Don't want others to join us at a table - is it normal for Polish girls to get angry?

Again pointing out for the umpteenth time - in the cultural circle he ( and many other people on this forum ) hail from telling the swooper that the girl knows he should leave is the responsibility of the girl. Of course in the Eastern European cultural circle the "right" thing to do for a male in such a situation is to take part in the competition and hope he can win his queen's attention back, lol.

Confused did exactly what most guys without insight into the "Polish female mind" would do: he hinted that it was perhaps time for her to "do the right thing" and when she didn't - he did it himself without being particularly happy about doing it.

And the reason why none of the guy's opponents in this discussion paid any heed to my post #78 is that they probably couldn't explain why they'd apply a double standard based on gender in this particular case.


Agreed. At times it is nothing short of baffling.

And in my humble opinion that vain approach and that shocking belief that they are just "sooo special" comes from the way women are ( were? ) raised in Eastern Europe.

The OP should appear on next date with two Russkaye each one on one of his legs giving his date oaths for eternal love.

How, exactly, did you hint?

Seriously, insight into the "Polish female mind"?? Only guys who say st like that are the ones that don't think a woman should be treated like a human being, first and formost.

I sat with a screwed up face after a while and told her I was getting jealous while he was away from us. she told me not to worry, he is just friend and shes out with me. basically I ****** up in my reaction but the other two are not without blame.

To sum it all up ! If you don't like it stay away.
A very good advice for confused. Focus; don't like it stay away instead of starting extremely stupid thread.

Midas
You are one of those dudes who believe themselves to be a very wise; prone to giving advices to others. Fair play, in may opinion a waste of time.

That dude confused struck me as a immature male going for looks only, telling him that he is right wont help nobody.

I feel bad for the OP. I don't know about Poland, but "Guy Code 101" says, If you know the guy (however little of an acquaintance) the girl is off limits.... Now if you don't know the guy from Adam, then all's fair :)

Everything depends on how good you can handle unexpected situations.Unfortunately girls turn the easy to difficult by creating obstackles.

The only one who messed up was him, he should have spoken to her. None of this screwed up face nonsence and talking to the man.

At least he can learn from his mistake.

And being a tad judgemental (terrible I know) I don't think she has missed out on much by reading his comments and maybe he hasn't either. Who knows maybe they were even very much suited. I don't know.

He should have given her the silent treatment after that date and wait for her to make the next move. If she calls and asks what's wrong, he should take that opportunity to tell her that she acted like she didn't want him around on their date and that she wanted to be with the coworker and that's why he hasn't called. See what she says then. She doesn't sound like she is that interested in the OP, anyway. Might be time to start looking for a new girl.

Sorry man, you stuffed up. I've been reading your story with interest, but basically, if you had brought it up with her and she had reassured you, you should have been happy with that and said "OK but I really want to spend some time just with you tonight" and then 10 minutes later made a firm suggestion to her, in front of him, to leave with just her. If you did that and she didn't come, that would have been when you would have been right to get upset.

Its seems like after bowling she just wasn't in that much of a romantic mood and wanted to hang out at a pub so you could get to know one of her mates. I know that jealousy sometimes turns us into A@@h@@@s, but we need to know when to suppress that instinct. On second date, you have no right to "control" the situation.

Yes it is! Polish women are very independent and you must not tell them they are in the wrong And definitely dont lose it with them. they like their guys to play it cool. i learnt this the hard way.. I know what you are going through ....

Just find other ways to change the situation, such as suggetsing you both go somehwere else on your own, such as see a film or suchlike. that lets the guy know you are together and her know htta you wnat her and flatters her that you wnat to do something special with her (no no that, lol) always flatter her as well, they take pride in their appearance and respond well to intelligent compliments about their character or appearance.