Drunken Brit beats up young Polish policewoman

I assume they were just opportunists. I'd be curious to now how many Brits were arrested in the Independence day riots in Poland. Something tells me the Brits were not proportionally represented.

She should have shot the stupid ass...

We would not have missed such a loser in the UK....

I hate repeating myself: "Poles in England & Wales 4 times more law abiding than average Brit?
Latest statistics published in the Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail show that Poles living here are overwhelmingly law abiding in comparison to the average resident of England and Wales.

Latest estimates of the number of Poles in England and Wales by the Polish Consulate are around 700,000. In 2010 the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) recorded that 6777 convictions in England and Wales concerned Polish citizens. On the face of it this is still a high number, but in view of the total estimate of Poles in this country, it does show that less than 1% of Poles in this country have been convicted of committing a crime in England and Wales. Or, put another way, less than one Pole in every hundred has been convicted of a crime. Considering that most of the Poles here are young and live in a land with unfamiliar customs to which many have not yet fully adjusted, this is indeed a relatively low figure.

By comparison the Home Office Statistical Bulletin, published in January 2011, stated that the total number of recorded crimes in England and Wales between October 2009 and September 2010 stands at 4,223,362. This covers roughly the same time period as the above crime statistics for Poles. The last recorded population of England and Wales stands at 52,042,000 (2001 Census) though it is probably somewhat higher now. That is equivalent to more than 7 crimes having been recorded for every 100 residents of England and Wales, i.e. one crime for every 14 persons in the country. Obviously many of the above offences would have been carried out by repeat offenders, but it would not be unfair to estimate that some 4% of the indigenous population may have committed a crime."

As for " Anything to suggest that this is not the same in reverse for Brits in Poland?" I have no idea

What you have given is beside the point, what I was asking you to prove is whether Brits are worse in Poland - the point of the thread. I can in no way believe there is more violence committed by Brits in Poland than there is by Poles in Britain. I can think of three murders of elderly people in the UK just in the last 12 months. FInd me any murders by Brits in Poland. I can think of one Brit who was murdered by a Pole in Poland mind. As for lager louts that polonious whinged about , I doubt there is anyone in the UK who hasn't seen a drunk Pole or Pole drinking in parks and benches around the country homeless or not. Illegal and at the very least an embarrassment to the vast majority of Poles who work or live here.

The latest stats for 2001 show Polish topping the leaderboard of criminality. To say as a percentage and ignore the amount of people who have had crimes committed against them is callous To say that 4% may have commited a crime but havent been convicted and compare that to convictions of Poles is disingenuous and not valid as a stat.

For example if cash in hand workers who pay no tax at all (prostitutes, plumbers, builders) were worth the effort of prosecuting how many bent poles would that number rise to? Petty in comparison to the violent act I know...but this thread is about deportation of undesirables - unemployed, homeless, tax-dodgers etc

edit. Just in case it appears, (as it did to me on rereading this post) that I am asking for Poles to be sent away, I am not. On the whole, Poles serve a useful function in the UKs job market.

Poland should make a use of most of the workforce in Poland. There enough work if Poland's governance were handled properly.

Salary disparity along with free borders will leave Poland at a disadvantage when it comes to employment opportunities regardless of government intervention. The advantages are with Poland's business owners who can sell their product more competitively globally due to cheaper labour costs.

That guy is a coward for hitting a woman. Too chicken to punch a guy so he takes out his anger on a woman. Sad.

Its all equal ops' and rights until the woman has to put up with what the men have had to put up with for,well,forever isnt it.....

Some people just see the uniform,so,in a way you should be aplauding this young,forward looking westerner for not being a sexist pig!

(last line may have been ironic...first one wasnt.)

Regardless of occupation, a woman is a woman and an honorable man would not strike her. It's not a matter of sexism.Ń

A cop is a cop, blue is blue,not pink and blue.

And you should not strike a cop. Period.

Wrong, it was 2 somali females who attacked a girl and her boyfriend..Not a paki who assulated a girl....case of chinese whispers!

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html


I think you mean Pims or a G&T at 5pm, tea is in the afternoon and an Englishman wouldnt "munch" either.


No he should have spent time in prison if the crime warrented it....


If the cap fits?

I am sorry that the facts do not support your view of Poles as a people, but facts are facts. And what they demonstrate is that Poles are 4 times more law abiding than the natives in the UK.

I don't think they are more law abiding.The figures don't take into account the gravity of the crimes. Nor are there accurate figures for the number of Poles in the UK.

I suspect any crimes committed by UK citizens (excluding those who identify as Poles for family reasons) in Poland are of a far less serious nature and are far fewer as a percentage of residents.

What facts? I have already told you you have compared an estimate with a fact, anyone who undersatnds stats would tell you you have provided illicit minor fallacy. It would be just as vaild to say 3% of Poles havn't been caught.

I notice you haven't provided any link.

No that wasn't an estimate those were the figures provided by the police. The link has been provided, it's only you that has rejected it because it doesn't support your world view of the Poles. 4 times more law abiding that's what the stats show.

Unbelievable. You cannot equate Poles who have been caught with those who are unknown suspects.


/\This is a complete non sequitur. Absoloute rubbish, It does not follow Technically in reasoning and logic it is called an Illicit Minor Fallacy. One can just with as much validity say

" but it would not be unfair to estimate that some 4% of the population including Poles in the country may have committed a crime."

Still no link to this source? Telegraph? Times? Reuters? DumbArseforums.com?

So what you are saying is that there might be Poles, that we don't know about, who might have committed crimes, which we don't know about WTF.

Since you are not challenging the figures that I have provided, it seems that you agree with them.

I think you might find it is linked to some guy down the pub. No newspaper or authority could print such a ridiculous stat and expect its readers to be so dim to consider it anything more than foolis.


No , I am saying this much of what you said " there might be Poles, that we don't know about, who might have committed crimes [which are recorded]. "

Do you really think every Pole that commits crime is caught and yet from other communities they are not" I am saying, what even a half-wit should understand is that 6777 Poles being caught cannot be the entire number. It is however the largest immigrant crime group. That is if your have a crime committed against you by an immigrant they are more likely to be Polish than of any other nation.

Have a read of this, tell me if you think it is valid :

After digging to a depth of 500 feet, Russian scientists found copper wire dating back over 1000 years, and came
to the conclusion that their ancestors already had telephone networks one thousand years ago.

In the weeks later, German archeologists dug 1000 feet and headlines in the German papers read: "German
archeologists have found traces of 2000 year old optical fibres, and have concluded that their ancestors had
digital telephone 1000 years earlier than the Russians.

One week later, the Polish newspapers reported the following: "After digging as deep as 2000 feet, Polish
diggers found absolutely nothing. They concluded that 5000 years ago, their ancestors were already using
wireless technology .

It the same type of fallacy except your writer, the idiot has made up a stat regarding how many crimes are made by one person and decided that no Poles can be counted because all Poles who commit crime are caught in the UK. LOL.

the first day to me here i realised that som british think they are top affair than others and i wonder why? i mean its obvious that the guy is just jerk so why defend for him

Using your logic you could also argue that this number is over representative, and that Poles are actually more law abiding than the given statistic, and that instead of being 4 times more law abiding than the natives they could 8 times more law abiding.

What's all the fuss about?Is it about pig getting ***** slapped or about the perpetrator who happened to be British?Either way I don't see what's the problem.

Logic is pure, there is no my or your logic. By the reasoning of whomever you quoted he could have indeed said 8 times or any number. All he done was found some stats then tacked on a sentence at the to say "It would not be unfair..." with no calculation at all! The only fact we have is that for 2011 of all the many immigrants Poles are responsible for the most crime, 4700 arrests in London alone. The rest is speculation whether they are 4 or 8 times. And still completely ignores crime by Brits in Poland.

I like the soundtrack on this.

youtu.be/ShrQMAQ6ys8

Looks like the type of chart the daily mail are fond of using.

Not just any stats, these stats are compiled by the Police and Home Office, and what they demonstrate is that Poles are 4 times more law abiding than the locals.

The clip that you provided contains an untruth namely that you can't deport foreign criminals from the UK.

The stats are accurate the conclusion is erroneous and too foolish to have been made by anyone in authority. Come on why no link to the quoted 'statistician'?

You are right about not being able to dport them. It was more the stats and the blues soundtrack I looked at.

worcesternews.co.uk/news/local/9543053.Polish_criminal_sent_back_home/

A POLISH man who caused two years of crime and disorder in Worcester has been deported.
Using new laws, West Mercia Police worked with the UK Border Agency to send Piotr Ziobro back to Poland.
The 23-year-old, a rough sleeper with no fixed address, had been arrested 21 times and convicted of more than 30 offences relating to violence and disorder incidents, thefts and using threatening words and behaviour since arriving in Worcester in late 2009.

It is the first time West Mercia Police has used the new legislation

I meant investments into infrastructure and such.


For crying out loud! London has more interesting (from criminal point of view) places to make monies than Warsaw. Only logical that is drawing in all criminals but to use logic it doesn't mean they are immigrants or we are talking about migrating criminals?

That's because no one in authority is authorized to make such conclusions. The real fool is the one who is unable to look at the figures, do the maths and come up with his or her own conclusion. Or is too intrinsically racist to admit to their meaning.

The stats that you provided in the table only strengthen my point, that in proportion to their population the Poles are some of the most law abiding foreigners in the UK, which probably means you will disown them because it does not fit in to your view of the Poles as a people (which lets not beat around the bush, is at the heart of this debate).

Your quoted non-authority and his estimates. Yes a real fool.

Brits abroad 5.5 million. Brits in prison abroad 2600
Poles abroad 3 million(max). Poles in Prison abroad 7000

Do the maths.

source please?

Where i live there was a whole colony devoted to them, and they have grown to over 20 million in number.