Married in Poland, now wanting divorce, does she have rights to half my earnings?

Madam, it is crazy, but it is also written down in black and white in the Polish Code of Family Law, article 60 paragraph 1, quoting:

"§ 1. Małżonek rozwiedziony, który nie został uznany za wyłącznie winnego
rozkładu pożycia i który znajduje się w niedostatku, może żądać od drugiego
małżonka rozwiedzionego dostarczania środków utrzymania w zakresie
odpowiadającym usprawiedliwionym potrzebom uprawnionego oraz
możliwościom zarobkowym i majątkowym zobowiązanego."

Basically all that needs to happen for that girl to ask him for alimony for herself is a conjunction of the following:

a) Her not being found solely guilty of the marriage falling apart ( highly unlikely that the ruling will be different )

b) Her not having means to properly support herself ( "niedostatek", any Polish lawyer that's around is free to translate this term more precisely, I did it up to my best ability )

That's it, she can go for a ruling that will force him to pay alimony to her in such a case. And said alimony WILL be based, again in black and white in quoted article, not on what he earns but on what he can in theory earn ( "mozliwosci zarobkowe" - again, same issue as with niedostatek, anyone who can translate more precisely, by all means plz do so ).

There is also a paragraph 2 in that article that forms the basis of him having to pay up even more dough in case he is found solely guilty of the marriage falling apart.

Yup, Poland is a VERY female friendly country when it comes to family law.


I fully agree.

I will answer to your questions , when I have more time supposedly in the late evening today . I will tell ytou what the best way out is in your situation . I will give you a fee free opinion , lol :)

For some odd reason monia You don't give off the lawyer vibe, so I dunno whether You are actually in a position to charge the poor bloke.

Other than that, taking advice from females on such matters doesn't always work out too well for males.

divorced much?

Nothing to do with personal life here, just using common sense.

I've seen females, even lawyers, hand out touchy-feely advice in clear-cut cases where it was time to stomp the foot down as the girl was clearly out for blood and money.

I am aware that you are polish women hater and you want all of us to be sluts , but you know yourself that the core of your feelings is based on the fact that you were used by some and you are so bitter about it and still you want to humiliate other women for your misfortune with some polish women.

Here is my insurance advocate`s certificate , for you to know that you are mistaken .

I hope it is unclear and you can`t see my name but you can still see the name of the insurer and that it covers an advocates insurance

The file is too large it didn`t go through , sorry but now I can`t make it smaller . I can send you in private mail if you want .

BTW I don`t have any bad feelings about you, so any time you are in Warsaw you can drop in at my office and I will give you free of charge consultation :) .

Monia, should You even post an insurance certificate and a PHD related to psychology I'll still kindly ask You not to perform any quasi-psychoanalysis ( completely off with Your guesses btw ) with me as a subject. Neither do I like You putting words in my mouth.

Other than that, carry on.

I also only said that You don't give off the lawyer vibe, which actually might be taken as a compliment in most places, no need to get mad, really.


No need.


While I am flattered by the offer I'm actually retaining one law firm in Warsaw and one lawyer in Lodz right now so I'll much rather use them, since they are getting paid ( which means I can also be a slave driver to them, while in Your case with the free consultation I'd not be in that position ).

If you want just to drop in , feel free, I will not bite you and I am very nice so I think it could be a nice meeting after all :)

Will keep it in mind, although why You feel the urge to meet with a guy You describe as a "Polish women hater" is beyond me.

<grins>

Maybe you will change your notion about Polish women , some of us are nice I would even say the majority . I never have any hard feelings about anyone I always forgive other people`s faults .

Never said otherwise.

Anyways, we'll see, in Lodz at the moment.

Monia, on a serious level -

I have a suggestion for you that might be worth looking into, especially if you deal with contract law :)

Oh , really , I deal with civil law generally so contract or corporate law is within my legal practise .

Mine's one of the best.

Everyday, I say a little Thank You.

If you don't have kids she's very unlikely to get anything at all, but get a lawyer to make sure. If you have children it can get tricky. Polish courts favour woman.

Are you trying to say there were no divorces,alimonies and family courts in a "communist" Poland?Let me tell you boy,you are an ignorant.

You read into it in completely the wrong way, APU. I admire your consistency, though.

I do?How should I read it then?I understand you are saying that in PRL women were altruistic and didn't try to get whatever they could in a case of divorce?No?


What's that?

I am saying that it was much harder in those times to be materialistic and go after money. Salaries were far more fixed. It's not a question of character, it's a question of opportunity through a different economic climate.

As Per Usual, a common acronym. Or, if you want, the barman in the Simpsons ;)

I too am going through hell. I married a polish girl in the uk sold up everything quit my job left the uk and built us a home in Poland. Seven years later she wants a divorce , I have nothing as all my assets are in the house I went to England for a while big mistake she got even more settled. Refuses to sell the house , does not earn enough money to pay me back (not that she would) she has basically took me for a ride SO BEWARE OF PRETTY POLISH GIRLS.

i'm soo soo proud of her :) good girl. You don't want surprises?? then stick to your own nation.

What makes you think that a fat, ugly Polish girl wouldn't do the same?

So you have not experienced a man hating English woman then.

Give the guy a break. He's had his pants pulled down big time. yamaha, I guess the house is in her name. If so, walk away. No point wrecking your life over it. Easy to say, I know, but what's the alternative?

RD, you are a f***ing disgrace to Poland.

You must be lying, a Polish woman would never do that. Polish women are Roman Catholic and adhere to a strict moral code.

Are you sure it wasn't an English girl pretending to be Polish?

Ok, enough with the sarcasm.

Get a very good ( = expensive ) family law solicitor in Poland right now, pick a guy who practiced in the jurisdiction of the court that will rule on the case.

Otherwise your chances of seing any fair % of that money back anytime soon are very slim.

You should be baned or ask me for forgiveness.

No, it's disgrace to me that I talk to you. Please don't tell anybody.

English women have their faults but man hating isn't one of them. Polish and English women ... no comparison!

Well it seems cut and run and leave her laughing all the way. But reservoir dog dont bother commenting when you cant even write English and someday lets hope something nice happens to you.What an idiot I've been

I do actually have a deal of experience with both varieties and I have to say the English ones are easier to understand but far more devious. The Polish ones get found out faster. The English ones may have had more practise :)

Devious? In what way?