Facebook? i never known that place till some months ago. Anyway, i registered, no profile, no friend, etc, just for *this* silent one as she had a page there. Anyway, yesterday night, a brit girl started to send some msg to me who i dont know.. she suddenly went crazy and offense over offense with some f language. i guess it is a place with full of maniacs.
"A few weeks ago" is actually by now a few years ago? Can't even remember when I wrote that.
Edit: ah, I see, last December. Well, that was a few weeks later already history. She was nice and cute and all, but she didn't do a thing to me. I just thought the fairest thing to do was to cut it off before the damage would get too deep. Haven't had anybody since. And I don't want anybody since as a lot of things have happened to me personally in the meantime. I have my on-off's but that's just about it.
I don't specifically like Polish girls. Not really, actually. It just so happened that I got my first PL gf about 2,5-3 years ago and it was like having a gf in the 50's NL, if you know what I mean. See description above what happened to the 2nd one.
You mean blow up dolls?
Don't reflect your own poor lovelife on others, southern.
Pozdrowienia... This is my first post, though I've been lurking for several weeks and have been here to check stuff out a few times before that. This is a really interesting forum and I'm glad to read all the different points of view and from so many countries.
As for me, I'm an American who met a Polish girl in my native country. She moved here when she was young and has dual citizenship. I find her to be fascinating and somewhat dangerous, while still having a decent, wholesome quality. This despite also being a bubbling cauldron of lust like nothing I've seen before. Courting her, however, was an enormous headache until she was finally ready to start having sex. So, while I was dealing with the arcane intricacies of this puzzle I came here to learn about Polish culture and what the women are like. I've read so many threads that talk about the myth and legend of Polish girls and there was so much info in them, little tidbits all over the place that seem to fit the one I know so perfectly.
This thread, though, really hit home so I felt compelled to register and add my two cents. Be forewarned. =)
@M-G: In my view this girl liked you, but was testing you, where if you fail then you are unworthy. Another possibility is that she was too busy with her life to realize how good you are, and just happens to be flirty and the type of woman who gets a lot of attention. Based on your writing you don't seem like a needy type and it looks like you did the same thing I did.
In my view, the critical moment in your courtship was when you told her to go to hell for showing the sexual side of her personality at that party. The anger, the drama, you gave her was invigorating and so she rewarded you with attention. That fight when you were all wasted, got jealous, and then got knocked out? Once again, rewarded with attention. Those were big moves you made, big risks, and you were rewarded.
I also believe that if a guy puts the alpha male moves on a girl like her, at their most macho moments, like the ones in your story, at that point he has a new power in her eyes. He'll finally have a real shot of getting to the next level. In those moments, if he just grabs her and starts making out passionately the effect on her defenses can be devastating. There's a good chance she'll submit, and if you are able to get her hot and bothered, you could actually bed her. Of course, once a guy does that, she'll have a crack in her armor. She (any girl, not just a Polish one) will have given away one of the most important things she has, first time sex, something she can never give away twice. If she has any interest in him at all after that point, the recurring sex will bond her to him and it becomes much easier to get into a relationship.
Which brings me back to why I registered to actually post here. What I describe is what I achieved with the Polish girl I am currently dating. I have never dated a Polish girl, but I have heard about them and how amazing they are. Their reputation is very good around here: Beautiful, Smart, Independent, Feminine. I found this girl to be all that and more (not all of it necessarily good, by the way). I'm evaluating her to see if I want her to be an actual girlfriend, and also, I'm at the point in my life where I'm open to marriage. So I guess you could say I have a special interest in her.
M-G, your story and some of the struggles you describe really remind me of what I went through. Let me tell you about the turning point. She had cancelled on me 5 times in a row, and a couple of those involved some really bad, obvious excuses. Then she disappeared out of town for two weeks, didn't keep in touch like she said she would, then later called me while she was drunk (!). I was of course angry with her behavior and simply stopped responding -- period. I did not do what you did here, which was keep checking in with her after she ever failed to keep up her half of the push/pull game.
With all respect, this is where I think you could have turned the whole thing to your advantage much earlier. When a woman plays hard to get, I usually never communicate with her a second time until she responds. Ever. Text, call, email, doesn't matter. She will get no more than one communication from me, *unless* it's the very first time for her to respond (then I'll give her 2 or even 3 attempts). After that, it's the only way to communicate strength. I try to show that, since she insists on playing this game, I am going to hold her to it. It seems to be the only way to win. Play along, show enough sophistication, angle for an advantage, and when the time is right I take what is mine. Based on what you wrote, I'd boil down her behavior to teasing you, making you jealous, and rewarding your emotional investments in her.
Well, in my case about 6 weeks went by. I tried to not let it bother me and just forget about her, figuring it was a bad sign and not worth the hassle. Then, finally, she came back to me and was very apologetic. She then told me that she had an ex out there and was reminded of him; he dumped her hard I guess a couple of years ago. Maybe she saw him, maybe not, as she was also on a legit business trip (at least, I choose to believe this). I gave her another chance, and the whole time I acted completely normal and she never knew I was at all upset.
We continued seeing each other, but our dates were superficial for a long time. The sexual chemistry was amazing, but it all seemed to be a big tease where she always kept her distance. After enough time passed I simply asked her point blank what she'd been doing all this time, i.e. how has she been able to survive without any sex. She had no good answer and fell soon after that...
I think she is falling for me. I've met her sister, best friend, and the best friend's boyfriend, and will meet more people in her life at a party next month. She calls me every day, texts me every day. She's insanely horny and is coming over this weekend. It's almost too good to be true, but, I'm starting to detect what the catches are. As a previous poster observed, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Regardless, this woman is amazing. I'm starting to wonder very seriously what it would be like to deal with the downsides in order to keep the upsides. She is 100% Polish, by the way. And I am 100% intrigued.
So to summarize, I've seen a Polish girl go through a wide range of complex behaviors, and I believe her when she says she has feelings for me. So I'll be reading a lot more around here to learn about Polish culture and how that affects the psyche of Polish girls.
Thanks everyone for the really interesting thread...
For example, she is sneaky and lies often. When she found out I can be sneaky too, she looked quite pleased. I paid attention only to her eyes.
They are confused all the time. My GF is sometimes more caring & strange. She quarrel if I ask her any question but she always blame me for something which I didn't do. She text or call when she wants to, but when I want to text or call, then she says I can't talk right now. haha
Well, I think she need more time to understand, anyway my love towards her is gradually decreasing with her strange behaviour.
Yeah, asking questions can be like an affront to them in their own language. They react a bit differently in Polish.
Oh, the blame game. NEVER have I seen a Scottish girl do that to that extent. They are in a league of their own and always looking to get other people into trouble. Part of their way.
About the texting, oh so true! You have to have time for her but not vice-versa.
I find the best strategy is to be aloof. The only person I need in my life is me and that way I can eliminate any awkwardness or worry.
There are millions of men sailing on same boat... lol
If you advise them, they think you are dominating, and if you dont then you are not doing anything., hahah If you agree to all their likes, you are sweet..if u dont, you are not understanding. :) If they ask u anything, its their right & if u do the same, you are interfering. If they care, they love you....and if you do, you are possessive.
Independent, taking care about their own space, having their own plans and life, caring, often jealous, understanding, flexible, naive - these ones who are overromantic, demanding, sometimes wicked, if necessary, ambitious. Some like challenges, some have high expectations, for sure very often good partners and good lovers.
Oh, difficult to understand because men don't listen to them. If they do, they don't often know what the women really wants to say.
If people are open to each other and their need, desires, whatever, dreams, etc, the relation might be built in a quite fascinating way. But, really, the two worlds, males and females are so different that saying anything in general does not make a big sense. Life shows truth about people's relations.
You may. Based on observations, exchanging experiences with people, womens gossiping, mens gossiping, opportunities of getting sexy lingerie and sexy clothes everywhere, fantasies, erotic films, aphrodisiacs, food and so on.
:D Arranging a scenery to follow fantasies and dreams is fine, but of course we won't go to far, will we?
I don't think those sex places are that popular. That's just based on a hunch mind you but I think they are more about making a woman feel better about herself than anything else.
