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Mr Grunwald 33 | 2188  
6 Nov 2010 /  #271
what would not exist?

the fear

Why not if it is a means to highlight certain injustices?

I am half Polish, I am being discriminated! I am a man I am being discriminated in this feminist country! COME ON!!! There is something one should do, and not do!

Crybabies...
convex 20 | 3928  
6 Nov 2010 /  #272
Lol. They exist. I had a gay friend who was more of a Rightie than even me. Really! He got run over by a car and died. :(
But, much like non-terrorist Muslims have been too quiet in condemning their terrorist Muslim brethren, so too have decent gay folks at condemning these over-the-top flaming homo terrorists of decent society. (my buddy hated them, btw)

Right, and most gays and Muslims that I've come across hold the same feelings. On the other hand, I don't see Christians out en masse against Pastor Phelps or Eric Rudolph.

Exactly wrong. It is indeed a concerted effort on the part of the gay-sympathetic Liberals who control Hollywood to normalize gay to the masses. They force feed us this stuff; the market never asked for it. Propaganda. It's more Commie than Capitalist.

No one controls Hollywood. Newscorp isn't exactly owned by a "Leftie Liberal".

Lets put this to the test:

Viacom - Sumner Redstone - endorsed Bush, and a couple of local dems
Newscorp - Rupert Murdoch and a Saudi Prince - no more needs to be said on that
Time Warner - Jeffrey Bewkes - distributes cash evenly...
Sony - Some Rich Japanese Guy - distributes cash to whoever is willing to take it
Disney - Eisner was a Republican, Iger is a Republican.
GE/NBC - yea, General Electric is a hardcore Dem stronghold.

Which liberal media are you talking about exactly?

Yes and rightly so - but how often are they prevented from marching?

Often actually. Quite a few are denied here.
zetigrek  
6 Nov 2010 /  #273
Of course this is the conclusion at which pro-gay propagandists would arrive.

I read it different way. It gives the homophobes really great argument to excuse their homophobia. The biggest allegation of homophobes is that gay right movement is promoting homosexualism creating by the way some kind of libertine fashion which can affect teens. That statement would be a nonsense if we say that people bore with their orientation. But if we say that 95% of people have some hidden homosexual tendences (are bisexual) then it makes homophobes right that there can come some fashion for it, making homoseuaxlism or bisexualism wide spread or even dominating.

There is no longer such thing as objective documentaries; now it's all about arriving at preconceived conclusions and advancing an agenda under the guise of investigative film journalism.

why you just don't watch it? It would give you one even stronger argument. In this movie there is Jonathan Caouette's 11 year old son.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Caouette
He says very intresting things...
pammycat - | 16  
6 Nov 2010 /  #274
forcing decent folks to have to explain that mess to their young children, this is when gay become the problem, the injustice which needs correcting.

As long as gays are marginalised by the right, they will do that. All power to them!

we ever see such displays from heteros

Turned on the TV lately?

All part of the plan to normalize perversion.

What plan is that? And what's perversion. In some states pre-marital sex is illegal - does that make it perversion?
zetigrek  
6 Nov 2010 /  #275
What law have gay marchers broken? The ones in your pics probably sail very close to public decency laws but I'd rather my kids see that than someone pummelled unconscious.

Actually it's almost like agreeing for a march of stripteasers.

WHO HAS WATCHED THE MOVIE and wanna disccuss not only slam trener żółwia??
A J 4 | 1075  
6 Nov 2010 /  #276
I'll buy him a whole case of Grolsch when I'll be in Holland :-)

A whole case? Wow! Thank you so much! (But what's the catch I wonder?)
Teffle 22 | 1318  
7 Nov 2010 /  #277
WHO HAS WATCHED THE MOVIE

OK - I'll watch the bloody movie!

(But I still think people are over reacting - near nudity or not)
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
7 Nov 2010 /  #278
Good movie to watch.... "The wind that shakes the barley". Sad but very very good film.
Ironside 50 | 12338  
7 Nov 2010 /  #279
"The wind that shakes the barley".

commies
zetigrek  
7 Nov 2010 /  #280
"The wind that shakes the barley". Sad but very very good film.

Oh, I watched half of it few months ago. The second half is still waiting for me... ;)

OK - I'll watch the bloody movie!

I mean if you don't have time maybe it's not worth it. Just that boy was... hmmm... his parents were weird...
Marynka11 3 | 639  
7 Nov 2010 /  #281
I think that less arrogance and less demands from European women will mean more European babies. Simple.

Please do not put the blame on women. If anything it's the sick European individualism that's brings people to search for new experiences, self fulfillment and the market that caters to that. Why would man or woman go into the hassle of raising a family (and it's a hard thing, I know that) if they can be entertained.
convex 20 | 3928  
7 Nov 2010 /  #282
sick European individualism

That's a great quote. As opposed to say, Soviet collectivism?

Anyway, unemployment numbers, overburdened public services, and housing costs tell us that there are too many people already. Maybe not procreating is a good thing.
jonni 16 | 2475  
7 Nov 2010 /  #283
Why would man or woman go into the hassle of raising a family (and it's a hard thing, I know that) if they can be entertained.

Not all of us are the marrying kind, Duckie. Unless we want to make a spouse's life miserable, that is.

So instead of searching

for new experiences, self fulfillment and the market that caters to that

, why not just think of it as being honest with oneself and others and making the very, very best of the interesting hand nature has dealt us!
Marynka11 3 | 639  
7 Nov 2010 /  #284
It's the honest approach and bow to you for admitting what's true for you. But then we should not cry when we are old that there are not enough workers to pay into the pension fund. I don't think individualism is that bad. It just does not make European societies sustainable.

Though I read you post again and now I'm not sure what you meant. So if I'm off the point please tell me I'm off.
jonni 16 | 2475  
7 Nov 2010 /  #285
But then we should not cry when we are old that there are not enough workers to pay into the pension fund. I don't think individualism is that bad. It just does not make European societies sustainable.

This is very true. Most of my friends are educated professional people and they have at most one or two children - a demographic disaster!
convex 20 | 3928  
7 Nov 2010 /  #286
But then we should not cry when we are old that there are not enough workers to pay into the pension fund. I don't think individualism is that bad. It just does not make European societies sustainable.

Maybe it will allow governments the opportunity to correct these Ponzi schemes.

Supporting a retirement that isn't viable unless there are new workers isn't a good reason to ostracize homosexuals.
trener zolwia 1 | 939  
7 Nov 2010 /  #287
Marynka11:
sick European individualism
That's a great quote. As opposed to say, Soviet collectivism?

Yeah, what's that about?? :s

I don't see Christians out en masse against Pastor Phelps or Eric Rudolph.

Absurd. A couple of rogue individuals hardly compares.

No one controls Hollywood.

Oh, come on. It isn't my opinion that LibCommies rule Hollywood with an iron fist and abuse their holdings to spread their Commie (and pro-gay/ black, etc) propagana; it is commonly understood as being so. Senator Joe McCarthy has been fully vindicated.

If you are not familiar with this then I suggest you become more informed before any further discussion.

Which liberal media are you talking about exactly?

Same thing here as above. The Liberal one that everyone is always bemoaning. Hardly new.

And your political donations mean little to nothing. For example, the American Left Liberals constantly are attacking Christianity, and yet Catholics reliably vote with them when they vote Dem. Same for Jews here. The Rad Lefties are anti-Israel but our Jews reliably vote Dem anyway. Things don't always make sense. ...and peeps sometimes vote against, and corps make political contributions against, their own interests.

Supporting a retirement that isn't viable unless there are new workers isn't a good reason to ostracize homosexuals.

But it is a legit point that gays aren't adding to the replacement population.
convex 20 | 3928  
7 Nov 2010 /  #288
Absurd. A couple of rogue individuals hardly compares.

Sure it does. The idea that that's how gay people act is equally absurd. Small minority.

Oh, come on. It isn't my opinion that LibCommies rule Hollywood with an iron fist; it is commonly understood as being so. If you are not familiar with this then I suggest you become more informed before any further discussion.

I already posted who owns the major studios in Hollywood and their political associations.

And your political donations mean little to nothing.

It's not only their donations but their activism. Usually political donations are a good indication as to political leanings. Do you donate to politicians supporting gay rights? Probably not...
guesswho 4 | 1272  
7 Nov 2010 /  #289
But it is a legit point that gays aren't adding to the replacement population

It's more than legit, it's obvious.
trener zolwia 1 | 939  
7 Nov 2010 /  #290
The idea that that's how gay people act is equally absurd. Small minority.

The militant gay activists have a much larger voice. This is thanks to the Liberal Media and Entertainment industries...

I already posted who owns the major studios in Hollywood and their political associations.

You need to learn more about Hollywood. They have a new Black List under which Righties have difficulty even getting their movies made. If one doesn't tow the prescribed Lib Line they are ostracized.

And maybe try actually watching some movies sometime with someone who can point out for you the Liberal messaging in the majority of their offerings anymore.

This is an absurd conversation to even be having.

Usually political donations are a good indication as to political leanings.

And I just showed you how sometimes peeps and corps work against their own interests. And often corps will try to cover their bases in an effort to win favor should the other side seize power.

Do you donate to politicians supporting gay rights? Probably not...

Why would I support that hokum? They already enjoy the very same rights as me. The rest is nothing more than unreasonable militant minority demands.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
7 Nov 2010 /  #291
The militant gay activists have a much larger voice.

What The Bejesus!!!!!!!! militant gay activists???!!!! With Guns??????!!!!! surely not :D
trener zolwia 1 | 939  
7 Nov 2010 /  #292
militant gay activists???!!!!

Well, here's their mantra. Any of it sound familiar?...

"We shall sodomize your sons, the emblems of your feeble masculinity of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups and in your movie theatre bathrooms, in your army bunk housein your truck stops, in your all male clubs and in your houses of Congress, wherever men are men together. Your sons will become the puppets of our bidding." [...]

theforbiddenknowledge
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
7 Nov 2010 /  #293
Well, here's their mantra. Any of it sound familiar?...

Aye but this is from a lesbian who probably misses a bit of di(k...
edit: and on the blob.
guesswho 4 | 1272  
7 Nov 2010 /  #294
it could be anything by anyone just like it could be anything by anyone when you guys post your pro gay stuff.

You guys want us to be tolerant toward gays but at the same time, you don't show any tolerance toward people who don't feel the same way as you.

It's almost scary for many people to openly admit that one doesn't like gays because the person will be attacked by whole bunch of intolerant gays and pro gays.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
7 Nov 2010 /  #295
it could be anything by anyone just like it could be anything by anyone when you guys post your pro gay stuff.

Pro gay, anti gay, couldnt really give a toss. I just lead my life without having the need to put my nose into the bedroom activities of others...
guesswho 4 | 1272  
7 Nov 2010 /  #296
No one would probably ever stick his nose in other people bedrooms if it was always happening in the bedrooms.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
7 Nov 2010 /  #297
Why would anyone want to anyway?
trener zolwia 1 | 939  
7 Nov 2010 /  #298
You guys want us to be tolerant toward gays but at the same time, you don't show any tolerance toward people who don't feel the same way

The pro-gay Left is maybe the most intolerant crowd around. Ugly stuff.

scary for many people to openly admit that one doesn't like gays because the person will be attacked by whole bunch of intolerant gays and pro gays.

You know we're living in Crazy Backwards Liberal World when gay is the new normal and decent folks who disagree with that are seen as the ones with the problem. God banished from public but Gay in schools is just fine and dandy... Crazy.

really give a toss. I just lead my life without having the need to put my nose into the bedroom activities of others...

That's kinda how I feel and it would all be fine if that were the extent of it. It's not. Not by far. Look at that mantra. Ugly, ugly, hateful stuff. The larger Gay Movement is not just about 'being free to love who we want and equal rights blahblah'. Not by far.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
7 Nov 2010 /  #299
Look at that mantra. Ugly, ugly, hateful stuff.

You can find that kinda mantra for almost any section of society though.
guesswho 4 | 1272  
7 Nov 2010 /  #300
yep but we're talking about gays right now.

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