008 /  #182
You repeat your arguments to have last word in discussion. You don't change sources. Actualy we have seen different arguments about name. You give quotation form no where.

I can do such quotation

Kopernik regarded himself Polish[

Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11927  
17 Oct 2008 /  #183
Well...since you steadily ignore them I have to hammer them into you.
You ignore his german family, his german mother, his german mother tongue, even that he described himself as german and signed his manuscripts that way.

The only argument going for you (or so you think) is his political allegiance as he supported Poland against the Teutonic Order...but sorry...that doesn't make him polish!

So yes, it seems I have to repeat the facts again and again...

economicexpert.com/a/Copernicus:nationality.htm

An objective gathering of known facts about this discussion, the best and most comprehensive source so far.

I especially like the conclusion:

One can say summarizing, that Copernicus' working language was Latin, his mother tongue was German, his sovereign was Polish and his father tongue was probably Polish. He is undisputedly a Central-European.

I'm all for sharing him, but I won't stand by idle when Poles claims him solely for themselves!
columbus  - | 5  
17 Oct 2008 /  #184
If we look on this issue form your prespective. You should be ready for debates about famous "Germans" with "Polish" roots.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11927  
17 Oct 2008 /  #185
You should be ready for debates about famous "Germans" with "Polish" roots.

Let me guess...Podolski! :):):)
southern  73 | 7059  
17 Oct 2008 /  #186
Kopernik was black.
lesser  4 | 1311  
17 Oct 2008 /  #187
She was not black!
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
24 Oct 2008 /  #188
GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)!!!

It's OK...Here's what we do:



JOHANN SEBASTIEN BACHOWSKI
Ozi Dan  26 | 566  
6 Nov 2008 /  #189
So by the logic of some Poles, Auschwitz must be Polish and not at all German because it was 'born' in Poland to German 'parents', described itself as German and was used against some Germans thoughout its life.

Personally I'd call Copernicus Prussian and Auschwitz Nazi but that's just me.

You're obsessed - but that's just me. Haven't seen you in ages Harry -good to see you back!
Crow  154 | 9609  
6 Nov 2008 /  #190
GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)!!! OUTRAGE!!!

eh, if it is just Kopernik

If Germany return all what took from Slavs, there won`t be Germany.... ah, yes... if its just Germany that took something from Slavs...
Harry  
6 Nov 2008 /  #191
How about Serbia returns everything it took from the Neanderthals? Oh, sorry, my mistake: Serbs are Neanderthals.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
6 Nov 2008 /  #192
WHO THE F*** CARES??????

You Europeans are so laughable it isn't even funny.
southern  73 | 7059  
6 Nov 2008 /  #193
You Europeans are so laughable

True.No black president in Europe.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
6 Nov 2008 /  #194
You Europeans are so laughable it isn't even funny.

How many years has been since your country let those lovely coloured folk ride on the bus at the front? Weren't mixed raced marriages illegal? Think before you throw stones!

By the way "hatefulbunch of what - Bananas?
Harry  
6 Nov 2008 /  #195
How many years has been since your country let those lovely coloured folk ride on the bus at the front?

HB wouldn't know anything about that, he's been short bus material since birth.

Weren't mixed raced marriages illegal?

Those laws were enforced in the USA until 1967 and still existed until 2000.
Crow  154 | 9609  
6 Nov 2008 /  #196
i had horrible day on the job, realy horrible... it was in case with some delivery... 10 tons of expensive stuff (realy expensive).... others mistaken but, i had to fix it.... so i fixed it... it was heart attack situation.... now is fine :)

and now, instead of my doze of relaxation here, what i get... i get Harry

what to tell to Harry.... let`s bla bla a little...

How about Serbia returns everything it took from the Neanderthals? Oh, sorry, my mistake: Serbs are Neanderthals.

what`s wrong with Neanderthals? They are first known Whites... is it maybe problem for you?
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
6 Nov 2008 /  #197
OMG I cannot believe you Euros!! Has their been racial tensions in the US???? In the past???? YES! Do people react the same as the people on this forum, for the most part? NO.

I certainly hope you guys do not represent Europeans because if you do, it's a real shame!
Even if you don't, it's still a shame because some who might not know better would read this craziness and think you do.

Most people in the US don't obsess on every little thing, every minute difference. True, there are bigots in the US. But not this extreme.

You Euros are way too extreme about this sort of thing. Seriously. Get over yourselves!
Prince  15 | 590  
6 Nov 2008 /  #198
HatefulBunch397

Somebody tries to unify Europeanens on this forum ? :)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11927  
6 Nov 2008 /  #199
what`s wrong with Neanderthals? They are first known Whites... is it maybe problem for you?

...from Neander Thal in Germany! :)
Or else they would be called "Neanderthalskies" :):):)
Daisy  3 | 1211  
6 Nov 2008 /  #200
i had horrible day on the job, realy horrible... it was in case with some delivery

You probably upset them, so now they're getting revenge

from Neander Thal in Germany! :)

aah, so that's what's wrong......they're Germanized
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
6 Nov 2008 /  #201
BB is presenting typical Germanic approach to this issue: "He was German ! Didn't even know Polish ! etc." and next "maybe we could share him ?". If the guy really was German, be sure that they wouldn't like to share with us even his shi*ted pants.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11927  
6 Nov 2008 /  #202
and next "maybe we could share him ?"

Well...he WAS german and I try to compromise with you and even want to share him for the sake of peace AND to acknowledge the huge part of overlapping of our both cultures and between our people over the centuries.

The polish approach is to claim him totally even as he wasn't polish!

Sorry...all my fault! :(
Prince  15 | 590  
6 Nov 2008 /  #205
FRAU MERKELOWSKA

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel

"Angela Merkel was born as Angela Dorothea Kasner in Hamburg, as the daughter of Horst Kasner (b. 6 August 1926 in Berlin-Pankow), a Lutheran pastor and his wife, Herlind (b. 8 July 1928 in Elbing as Herlind Jentzsch), a teacher of English and Latin. Her mother is a member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany. Her grandparents on her mother's side lived in Elbing in East Prussia; one of them had Polish origin. She has a brother, Marcus (born 7 July 1957), and a sister, Irene (b. 19 August 1964)."
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11927  
6 Nov 2008 /  #206
You wanna claim her too??? :):):)

Wouldn't it be cool? Poland AND Germany ruled by Merkelski???
southern  73 | 7059  
6 Nov 2008 /  #207
one of them had Polish origin

Scratch a German and you will find a Pole.
Prince  15 | 590  
6 Nov 2008 /  #208
You wanna claim her too??? :):):)

I don't want her. She is German.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11927  
6 Nov 2008 /  #209
Scratch a German and you will find a Pole.

So...you mean the genocidal mass murderer of the last century where deep down true Poles?

don't want her. She is German.

How come you are not claiming her?
Piorun  - | 655  
6 Nov 2008 /  #210
I try to compromise with you and even want to share him for the sake of peace

In his book “De revolutionibus” his signature is in Latin. Next to his name is inscription of “Torinensis” meaning (Toruńczyk) from Toruń. This is how he described himself and how he has signed his name on all official documents. In his time the nationality was not as important as being a subject of a sovereign in his case a King of Poland where he had proved is loyalty by serving as a defender of Olsztyn Castle against Teutonic Knights. Besides when Prussians have erected a monument in his honor in 1853 the Latin inscription states the following “Nicolaus Copernicus Thorunensis, Terrae motor, Solis Caelique stator" keyword there is “Thorunesis” not “German” just like he used to describe himself. So let’s make it a Toruńczyk, how’s this for compromise BB.

Wouldn't it be cool? Poland AND Germany ruled by Merkelski???

Now you are asking for too much.

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