Polish men what is the worst thing a girl can do upon first impression?

omg, for the first time I agree with you zimmy... amazing thing.

Yeah, my old Pop used to say most women just see you as oxen or something.

Poppa was right; and indeed, it's something everyone knows inherently but few dare speak it

Enjoy: fathersforlife.org/hist/beasts_of_burden.htm

uh oh, I do that a lot. haha


I must disagree with that. I don't want more helpless offspring like him coming out of it. Don't encourage that.

And who takes Camille Paglia seriously nowadays?


What exactly didn't you understand of the part that it's our basic function in evolution? The rest is all wonderful and nice, but for evolution it doesn't play any part whatsoever, so from a evolutional perspective it's all arteficial.

Zimmy, if you don't understand what I'm saying I suggest you don't react to what I write or ask what I mean, as you clearly didn't understand that I already took care of all the things you mention here. But you're free to ask if you don't understand sth. After all, that is how we learn, eh?


The same goes for you, bimbo, if you don't understand what I'm saying, just ask me to explain again, instead of just starting to shout like Zimmy does and clearly giving evidence that you don't understand what I said.

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M-G (thinks Zimmy is not so smart after all)

I understand completely what your saying and I am in no way shouting. I am very calm. I just would prefer people not to foolishly encourage a libtard to contaminate the world with their filth lol. A libtard making babies means more libtards haha and the plan to overpopulate the world with right wing people will be ruined. However, I don't believe that a libtard would have kids, even if they had to secure the existance of their politics in the future.

Just by saying that you haven't understood. I am far from right wing.

I dare anybody to prove me wrong on my statements and explain exactly to me how art, poetry etc contributes to the physical evoluton of a species like Homo Sapiens. And in the process, clarify also how poetry physically inseminates the female of the species. The fact that there are still wars on this planet, that there is still hatred, that there is still blood revenge, still murder, still violence, proves that even though we think we have progressed, we're still deep down inside that primitive caveman and therefore men are only needed for continuation of the species and the rest is arteficial.

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M-G (haec hactenus)

Actually, there's evidence that early humans were more peaceful towards eachother than we are now, because they needed eachother to survive. The rest is artificial? So we don't have to provide for our family? So we don't have to teach our sons all the things their mothers can't teach them? We don't ever fix things when they're broke? We never build something? We can stop inventing and drop science, because it's not necessary? We never have to protect our wife and kids? We never have to care for her when she's sick? We never have to look after her when she's troubled?

Come on, we're more than a walking spermbank, just like women are more than a talking condom.

:)

Ok, I'm not gonna explain it any more. I've did so a few times and apparently only a handful seem to understand what I'm saying. Just gonna drink one or two bloody maries tonight and off to bed for tomorrow there is a big match.

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M-G (haec hactenus - literally this time)

If you're talking about ants, snails and horses then you're comment might have some validity.
Somehow, you missed the part of evolution that gave mankind a special consciousness which includes the ability to think in abstract terms; to marvel at the universe, to ask questions and indeed to even laugh at absurdity; something no other species on earth is capable of. I suggest that these and other related conceptualizations are not merely "nice" as you put it but integral to who we are. Ignoring this evolutionary journal makes you no better than a bat.


You stated: "We are a species and the only purpose of a species is to create offspring with different characteristics" What's to not understand?


I understand that humans have a special consciousness; you understand that men are only good for impregnating women and women are good for getting pregnant.


Point out where I shouted. Perhaps it was during coitus when I was doing my duty doing my evolutionary directive?


You miss where he's coming from. He's a subservient liberal mangina who 'feels' that saying the right things to women is the way to go.


You're not bright enough to see the contradiction in your above comment - are you?
(hint: if there is war, etc, than the "continuation of the species" is in jeopardy. Our advanced evolutionary moral qualities are needed to bring peace and harmony as well as uplifted standards of living to propagate our species. That's hardly artificial.)


Why watch the match? After all, you're only good for "continuation of the species".


With a little maturity perhaps you'll finally be able to face facts as well as objective truths. Until then, continue to put your hands around your eyes and ears so that unpleasant reality doesn't disturb your narrow minded beliefs and wiles.

Our brain is the only thing that differs us from the rest of the animals. We are not fast, even the slowest animal is faster than us. It's an experiment of nature and as it turns out an experiment gone wrong. Normally nature would have killed us off many years ago as we are a successful species with an overpopulation that is way too high for Earth, but we somehow outsmart nature every year with flue vaccins, for example. We are a species, just like any other species on this Earth and our only difference with other animals is that we have a huge brain. But not the biggest, it seems. Other main difference with other animals is that we can adjust our surroundings to our needs, instead of adapting ourselves to our surroundings.


No matter how you THINK you have found a contradiction, you haven't. Wars are only there because we're still in the possession of primitive patterns of thinking. All the rest is decoration, nice and beautiful, but not essential. You still haven't explained convincingly how you think that arts, literature and music can and have contributed to the continuation of the species. But I guess you can't as you're not such a sharp tool in the shed.

Gee, if a simple explanation of evolution already hurts your ego, then I really feel sorry for you. Stop thinking with your ego and start thinking in normal logical reasoning.

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M-G (can't believe that I'm explaining it again)

My kina girl! :D

That's another thing a girl should never do... Be a Libtard. Big turn off...

Nah, we can put all of earth's people in Texas and there still would be elbow room.


The "only difference"? Our brain is the whole ballgame and a nice piece of evolution it has been to get us to this point.


The arts, music, etc, make life liveable. Not many of us would want to bring children into the world without these things as well as luxuries. But my point with these almost god-like qualities which include virtues is that they separate us from all other species thus making us special. Of course many lefties don't think so and believe a crab is equal to a human being. Your simple definition regarding procreation at its base level suggests that you are one of those.


Stop projecting how you feel,unless of course you really have to.

oh no!!!! :)

Are you really such an idiot or are you just pretending to be an idiot? It's the only thing that makes us different from all the other animals. We cannot run fast, we don't see very well, we can't hear that good, our sense of smell is really below all measures. Given the weak creatures that we are, nature needed to invent sth that made us different, so it came up with a brain. In hindsight nature probably realises this mistake, hence its yearly attempts to kill substantial parts of us in form of flue epedemics and so on.


We're nothing but animals that can think and everything you have come up with so far just confirms what I have been saying that males make up a lot of things just to distract themselves from the simple and basic fact that they are only there to inseminate the female of the species (at least as a mammal). We're not special. We like to think we're special, because it is ourselves that have made up this idea and we're (ah well, at least you are) so stupid to believe ourselves. We create our own rules and live by it and make the mistake to think that nature thinks the same way. Newsflash: it doesn't. Our brain can think up the most beautiful things, but it also can create war and destruction.

And I'd rather be a leftist progressive person than a right wing bigot like you, who's mega male ego cannot cope with the idea that males are basically only there for procreation. Well, reading your posts so far, it doesn't surprise me at all. Like I said before, you don't seem to understand me and this makes you defensive. But that is typical for right wingers: they are generally unpleasant persons who have not learned to think for themselves and are are mightily stuck up with prejudices and don't believe in any form of progress.


This confirms my suspicion about you. Pls don't react to this topic anymore, as you only write from your male ego.

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M-G (so sorry your male ego gets hurt a little. Don't start crying now, you hear?)

Slavic women do not like feminism and this is good.

My,my,my, you really are too emotional. You're a female pretending to be a male aren't you?


Well now that depends on the animal doesn't it? We can outrun a snail (maybe you can't). This is true for all the rest of the attributes such as smell, hearing, etc. Different species have different strengths. Humans have the best one - our advanced brains.


Since humans dominate earth it would seem that we are the most successful creatures and not weak at all; but of course it takes logic to observe something so obvious.


I put a lot of stock in the brain. You seem to minimize it. Well, start using yours.


Nature's not doing a good job of it since there are almost 7 billion humans.


You are female aren't you?


Ah, there is the rub eh? I was right, you do believe that humans are no better than bats or any other living thing. Well, you and a skunk do have lots in common.....


It's not a question of feeling we're special; it's just fact. I've never seen an animal build a skyscraper or discuss abstract concepts; or muse about the universe, or invent complicated languages, or fly to the moon, or do a zillion things that demand specialness.


....and that's special too.


So girly of you to constantly mention male in a negative light. Is it that time of the month for you?


My ego landed many years ago. A big ego only enslaves. Now, I live my life with something additionally special, something other creatures don't have, it's called free will. But if you want to continue comparing yourself to a donkey, your free will allows you to do it.

Now you are insulting dutch?

Dutchie only insults herself, besides, my comments are retorts to initial insults.

You seem to be a bit antifeminist.

You're wrong; I'm not "a bit antifeminist", I'm very antifeminist. In previous threads I've more than proven the hypocritical nature of feminism as well as the antimale bashing so prevalent in feminist literature and deeds.

That's it for today as my daughter is taking me to see Denis Leary who is appearing at the Chicago Theatre tonight. I'm guessing that MareGaea probably prefers the immature "Vagina Monologues". :)

Maybe that's because feminism has become a joke. Feminism used to be about women campaigning for equal rights to make their own choices in life, but somehow that mutated into the ridiculous concept that women need to BE men.

I am an intelligent and capable woman in my own right, i do not have to try and compete with men to prove that. I don't have to try and run faster, grow my underarm hair, or drink beer and belch to validate myself.

Feminists say they are fighting for freedom of choice, then they ridicule women that CHOOSE to stay at home and raise a family. They are hypocrites and akin to the "sexist chauvinist pigs" they say they're standing up against, with their small minded thinking.

Genetically speaking, women are women, and men are men, but more importantly people are individuals. If you don't like men that think women should be chained to the kitchen sink, then don't involve yourself with those kinds of men. If you don't like women that think you should pay for everything whilst contradicting themselves with their "i have rights" rubbish, then look elsewhere.

Everyone is entitled to their own point of view. Sometimes that opinion might be downright stupid, prejudiced and narrow minded, but such is life. You won't be able to change that person, even if you argue yourself blue in the face. "We have no words for speaking of wisdom to the stupid. He who understands the wise is wise already."

As for the worst thing a girl can do on first impression? Trying to be something or someone that you're not just to impress another person. Nothing is more unattractive than a fake and a try-hard, and that goes for men and women.

Of course that is all just in my humble opinion, and i'm nothing more than human ;o)

Great post!

If other women ridicule you for staying home, then you're hanging out with wrong women. You should not generalize, because we all fight our own battles. I think you might not realize why women cannot "be themselves". One example: in order for me to be effective at work, I HAVE to be one of the boys. If I put on lipstick, a pair of high heals and a dress on, these otherwise intelligent men that I have to spend 10 hours a day with, will not hear a word I'm sayng. That's just to start with.

Zimmy, you're not smart enough to talk with me. Pls don't reply to my posts again. Thanks and bye Zimmy.


You seem to forget that every movement that seeks his place in society always starts off with extremes, then mildens it's viewpoint and eventually ends up where they want to be. The feminisim you talk about is from about 30 years or more ago. It's not like that anymore.


See my above comment. You don't like feminism, do you? Did you know you just confirmed all the male chauvinist pig's viewpoints with this? Are you a woman indeed? If so, why do you talk against your own like this? You are equal to men, men are no more nor less than you are. Yet you confirm those viewpoints. Perhaps because...yeah, why, actually?

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M-G (feels truly sorry for Zimmy with his futile intelligence)

what are primitive patterns of thinking?

See "human patterns of thinking".

Grmbl, he has a bigger garden than I have, must have his garden. Will take his garden after I beat him up. (fill in anything for "garden").

Generally the patterns of thinking that start wars.

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M-G (those are primitive patterns of thinking)

I didn't say women had ridiculed me, i was pointing out that in general this is what public speaking feminists do - criticise women that DO want to be housewives or raise a family.

Why do you have to act like a man to be a powerful person in your own right? This is my main issue with modern feminism, acting like a man to be taken seriously as a woman!


I'm talking about modern feminism, the kind of feminism that effects me today as a WOMAN and an INDIVIDUAL. The problem with any extreme movement is that at some point they will go too far and people will no longer look at the issues they were trying to address in the first place.

Feminists started out with wonderful intentions - to give women freedom of choice and equal rights - but at some point it turned into some sort of bizarre mission to prove that women can do everything better than men, by acting like men!

I have lost count of the amount of times i have watched an interview with a prominent feminist and felt utter disbelief at the things they have said, for example, any woman choosing to stay at home and raise a child instead of going out and fighting against the evil men are letting down the entire female population. Seriously, wtf?!


Clearly not, see above.


Please explain how. As far as i can see all i have confirmed is that a woman can be an intelligent and valued individual without going to the extreme measures of modern day feminists.

I do not feel the need to compete with men to validate my own importance as a person.


Last time i checked, yes.


I'm not talking against my own, please tell me where i made any derogatory remarks against WOMEN? I am making a point about the evolution of the feminist movement. If anything, i was trying to point out that women can be equal in their own right, without having to try and be a man.

Hm, perhaps you know a different kind of feminism than I do. The feminism when I was young viewed all men as potential rapists. Later on this gradually winded down and nowadays prominent feminists like Germaine Greer and Susan Sontag have publicly stated to be embarrassed by such statements. The average feminist doesn't want to act or be like a man. The statement that any woman can do what any man can do must not be seen as a statement that they want to be like a man, but merely as a statement against a male-dominated world. And it's still a male dominated world. For example, have you got any idea how many female managers there are in opposite of male managers? I don't know the exact number, but it's way too few. There are plenty of intelligent women out there who could make a great manager, yet they don't get a chance. And it's in this light statements like that should be seen. The rough edge has long gone, the policies have changed, but the msg remains the same as there is still need for that msg, obviously.


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Guys who think like that have obviously a problem and it's THAT way of thinking that needs to be changed, not the women's in that regard. Women could object to this way of thinking, but given the fact that for men who think like that the step to verbal and even worse abuse is easily made, this is not an option. The problem is the MEN who think that way, not the woman who gets involved as she most of the times only finds out later that the man she loves thinks like that. By advising women not to get involved with these men a point is missed, or actually 2 points are missed.


You don't have to. Nobody of the feminists says you have to. It's about equality and the right to have access to the same things as men have reserved for themselves.


Oh, I got that point, but you see my point too? I have nothing against a woman who wants to stay at home and nurture her kids and wants to be a slave to a man who thinks a woman's only right is the kitchen sink, but as there are plenty of smart and sometimes well educated women out there it would be a waste to have them not fill up places as a competent representative whereas by staying home these places run the risk of being filled up by either less competent men or less competent women.

Edit: even Simone de Beauvoir later admitted she was a bit harsh in her opinions and also admitted she only wrote them down to impress Sartre.

Edit 2: you only have to look in the shelters for mistreaded women to know that the step I earlier mentioned is very real and that there is definitively sth terribly wrong with guys who think like that.

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M-G (haec hactenus)

PS, surely you know that it's thanks to the feminists and suffragettes that women can actually go to college nowadays? And surely you know that feminism has, in spite of what opponents have said, NOT lead to a destabilisation of the family as cornerpiece of society? Au contraire, it's thanks to feminism that a lot of fathers actively are involved in raising children. Before the 70's it was unthinkable that men were pushing a buggy. Nowadays it's generally accepted. Right to vote, to work, be generally equal to men (which women truly are in my opinion) and so on...All thanks to feminism. Disregarding feminism would be like biting the hand that has fed you.

Note: I don't know where you live, but if it's in Poland, I can understand that feminists still have that radical element. Poland is a very, very conservative society and when changes need to be implemented in such a society it will be very radical, confrontational at first. Later on it will subside and take its place within that society, after the changes have been made.

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M-G (knew a lot of feminists when he was a student and they weren't rabiate manhaters)