The rising costs of food and fuel in Poland and the effects on disposable income/economy

Come on Harry tell the truth!!!!

please, don't flame.

I just did Mark. Unlike you I was smart enough to buy a place to live in within a few years of moving to Poland, i.e. as soon as I realised I wanted to stay here for more than a few years. So while you have been giving your money away every month to a landlord who no doubt you hate, I’ve been paying interest to the bank, right up until the point at which the loan was paid off and I owed the flat without any debt on (which I still do). Of course there is a difference between us: I work hard every day and don’t just sponge off somebody.

[quote=milky]How! can Polish people afford to put petrol in their cars, especially if they have a 30-60 km drive to work.
stick to topic please

There's the key Mark: "to work". They work, so they can afford things like petrol and flats; you don't work so you can't and can't understand how other people can.

Well, some workers in Poland are leaving their jobs because the petrol bill is too high so..................

Source, maybe?

I cannot imagine that people give up their job because of high petrol prices. The only thing they are likely to do is use a different means of transport to get to work, but to hand in their notice ... that would be the most stupid thing to do.

Incidentally, is that the reason why you are at home?

I cycle to work and use public transport.

high petrol prices? just spend 50zl, you won't notice that you will get less litres than normal.

No you don't Mark: you walk from the bedroom to the living room to get to 'work'.


It's not like you can afford a car, what with the two of you living on Kasia's salary.

they can't - that's why so mamy Polish people work abroad and at the same time you see rising unemployment in Poland

Thanks, at last an answer.Hard to get one here.

no, You were given many answers just not the once You were looking for.

Well I like to hear the point of view of people who are not simply pushing positive information about the Polish economy, so as to keep the property bubble inflated. I was just talking to a guy outside Lublin who is just back from 8 years in Ireland and he is now working for 7 zloty an hour. This kind of reality is not represented here as a bunch of Brits have hijacked the site. I'm just looking for a balanced view, maybe eventually the Poles will come on board here and defend the reality of THEIR country......

There is none ... it has been shown again and again on this forum.

Stop telling lies. It's getting irritating.

exactly lol

Nor anywhere else, except for the sites you frequent and where "you leave your Mark"... :S

No pun intended ... :D.

That is interesting, legal minimum wage is 1386zl per month but your supposed interlocutor earns 1092zl per month. What do we think board, has Mark just been caught lying yet again?


You mean the reality in which people who don't bother to work and just send their wives out to work can't afford to purchase flats?


The best is when he posts identical posts elsewhere and here but under different usernames!

1386zl brutto = ab. 984zł netto.

No, you are not. Vitually everyone has disagreed with you as you have not provided any links or proof with regard to the property situation here in Poland. The first request fo you to substanciate your statements and you disappear for a week, only to come back and spout the same rubbish. You have lied and used so many alias's on here that anyone with a limited amount of intelligence would never take your posts seriously.

I honestly cannot figure out why you bother with Polish forums, your hatred of anyone that disagrees with you and the constant spamming, negates any discussions about real estate. Some of the people moving to this country might like to receive genuine information about buying or renting, yet all you do is come out with ridiculous figures and assumptions which have no bearing on what is really happening here. Where is the price crash?, where is the bubble?, why are developers still building? Why have you not got a job yet?

I don't think the hatred comes from me.......
I'm sure there are people who just couldn't be bothered debating with the click of clowns on here.
Anyway the price of petrol eh....

Well, the wise people don't give up on the job, they are just:
- going together - with a car you can split the cost by four...
- or use public transport...

anyway, so far it not a big issue... it was noticed, accepted and adapted... sun rises and sun sets and petrol prices fluctuate.. why make so much fuss about it? are you going to declare war against USA to stop them from printing $? anyway, there is already to many cars in Polish cities, every single occupied car in a traffic jam makes me think let the oil price jump even more ;)

and the sun is warm and water is wet and blal blal bla whats you're point?

You are the one who mentioned property in this thread..........forgotten already?

Here is petrol price comparison in Poland and across Europe from Ireland. And it says apart from Slovenia, Latvia and Estonia, Poland has the cheapest petrol although not by much.

my point is that:


You seem to be somehow surprised by that, most people don't, they adapt till the move is not huge. By how much price of petrol changed in last couple of years? 20 - 30%? a lot, but not the end of the world...

already agreed part of the deal that was signed in 2008 can possibly raise Polish electricity prices by 100 per cent before 2020 (and the goals are still unrealistic for Poland because there is no way we can have 20 per cent of our energy from renewable sources in this economic climate) - the electiricity bills will start rising already next year and it's gonna be drastic (like 40-50 per cent)

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So how will this be digested>

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Fuel prices to increase by 25gr/litre - Hard Working Polish Families Hit Hard

In yet another example of a "Good Change", PiS have decide to hit hard working families right where it hurts - with a 25gr/litre increase in the price of fuel. This means that the poorest in society, who often live in places without public transport, will now face additional taxes to go to work, to school, etc. 25gr/litre is equal to 10zł on every tank of fuel. Those living in rural areas are often paying the higher prices for fuel as it is, and PiS are hurting those people most of all.

biznes.onet.pl/wiadomosci/kraj/oplata-paliwowa-w-gore-ceny-paliw-tez/w0ct7d

The fact that they are rushing this measure into place during the summer holidays so that hard working families can be additionally taxed on their way to their holidays says it all. The only "Good Change" here is the one that saw party loyalists rewarded with high salaries and official cars that they can use for private business without being taxed.