You don`t understand. Normally, people would flock to UK or Germany, indeed. Situation in Poland and Serbia improves but, its rather slow process. But, what affecting UK`s and German situation is trend, to say fact, that UK and Germany aren`t quite normal anymore. What was normal yesterday, today isn`t. See, without USA support they are merely just ordinary countries. Really. Nothing special. Plus, they with their aggressive policy finally attracted Russia`s attention and Russia would urinate them. Then, little would remain interesting for Poles and Serbs there.
Will eight million Polish people flock to the UK now that we are going for a hard Brexit?
When you say without USA support, do you mean military support Crow or economic?? Or both?
Situation in Poland and Serbia improves but, its rather slow process.
It is slow and it is not the economic development only that matters. Besides, you shouldn't think that the present European immigration policy continues for ever. The next move which is likely to be a victory of Madame Le Pen in France could change things dramatically for the EU.
do you mean military support Crow or economic?? Or both?
I would say the US military support in that the military umbrella is stretched over Europe and Europe may sleep in calm in the hope that the US would intervene when Europe is in danger. Thus Europe may think: ah, we don't need to spend so much money on defense while Uncle Sam sits nearby, just across the pond. Let's spend this money on social welfare and other more pleasant things than the army as we Europeans deserve it, don't we?
without USA support they are merely just ordinary countries. Really. Nothing special
Why do you think that being an "ordinary" country is a bad thing? Being "normal" (whatever that means) is good, or do you want both countries to have global ambitions again? Despite, Germany and the U.K. are both economic powerhouses (#4 and 5 in the world), and Britain is also a nuclear power. Russia wouldn't dare to touch them.
likely to be a victory of Madame Le Pen in France
Ain't going to happen. The French have almost the same political system as the Germans. If the ultra right gets too strong, the other parties form a coalition and prevent Le Pen (or Petry in Germany for that matter) from grabbing power. Le Pen will be out in the second round, that's my guess. Anything else would be a big surprise.
When you say without USA support, do you mean military support Crow or economic?? Or both?
Every. USA needs to focus on China and because of that needs at least minimal Russian understanding, even Russian mediation between USA-China. Plus, USA needs Russia due to turmoils in Islamic world. That all automatically means that all western European schemes that threatening Russian interests becoming `dead weight` to USA. So, USA cleanse the situation. That`s why USA magnates allowed Trump to win (but you won`t read about it in mass media). Sure, UK earlier already got signal (about incoming changes in USA stance) and deflect and retreat from EU (rest of western Europe), even abandoning it, washing hands from conflict with Russia. UK tries to avoid direct conflict with Russia via `back door`, via USA. More and more Germany becoming isolated, main profiteer from anti-Russian actions by EU.
Why do you think that being an "ordinary" country is a bad thing?
ordinary is ordinary. Simple.
Being "normal" (whatever that means) is good, or do you want both countries to have global ambitions again?
normal is normal. Yes, it is positive, good.
Despite, Germany and the U.K. are both economic powerhouses (#4 and 5 in the world), and Britain is also a nuclear power. Russia wouldn't dare to touch them.
Russia, if want, can ruin UK in a few days. Without even using army. But, before that happens, if new USA administration (USA magnates) conclude that UK have leadership which tend to conflict with Russia, USA would stop UK. As the matter of fact, its exactly what`s happening.
The French
France would open itself to Russia maximally. In Anglo dominated world, they also needs Russians. Desperately.
In a world that globalize and transforming into multi-polar, players already tries to preserve its position as one of global centers- centers of civilizations.
johnny reb 47 | 7555
18 Sep 2018 / #36
A Brexit deal will be unveiled in November after Britain and the European Union reached an agreement following a year of intense differences and negotiations, according to reports today.
Not sure where you read that - we are very far from a deal. The British govts proposal is not supported by the Broths parliament or the population and is a non starter with the EU. At the moment leaving with no deal is the most likely outcome and it will be a disaster
Whilst it is true that some Poles have left The UK,I don't see any great rush to get out.
Many have children that were either born here or grew up here and I think most will stay.
Many have children that were either born here or grew up here and I think most will stay.