All right pretty girls, we respect your sensitivity and feelings. But how if you really hurt your boy?! Don't tell me it's few cases or seldom happens?! there are several number of boys in Warsaw who are suffering from the same pain. Or those who are in a relationship scare sometimes and feel suspicious about the same problem. Please don't bring your famous excuses of being drunk, forgetful, loosing consciousness or at the end horny.
Come on let's discuss and analyze about this at here.
I'm struggling to find any meaning to this thread.
I believe the OP has had an issue with an attractive Polish female. I sense that he views them as somewhat aloof and uncaring about other peoples feelings, especially when said feelings may have been hurt in an apparently caring, committed relationship. It is likely that he believes the phenomena of girls who hurt men's feelings is more common than may be apparent or commonly estimated. It may be that he finds it hard to believe that they could really be that uncaring, and unaffected by the pain that they cause. Anecdotally, he is aware of other men, wandering the streets of Warsaw in a similar circumstance to which he now finds himself engrossed in, or concerned that they are about to find themselves in that painful situation. At the end of the essay, the OP suggests that lapses of judgment caused by the consumption of alcohol, Alzheimer's, narcolepsy or sexually induced mania couldn't really be the true origin for the ability to cause the hurt feelings mentioned in the opening statement.
He emplores us to explore the ongoing relationships between men and women, in an effor to compare and contrast the mindsets of the sexes as a demographical group and as individuals.
The OP is wonderfully written and takes you through a gamut of emotions from beginning to end. A microscopic yet macroscopic evaluation of the human condition, and a brilliant retrospective analysis of the suffering of man at the hands of women that stands the test of time.
Kudos to him, and I hope the part of the OP is played by Johnny Depp in the forthcoming feature attraction.
The OP is wonderfully written and takes you through a gamut of emotions from beginning to end. A microscopic yet macroscopic evaluation of the human condition, and a brilliant retrospective analysis of the suffering of man at the hands of women that stands the test of time.
Shh, grown-ups talking, you go to bed, it is past curfew.
I believe the OP has had an issue with an attractive Polish female. I sense that he views them as somewhat aloof and uncaring about other peoples feelings, especially when said feelings may have been hurt in an apparently caring, committed relationship.
Splendid, well done :-).
Though I must say the threadstarter strikes me more as a strong, silent type. The ever-talkative Johnny Depp might not be the best fit - he's a tad too flashy, a bit too eager to please the audience.
Daniel Craig... he'd play the role of the threadstarter magnificently. Wonder if he's available?
Come on let's discuss and analyze about this at here.
Yes, let's analyze and discuss.
Your other posts indicate you are a foreign male studying in Poland but you are more interested in Polish girls and already admitted wanting to start a relationship. You leave the impression that the "several number of boys in Warsaw who are suffering from the same pain" are not native Poles but rather are other migrants who are struggling to secure permanent residency.
Dating and relationship discussions are too subjective of a topic. And besides, don't you have a father figure in your personal life to talk about such things rather than complete strangers?
To be spending so much time socializing online and around Warsaw it doesn't sound like you are in a very challenging school. That or studying isn't very important since being in school is simply a pretext to bide some time so you can get your foot in the door and hopefully remain in Poland indefinitely.
Why not just admit you are an economic migrant because your homeland is inadequate for social development?
Personally I think the OP has tried hitting on several Polish girls and worn out all the usal chat up lines eg you're beautiful, I like you, I love you, do you like me etc etc etc all within the space within 4-5 hours of meeting the object of his desire. What has probably happened then is that one or two of them have then decided to string him along by getting him to buy drinks and/or food for her and he's then thought he's on to a sure thing not realising that the girls have seen through his blatant BS and they're not interested. Slighted by these setbacks he then comes on to polishforums.com in the hope that the girl who strung him along reads this forum and actually gives a ****. Or am I being too cynical? :D
Welcome to the world of Polish women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are some great ones However there are some real hard nosed harlots who don't care who they hurt, just as long as they get what they want! Try looking a bit deeper than the scrubbers at the disco, make friends with a few of the more natural looking girls at college, better all round !
Warsaw is the capital and the most "socially advanced", so to speak, place in Poland.
Girls in Warsaw are a bit less likely to fall for the usual 3rd world bullshit lines ( you have beautiful eyes ) which certain gents use in hope of finding a girl that will help "extend" their stay in Europe.
Hmm... look man if polish girls say's this that "They are sensitive and easily to be hurt i'm totally agree with them, why because this thing is not with only polish girls, is with all regional woman of the world and God made a woman sensitive by feelings man play with these feelings easily that he thinks woman is just a toy for him no she is not a toy she is a normal human being. Woman heart is just like a Deep Ocean if man would swim he will discover new things about her. We should Respect her in all way because she could be a Great Mother, She could be a Nice Sister.She could be a Beautiful and She could be a Grateful Friend....In one word Woman means "Care". she cares about her children, she cares about her brother, she cares about her husband and she cares about her friends....
If you're hunting for girls in Poland, you're looking in the wrong place. Try next door in Ukraine.
That is not true. Lie and stereotype. I have Ukrainian friends, and ex girlfriend from Ukraine.
In Poland you hear a lot about horny ukrainian and russian girls who drop their pants for foreigners. They say the same about polish women in west Europe... is that true? Answer yourself.
First of all i would like to make it clear that i'm not here for haunting as you say,,,and if you talk about those ppl who drop their pants actually they didn't know or what should i must say that they are far far away from their religion because when somebody step away or do wrong things which are restricted by their religion then fall like a shooting star in the end they made a suicide or became mentally ill.
I have alot of friends from Poland and they all are great people who obey their religion, do full fill religeous obligations and In every society there are bad ppl as well as good ppl so i have met those good ppl from Poland society. but still i say woman means care
Yes Shawn you can be a great help at here. Dear Wasif, tell me how come a bad girl could be a good care of you or your children? As you said, the one who is not loyal and may considered a bad mate for her B/F or husband, how could care of him or his children?!
The problem in this Polish society is that some Polish girls enjoys trying boys which result in a cruel personality for them in the future. We could see in the parties among young generation those students that make themselves drunk and hug and kiss other boys........ My question is how come a good girl could kiss a boy for the first time never met before in a party and bring excuses that I was drunk or forgot or lost consciousness.
How could we trust these type of people when they are cruely behave like that without any rules?!!!
We are not blind and we will see these things happen a lot of time. However, I always believe there are nice and good polish girls around who we can count on them differently. But let's discuss about the reasons.
haha :D You are right though but what i'm saying that every society has bad as well as good people. And if a girl is bad or couldn't take care of her husband & children then it's husband responsibility to solve his domestic values by means of a talk and feel her guilty about her act may be she would realize it and might be possible she would take care of her husband and as well as her children. And about that girl who just met first time in the party and kiss a guy who she know him in just a few minutes than she is a desperate, lust of sexual effection..I have no comments for those girls.
Indeed. Shawn, your traslation skills and literary panache are badly needed yet again, please make this make sense.
The problem in this Polish society is that some Polish girls enjoys trying boys which result in a cruel personality for them in the future.
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
A woman hugging and kissing boys while drunk. Allah's punishment must fall upon her.
I don't know why Polish people don't just stone them. I mean, that would be ok, right? I also heard the Polish don't burn widows on their dead husband's funeral pyres... Another outrage! How barbaric.
Seriously, you're a guest in Poland, boy, you're in no position to criticize your hosts, adjust to the local mentality.
When a Polish woman claims to be sensitive, and prone to hurt feelings, the poster would agree with them for the following reason: She is a human being. Whether she is Polish or another nationality is irrelevant. In his eyes, the creator (ed. all versions of said creator could be interchangeable, whether one is of the Christian, Muslim, Jewish or FSM faith...) has instilled them with a cornucopia of emotions and feelings. He goes on to suggest, rightly or wrongly that men, like the fabled Gepetto, play women like marionettes as if playing game. He takes issue with the propensity for men to toy with women's emotions reminding the reader that humans of the female persuasion, are indeed human. Ergo, as a human, they should be exempt from such behavior. The poster then sets up a metaphoric analysis comparing a woman's heart to a deep ocean, filled with mysteries, serenity, and things of beauty, never to be fully understood by those of the male persuasion. I feel however that dependant on ones perspective, the poster's metaphor could be mis-read. For many, a Deep Ocean could be construed as a deep dark abyss from which many men have ventured, never to be seen again, either being crushed by the depth of the ocean to which they have found themselves inadequately prepared for or eaten by a fiendish sea-monster of Mythological Greek Proportions. I might suggest that either the poster is an idealist, or a subversive feminist imposter. In his closing remarks, the poster plants a seed of respect for women by suggesting that a woman has the ability to don so many roles in society (Mother, Sister, Friend) and that when compared to the brutality that men are capable of, it is obvious that a woman has evolved to care. This comparison is well developed, and draws well from the concept of Yin and Yang.
The analysis of complex relationships continues in the post above. The poster is aware of a woman who has the ability to be "bad", yet is able to care to the proper degree for a husband and their children. I am particularly impressed with the use of the subjective term "bad". When reading this line, one is never sure if this woman is bad in the sense of a woman with a Madonna / ***** complex, or if the woman is a mass murderer. By utilizing the subjective term, he is fostering a discussion amongst those of a wide array of view points, all who have some unique perspective to bring to the table. He goes on to implore the poster to which he replied to to expand on the idea of how a Bad woman can care for her mate and their children.
In an analysis of Polish society, the poster points out that certain individual females, in a stark juxtaposition to the females in his society, are socially and sexually adventurous. In his culture, females like those "adventurous" specimens he has encountered in Poland, are statistically rare. Having limited experience with these outlying data points, he finds himself questioning the proper methodology of handling these experiences. There are very few time tested protocols that have been handed down from male to male over the generations from his particular societal sub-set. There is a definite amazement at a previously un-witnessed ritual in which males and females of the Polish species can interact. I would only go so far to compare his amazement to the first time a scientist witnessed primates using tools to extricate bugs from the depths of a tree for sustenance. It was previously thought that only humans possessed the ability to make use of tools. Continuing, he relates his experience at a social function where alcohol may have reduced the inhibitions of "good" girls. At the aforementioned party, boys and girls not bound by a committed and legally recognized relationship, are interacting in ways that would be considered inappropriate in his culture. I sense that he found the situation to be incredible, but at the same time, as if there were some tribal chanting with bon-fires, or like a feeding frenzy amongst a group of sharks, the poster partook in the rituals in which he found himself immersed. After the fact, he has found himself questioning the differences in societal norms, particularly as the relate to pre-conceived concepts of the female. He is exploring the boundaries of good / bad and how it seems a fine line can be crossed. In an attempt to understand the mindset of the Polish female, he has conducted surveys (accurate to +/- 3%, 19 times out of 20, conducted by telephone between the dates of May 5 through May 12 on random telephone numbers in the Warsaw telephone directory) with a series of questions as to what reasons one would need to become intimate with an heretofore unknown party. The top statistical responses all related to alcohol consumption, forgetfulness, and narcolepsy.
In a scathing commentary on the state of the Polish moral collective, he goes on to cast doubt on the trustworthiness of the promiscuous Polish female. In addition, he submits that in the social circles in which he circulates, this behavior is not statistically insignificant, but he fails to realize that the parameters of social norms may be different under the different circumstances to which he is accustomed. That said, he still feels a sense of optimism that during his remaining time in Poland, he will find a female whose moral compass is aligned with his own.
Wasif has replied to the OP's concerns about the state of the moral collective by reminding the OP that it is within each society one will find a range of morals with a symmetrically shaped bell curve pattern with extremes at both ends of the spectrums (Moral + 3 Sigma, Amoral - 3 Sigma). Should the OP find himself in a relationship with a female who lies on the -3 Sigma end of the bell curve, he should endeavor to discuss the situation and using all avenues of persuasion available to him, to correct the situation. However it should be noted that if there is sufficient data to surmise before the start of the relationship to suggest the partner is within the Lower half of the moral guidelines, said females should be avoided in the first place. Sage advice indeed.
But Uncle take a look around it is a western culture the whole EU is in the same culture and you just only blame a girl what about boy why they couldn't stop themselves to not to do such thing is a girl forcing him nah...!!! both boy and girl are endulging of these types of act who are totally against the law of Allah, and the family structure in the west is totally is totally demolished that parents are their own way of life and the children their own and i think most of the western ppl don't believe in God or such type of thing who create us is existing or not
ShawnH - You sir are a genius. Grade A stuff. I for one am enlightened and finally caught a glimpse of the delicate inner balance of the mind of wasif.
Your marvellous grasp of English language is probably lost on both the threadstarter and wasif , but we can't have everything, huh? :-)
On a related sidenote, do consider publishing fiction if you haven't already done so, I'm absolutely serious.
But Uncle take a look around it is a western culture the whole EU is in the same culture and you just only blame a girl what about boy why they couldn't stop themselves to not to do such thing is a girl forcing him nah.
1. If I were a family member in a position of even remote responsibility for your upbringing I'd probably have to kill myself for failing at life, due to some of the stuff you posted here. So "uncle" is out of place.
2. Yes, this whole European culture is a tragedy. I mean every time a woman gets drunk and commits some terrible affront to Allah, some blind mullah in a mud hut in Kandahar or even any random man on the street it should be customary to burn her face off with acid, like you boys do in Pakistan, right?
That would set these awful women straight real quick, too bad these dumb Euro types don't get that, it is up to you muslim lads to show them what's right, eh?
Seriously - you are in no position to criticize European culture, you are a guest in our house ( at the moment in our - Europe's - poor guest quarters also known as Poland ) and if you don't like our rules, customs, approach to women's rights and so forth you are by all means invited to pack your bags and go back to wherever you came from.
I'm sure the lucrative goatherding industry in the Ghazni province of Afghanistan will welcome such a resourceful gent as yourself with open arms and you'll make millions there in no time.
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