Polish pretense - what's the deal?

I have experience of the Polish food sector.

I don't go to malls for pointless products. If I go to a mall it is for convenience, as everything is under one roof. If I am buying big ticket items I would normally check at ceneo.pl/.

Life is too short for me to walk a mile to save a PLZ, I would much prefer to put that effort into my day Job as it is more rewarding financially.

You are the one who needs to explain why you are hanging out in malls stalking Poles and other people from all walks of life as they buy products you assume are pointless.

You sound like one of those two-faced anti-capitalist extremists who without exception always come from a solid middle class background but who absolutely resents the progress made by others and would love nothing more than to impose a Year Zero terror regime on everybody (except themselves of course).

xDDDDD

Omg, Coca Cola brand is a "Middle Class marker"?? ;D Activia, KitKat, TOAST O_O, baguette... baby foods??? ;D
Dude, you're hilarious :D


Oh yes, because buying soda drinks, sweets, pastry and food for babies has nothing to do with buying actual food xD
You are so weird...


Creepy!

Bieganski, allow me to put fact to this thread, you are 100% correct there are British,Irish and Americans in Poland existing on hand to mouth lifestyle. There are also a new wave of Britsh/Irish/America//Polish couples arriving in Poland now, in search of a better lifestyle due to the financial crisis.The motivation normally comes down to everything is less expensive in Poland/opportunity.

There are also British/Irish and Americans in Poland today who have amassed more wealth than they could have forecasted 10 or 20 years ago, it was all about timing/opportunity/pioneering spirit and having foresight. No shame or guilt here, although if you are Polish thank you for the opportunity.


Envyme, Allow me to profile you. You are a Pakistani or Indian shopkeeper - I am not a gambler in this instance I would bet money I am 100% correct. Furthermore you will also deny the fact in your next post. No normal person would use the nick Envy-Me...

Agreed. "Middle Class Markers"? Definitely creepy......

Bieganski, I just go to the supermarket to buy food. It was just an observation.

And what do the Poles that you so closely scrutinize go to the supermarket to buy? Besides useless stuff that you mentioned, like "baby food". I mean who buys baby food? Except for every parent, EVER.

Polish members, you're butthurt because I'm dissing your Middle Class markers.

Are you perchance a Management and Marketing student?

No, because you're being falsely obsequious to the facts, then making repugnant characterizations based on nothing other than your pre-determined biases. I'm no Polish, and I find you smarmy and offensive. My wife doesn't buy most of the things you mention, but out of personal taste, not social identification. You're enjoying being the center of other people's ire, are you? How about your press yourself into making deliberate attempts at learning something about the tastes and habits of the Polish people, without deciphering it accorded to your ad hoc code of cultural mores? Here's a pro tip: If you don't want people that you're here to judge them against a foreigner's standard, don't call yourself "Envy-Me". The joke has run out of funny, man. And that's coming from the bad taste you're leaving in my mouth, nut the "hurt in my butt, as you were so classy in describing it. Your broad attacks have earned you your attention. Now, why don't you move along, before the mods get as restless as the rest of these good people.

It's just one of those useless products that people buy to show they can afford Western stuff. Since when did people start buying baby food in Poland? Haven't people been mashing regular food up until like 1992? Next you're going to tell me that "everyone" buys Nike shoes.

I'm just telling you my observations and saying that it's bizarre to strive to be Western. I've lived in the West for a long time and I know they're not missing anything.

OK so we (wife and I) went shopping yesterday in 'Auchan' Rszesow, we bought 12 x 4ltr bottles of blue bubble bath, 2 large steaks, 3 x DVDs 3 x 5ltr washing up liquid......we then drove to the millenium hall, did a bit of 'window shopping' had a bargain bucket KFC between us....and then a fancy yoghurt as 'afters'.....drove home the back way through the countryside (along muddy/ ice covered forest tracks) totally forgot to fill up with diesel???whilst at Auchan where diesel is cheaper. OK so what does that say about us? (yep one of us likes bubbles!! and we aint talkin chimp!!)

Are you answering my question?

Since it was available.And it was available even before 1989.Anybody here remembers Bobofrut? If my memory serves me right HUMANA brand baby food was available before 1989 too.

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As well as BEBIKO baby formula. You had to have special coupons to be able to buy it during the Martial Law.

But yeah - up until at least 1992, all Polish mother breastfed and later spent all their daylight hours mashing up food for their babies. They also produced wooden toys and wove cloth for nappies.

I am sure you already know all the answers.

Yes.


No.


They don't.


Please do not generalize, your gf is not "women".

The baby food thing is way more interesting than anything the OP could have intended to come from this thread. When my daughter was still on jarred baby food (which EVERYONE uses here, Envyme, and HAS for a long time), she was voracious in her consumption of the jars of fish. In America, there aren't ANY jarred baby food made of fish, so I thought that was an odd cultural difference, right there. Okay, you can go back to making slimy assumptions that are rooted in either poor observational skills or lack of character, now.

I think you're a mall guy. Maybe you can tell us why you hang out at the mall?

I haven't "hung out" at the mall since I was 16. I GO to the mall because they have the highest concentration of stores that offer the widest array of goods and services in exchange for cash and credit. A reason I think applies to most consumers in most countries. Except for perhaps yourself, whom enjoys surreptitiously spying on Polish mall-goers then making outlandish claims about their search for Western acceptance according to the purchases they make. I think my rationale and those of my fellow shoppers is much more mentally sound.

Er....excuse me......I,m trying to be more Eastern......I drive a car made in Ulyanovsk (893 kilometers EAST of Moscow - birthplace of Vladimir Lenin no less) can,t get much more eastern than that and still be in Europe!!!!!!! (I thought this thread needed a little humour) oh and I hang out at the mall....lots of pretty girls to look at!!!

Jasondmzk,
It's 2013. Normal people shop their stuff on the Internet. Nobody wants to go and shop at a mall together with lots of other people. Unless they're there to buy food because there's no home delivery, there's no reason to go to a mall. Especially not for a man.

At first, my reaction to this was outrage and disbelief. Then I thought about it, and I became a little sad for you. You should hereby change your name to Pityme.

Is that why they're all deserted of people with tumbleweed blowing through and no new ones opening?

I have to say this......Malls here (and yes there are three that I know of in Rszesow) are a revelation after Malls in the UK!!! I love the Malls here, the ones in UK are crowded with harrassed parents with screaming children and every one of them is packed shoulder to shoulder with people....here in this place the Malls are almost empty most days, even weekends you could not say that they are crowded. God knows how these stores make a profit, they have a lot of staf stood around doing nothing, but like I said that is just how I like it....it almost feels like I have a mall all to myself sometimes and yes some guys do like to trawl the malls, I like to see people. (But not as many as in the Malls UK side)

Are you living in Rzeszów? Which mall are you talking about? Krakowiak? Frac, Real, Tesco, Leclerk, Biedronka, Lidl? Alma?

Off the top of my head, Galeria Graffica, Galeria Rzeszow, Pasaz Rzeszow, Rzeszow Plaza. I'd expect there are more, given the way the Polish retail market is moving but those are the ones I've read about recently.

Jasondmzk,
Then I can't imagine how you will react if I tell you that Miami Vice is no longer the number one television show in America.

This mod does not want to see this turning into a pi$$ing contest. Relax folks.

Smaller Mall where Auchan is, then we usually go to Millenium Hall or Galeria Rszesow.....Millenium and Galeria are both modern clean, with good shops and places to eat etc.....but like I said, compared to UK....more than half empty, just never get that crowded feeling. (which as I said....I like) We sometimes roll into Tesco or Le Clerc and the Mall next/above/around it. Still finding new malls to hang out in.

Additional: One reason I have found out for Malls here being empty......No Young People!!! (that is no/very few young people meeting and hanging out together) I have asked teenagers in this village = girls 13-17 age group - the kind of age they would hang out in Malls in UK and I get the answers A. Mothers will not let them go alone, B. can,t afford to bus in to the big town, C. No mental conception of window shopping and hanging out, D. The priest wouldn,t like it and preaches against it!!! (I made that one up but this is the 'Pod' and you can guess it is true) E. a couple of them suggested that 'security' in the Malls would not allow them to hang out without parents. I have seen young people in the Malls, not many, but probably 'townies. In conclusion there are nowhere near the levels of young people hanging out together in the Malls as there are in UK and USA. It is sad not to be surrounded by the laughter of young people having fun, when in the Malls and the loss is that of the Youth of these areas, I am sure things will slowly change, but in the meantime it keeps the Malls empty for people like me.

If the priest has seen Galerianki, it's very easy to imagine him doing just that.