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I am speculating of moving back to Warsaw, but very carefully....


artek  1 | 2  
14 Mar 2011 /  #1
Before you read this, please have some experience in the matter, If you are a hairstylist who either moved back or lives in Warsaw or you know of someone who has a similar experience, I'd love to know of how you/them are doing...

I realize that Poland is a hit and miss place...I am not being naive about moving back. I realize that most people would not make that change, that it is a good place to visit but not to thrive day to day.

However, this does not negate the fact that I do want to try and make that change.
I am a hairstylist for a nice salon in US, I have been enjoying the trade for about 8 years, I moved to US fr. Poland when I was 14, I am 38 now. I have strong ties to Poland, I speak both languages extremely fluently, I do travel to Poland at least once per year. My family is Polish, matter of fact my father just moved back to Poland and retired.

Does anyone have any ideas, perhaps constructive critisism on this matter...
Also, I do realize that everyone has a diff. job or trade. So, not everyone will be able to relate to this.
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JonnyM  11 | 2607  
14 Mar 2011 /  #2
Remember that you'll need a lot of customers to cover the cost of premises - and there are a lot of hairdressers in Warsaw. Maybe a market for one who advertises as English speaking?
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Mar 2011 /  #3
Hairdressers in Poland are just another of those saturated markets IMO, every bugger and their dog seems to be doing it. Its similar with butchers, grocery stores, nieruchomosci agents, advocates, ive never known so many of the same businesses to operate a stones throw from each other and still make a profit. In my area stone masons are everywhere, marble, sand stone, grave stones etc.. there are probably 100 dealers within a 5 mile radius all doing exactly the same thing.

5 zloty shops for example! they were making a killing when they first started, all that cheap crap they sold absolutely perfect for buying a junk gift for what ever reason. One owner of a 5 zloty shop buys a new car or house and all of a sudden another 4 open up in the same town.
poland_  
14 Mar 2011 /  #4
I am a hairstylist for a nice salon in US, I have been enjoying the trade for about 8 years

There has been a number of French ( Jean Louis David ) and Spanish ( Moreno's) salons that have opened up and they seem to be doing ok. Why not ask your employers if they would like to set up in PL, it is always better to work with other peoples money than your own.

American Franchise in PL, why not?
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Mar 2011 /  #5
There has been a number of French ( Jean Louis David ) and Spanish ( Moreno's) salons that have opened up and they seem to be doing ok.

In other words brand names with stylists that dont really have a clue what their doing, reputation is key in Poland, its easy to beat the competition with the right customer approach.
poland_  
14 Mar 2011 /  #6
I don't know about your area WB, here in Warsaw, the world of " brands" is alive and kicking. They are still young to it and it is a place of must haves. ( yuppies)
Wroclaw Boy  
15 Mar 2011 /  #7
The point being: brand names such as the above mentioned salon make good money, the reality is they employ students that arent time served in the salon industry and charge lots of money for poor service. These employees often go on to make great hair stylists.

You get the same cheese burger from McDonalds where ever you are, thats company policy the same cant be said for fancy salons.
OP artek  1 | 2  
21 Mar 2011 /  #8
Fair enough about looking for a chain salon, but Wroclaw Boy is right, they employ cheap help right out of school.
I had some interviews just last easter when I was back home with my girl in warsaw, I actually went to Jean Louis David and Jaques de champs or something like that...They have quoted me 1800 zloty per month with of course raise once I gather the clientele..hm hm well ok....I understand that I have to be humble about the whole situation but true, seems in Warsaw the chains don't work as well as reputation, but as an english speaking all around skilled hairdresser, does one have a chance or even a one up on the young students?...

Remember that you'll need a lot of customers to cover the cost of premises - and there are a lot of hairdressers in Warsaw. Maybe a market for one who advertises as English speaking?

Could anyone living in Warsaw quote on JonnyM's idea....Could that help a new hairstylist to cater towards clientele and in the long run work out the prestige?....I realize that in Warsaw Polish speak more and more in english these days so it's not such a big deal...The more and more I read about moving to Warsaw, the more it's seems like a headache, but I am not bugged down on it yet....

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