I have a son who's half Polish and I like the idea of him growing up in a society that's new and exciting and on the up. I'll be staying in Warsaw. I miss Ireland but its not far away.
Reasons for moving to Poland
hello seanBM ;) yes i'm hoping to move in 3 month's to poland.
this time i hope it works out for me
this time i hope it works out for me
Hello Shelly,
Well at least this time you know what to expect, which gives you a good advantage.
And in three months, when it is warmer, the move will be easier.
I know it has been snowing in Ireland but it is colder here for a longer period and preparation is important to get through winter, well for me anyway.
Are you gonna move to a bigger city?
I think it is easier for the beginning to live in bigger cities, people speak more English and there is generally more socialising to do.
Good luck.
Well at least this time you know what to expect, which gives you a good advantage.
And in three months, when it is warmer, the move will be easier.
I know it has been snowing in Ireland but it is colder here for a longer period and preparation is important to get through winter, well for me anyway.
Are you gonna move to a bigger city?
I think it is easier for the beginning to live in bigger cities, people speak more English and there is generally more socialising to do.
Good luck.
I think a reason to move to Poland is to admire the polish bison.
yep i'm hoping to move to gdansk or another biger city? i'm doing a course in galway university TEFL i dont know will it be longer or what but as i said i'm hoping to move within 3,4 month's. if i get a job. Anyway how are you keeping?
yep i'm hoping to move to gdansk or another biger city?
Good idea.
i'm doing a course in galway university TEFL i dont know will it be longer or what but as i said i'm hoping to move within 3,4 month's.
There are different length T.E.F.L. courses that you can do but they only take about a month at longest.
That is with teacher training hours, which I recommend because the students are there for free, it gives you the chance to teach and make mistakes and get used to about 20 people looking at you.
I do not know if you can get a job here with only the T.E.F.L it is a start. Maybe someone who knows more about teaching here can offer advice?
Anyway how are you keeping?
Grand, it's cold enough :) but I still enjoy living here. Although I am planning to move to a different part of Poland in a bit with work but it is all good in the hood :)
considering:
news-poland.com/result/news/id/3849
Temperatures of -31 degrees in Poland in January 2010 are normal...
and
google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iuijzpNUXxZjS0-3IWWyy5iwB yNg
As temperatures plunged to minus 25 degrees Celsius (minus 13 Fahrenheit) in Poland at the start of the year, the number of cold-related deaths rose to 122 so far this winter, police said.
to move to Poland is a gesture of pure and suicidal stupidity
news-poland.com/result/news/id/3849
Temperatures of -31 degrees in Poland in January 2010 are normal...
and
google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iuijzpNUXxZjS0-3IWWyy5iwB yNg
As temperatures plunged to minus 25 degrees Celsius (minus 13 Fahrenheit) in Poland at the start of the year, the number of cold-related deaths rose to 122 so far this winter, police said.
to move to Poland is a gesture of pure and suicidal stupidity
Bzibzioh
22 Jan 2010 / #248
Temperatures of -31 degrees in Poland in January 2010 are normal...
The title of the article you mentioned said "Record-breaking freezing weather in Poland: -31 degrees of frost" so why are you exaggerating?
to move to Poland is a gesture of pure and suicidal stupidity
Drama queen much?
I am afraid this kind of temperatures are quite normal. Not common, but on the other hand - nothing unusual.
Oh no, it's not that cold.
Oh wait...
unless you mean outside?
Oh wait...
unless you mean outside?
sister act 2 | 88
24 Jan 2010 / #251
hello seanBM ;) yes i'm hoping to move in 3 month's to poland.
this time i hope it works out for me
this time i hope it works out for me
Just wondering what happen last time you gave poland a go, I am just trying to find out what to expect. For my move
All the answers to you questions about Shelly are on this thread, start at page 2 and just read through it.
When you enter a shop or train carriage - everyone says, "good day" -
and when you leave, everyone says, "goodbye/see you" :)
I was in Poland when it was -27. Never had so much fun in my life! I walked on a frozen Baltic sea! Was kept very warm by beautiful local girls by roaring fires in quaint dark bars until 5am. Buses, trains and cars were all working normally. Every 10 minutes we had to pop into a shop to warm up - otherwise we would have frozen. "Can I help you sir?" - "Oh - just looking". The inside of your nose freezes - and feels weird. The people are warmer - when it's colder :)
and when you leave, everyone says, "goodbye/see you" :)
Temperatures of -31 degrees in Poland in January 2010 are normal...
I was in Poland when it was -27. Never had so much fun in my life! I walked on a frozen Baltic sea! Was kept very warm by beautiful local girls by roaring fires in quaint dark bars until 5am. Buses, trains and cars were all working normally. Every 10 minutes we had to pop into a shop to warm up - otherwise we would have frozen. "Can I help you sir?" - "Oh - just looking". The inside of your nose freezes - and feels weird. The people are warmer - when it's colder :)
ok thanks
Blackriven
2 Feb 2010 / #255
I want to move to Poland, but it will be very expensive for our family to move. We are in NZ.
Why would we want to leave NZ (what some people regard as paradise) for Poland?
1. Family - my fiance's family live in Poland, so far our 2 year old son has not had the opportunity to meet any of them.
2. Education - NZ's education system is expensive and low quality compared to the education available in Poland.
3. Language - I will finally be able to learn Polish properly, in NZ it is really hard to find resources to assist in learning Polish (both for me and my son) being surrounded by the language I found it easier to learn.
4. Jobs - I've always wanted to teach English, it's really hard here to find good courses in TESOL that don't cost the earth. My fiance has better job prospects now too, due to his close friends now being in positions that they can help him to find a job.
5. Location - NZ is literally at the arse end of the world. It costs us a lot of money to get to anywhere substantial to visit or do anything really. (Australia doesn't count :P) Poland is so centralised we can go see so many things. Weekend trips to Rome or France etc. Weekend trips from NZ are impossible, you'd just get there then it would be time to come back.
6. Vodka - Generally it's nicer. The alcohol taxes are lower in Poland (and Czech, which will be only 2 hours drive from where we'll likely be living). A bottle of Zubrowka costs a minimum (for 750ml) $50NZD which is roughly (using today's exchange rate) 101.35ZL.
7. Public Transport - Until I went to Poland I really didn't know the meaning of decent public transport. Wellington, NZ mostly has it right but not quite. When I was in Poland I could get anywhere I wanted cheaply and easily (even to out of the way places tourists wouldn't go).
So what's holding us back? Well we've both been unemployed now for more than 6 months, so money is tight. In order to move it will cost us a lot to transport our furniture. Airfares alone are $3000+NZD per person to fly to Poland. Still it's a dream... hopefully one day...
Why would we want to leave NZ (what some people regard as paradise) for Poland?
1. Family - my fiance's family live in Poland, so far our 2 year old son has not had the opportunity to meet any of them.
2. Education - NZ's education system is expensive and low quality compared to the education available in Poland.
3. Language - I will finally be able to learn Polish properly, in NZ it is really hard to find resources to assist in learning Polish (both for me and my son) being surrounded by the language I found it easier to learn.
4. Jobs - I've always wanted to teach English, it's really hard here to find good courses in TESOL that don't cost the earth. My fiance has better job prospects now too, due to his close friends now being in positions that they can help him to find a job.
5. Location - NZ is literally at the arse end of the world. It costs us a lot of money to get to anywhere substantial to visit or do anything really. (Australia doesn't count :P) Poland is so centralised we can go see so many things. Weekend trips to Rome or France etc. Weekend trips from NZ are impossible, you'd just get there then it would be time to come back.
6. Vodka - Generally it's nicer. The alcohol taxes are lower in Poland (and Czech, which will be only 2 hours drive from where we'll likely be living). A bottle of Zubrowka costs a minimum (for 750ml) $50NZD which is roughly (using today's exchange rate) 101.35ZL.
7. Public Transport - Until I went to Poland I really didn't know the meaning of decent public transport. Wellington, NZ mostly has it right but not quite. When I was in Poland I could get anywhere I wanted cheaply and easily (even to out of the way places tourists wouldn't go).
So what's holding us back? Well we've both been unemployed now for more than 6 months, so money is tight. In order to move it will cost us a lot to transport our furniture. Airfares alone are $3000+NZD per person to fly to Poland. Still it's a dream... hopefully one day...
1. beautiful women
2. goood Polish beer
2. goood Polish beer
You had me at 1, and solidified with 2. My two favorite loves of my life. That's not sad is it?
it will cost us a lot to transport our furniture.
Don,t transport anything you can buy in Poland...just take the essentials..sell everything else....
love and sweet polish girls
akzm
9 Apr 2010 / #259
because my boyfriend is polish <3
paparacci6 - | 5
9 Apr 2010 / #260
LOve i'm a foreign and i've pole boyfriend,is too hard relation by far way,i would like move in poland but i worry to find any job to live there normal :(
jarekp
7 Mar 2011 / #261
Girls are much cheaper in Poland, for more value they offer,
but that's about the only good reason to go there.
Polish food kills. Polish people are commonly rude and inconsiderate.
People in Poland rarely take shower in the morning, so by late afternoon, when
they commute by large numbers, it's unbearable.
They all drive like insane, putting you in great danger, yet they would drown you
in a tablespoon (one of their favourite quotes...),
if you ever dared to complain, or point that out in some way.
Polish people speak and think very highly of themselves, easily disregarding other nations'
values and skills, especially in the education, while they don't even have the minimum knowledge
in the field, which would put them in the position to judge others.
They're cruel. They will never forget you the smallest mistake you make. They'll make nicknames stick to you for those things, never forget to laugh you out loud, whenever there is a good opportunity. They tend to criticize the rest of the world for everything they can think of, like they did have any better solutions themselves. Most of the time, they're not even close with any reasonable alternative. They're obsessed with obeying laws, but they mad if one attempts to enforce the law on them. They steal things. They like to be bribed. They're ignorant, inconsiderate, rude and overconfident with their mighty mental supremacy. They hate to cooperate, overhelmed with the fundamental importance of their own egos.
Extremely difficult to work with as a team, while losing it too easily in their painfully emphasized individualism traps, preventing any long run effective progress in just about anything they attempt to do, then never get to complete, or finish. They're super stubborn.
Expressing no will to accept anyone else's opinion, experience, knowledge. They're so xenophobic, it's almost like a racism. They get offended over easily misunderstood situations. They don't know how to accept, how to forgive, forget. they don't like to learn. Mostly they're confident, they've learned it all already. They love to show off. Often by spending beyond their actual budget. They tend to get nervous, or upset, just too easily. They put competing one against the other above any form of co-operation. They're easy to pretend, when it suits them,
or makes it easier to slip over something they were not supposed to skip. They're irresponsible. they don't plan, or plan poorly. They tend to identify any cause of any problem they run into in their lives, always in external circumstances, then they blame them for it. They never admit their mistakes. They'd rather let get killed. Need I to keep going on this? I could, for much longer.
the conclusion is that the Poles are, in general, a very ill nation that keeps doing a harm to themselves, by not learning from their own mistakes, by not respecting each-other, by not willing to be humble, by not listening. They actually seem to be listening, but to the populists only.
Going Poland other than transit, vacation, or a short term contract? No, thank you.
They have lots to learn before they can drop their mighty frustration off their shoulders.
In the mean time, I say pass.
I'm born and raised in Poland, myself, but I'm mentally quite far away from what so shocks me there, comes quite unacceptable, or simply too odd to try understanding.
And I feel sorry, as I too would like to see an opportunity for myself there.
Instead, as the years pass by, I gain more and more confidence, that no significant change is expected to bless Poland any time soon, at least in my lifetime. I lived in Poland, combined, less than I lived away from Poland, so I've absorbed a mixture of different national influences in my life so far, which gives me a way better than internal, perspective, and the right to comment.
In short words, no, no point moving to Poland, to stay and live there. Not to make a normal, peaceful living.
but that's about the only good reason to go there.
Polish food kills. Polish people are commonly rude and inconsiderate.
People in Poland rarely take shower in the morning, so by late afternoon, when
they commute by large numbers, it's unbearable.
They all drive like insane, putting you in great danger, yet they would drown you
in a tablespoon (one of their favourite quotes...),
if you ever dared to complain, or point that out in some way.
Polish people speak and think very highly of themselves, easily disregarding other nations'
values and skills, especially in the education, while they don't even have the minimum knowledge
in the field, which would put them in the position to judge others.
They're cruel. They will never forget you the smallest mistake you make. They'll make nicknames stick to you for those things, never forget to laugh you out loud, whenever there is a good opportunity. They tend to criticize the rest of the world for everything they can think of, like they did have any better solutions themselves. Most of the time, they're not even close with any reasonable alternative. They're obsessed with obeying laws, but they mad if one attempts to enforce the law on them. They steal things. They like to be bribed. They're ignorant, inconsiderate, rude and overconfident with their mighty mental supremacy. They hate to cooperate, overhelmed with the fundamental importance of their own egos.
Extremely difficult to work with as a team, while losing it too easily in their painfully emphasized individualism traps, preventing any long run effective progress in just about anything they attempt to do, then never get to complete, or finish. They're super stubborn.
Expressing no will to accept anyone else's opinion, experience, knowledge. They're so xenophobic, it's almost like a racism. They get offended over easily misunderstood situations. They don't know how to accept, how to forgive, forget. they don't like to learn. Mostly they're confident, they've learned it all already. They love to show off. Often by spending beyond their actual budget. They tend to get nervous, or upset, just too easily. They put competing one against the other above any form of co-operation. They're easy to pretend, when it suits them,
or makes it easier to slip over something they were not supposed to skip. They're irresponsible. they don't plan, or plan poorly. They tend to identify any cause of any problem they run into in their lives, always in external circumstances, then they blame them for it. They never admit their mistakes. They'd rather let get killed. Need I to keep going on this? I could, for much longer.
the conclusion is that the Poles are, in general, a very ill nation that keeps doing a harm to themselves, by not learning from their own mistakes, by not respecting each-other, by not willing to be humble, by not listening. They actually seem to be listening, but to the populists only.
Going Poland other than transit, vacation, or a short term contract? No, thank you.
They have lots to learn before they can drop their mighty frustration off their shoulders.
In the mean time, I say pass.
I'm born and raised in Poland, myself, but I'm mentally quite far away from what so shocks me there, comes quite unacceptable, or simply too odd to try understanding.
And I feel sorry, as I too would like to see an opportunity for myself there.
Instead, as the years pass by, I gain more and more confidence, that no significant change is expected to bless Poland any time soon, at least in my lifetime. I lived in Poland, combined, less than I lived away from Poland, so I've absorbed a mixture of different national influences in my life so far, which gives me a way better than internal, perspective, and the right to comment.
In short words, no, no point moving to Poland, to stay and live there. Not to make a normal, peaceful living.
Krol
8 Mar 2011 / #262
Yes i agree with you jarekp, the only thing good about Poland is its cheap vodka, the government is corrupt, people cheat and steal and most important to get anything done in Poland is a problem. Those who have returned to Poland will know what I mean, those who think Poland is a cheap way to live, change there mind very quick and return to UK or US.
Ask any Pole and it is his dream to leave Poland.
Ask any Pole and it is his dream to leave Poland.
Jarek, you have described any poorly educated person with self esteem problems. They are everywhere. It takes a great effort to find intelligent, well adjusted people wherever you are.
That's why I like engineers, one profession where logic rules, and facts outweigh "feelings". You tell a good engineer: "you're doing it wrong" and he'll want you to tell him more. So many others will take it as an insult and shut you out.
That said, I am very critical of Polish people as well, probably because they represent me in a way, therefore my expectations are higher. Some stranger acts like an a$$hole, there's no skin off my bones, but if I'm associated with them by blood or bithplace, that's much harder to ignore.
That's why I like engineers, one profession where logic rules, and facts outweigh "feelings". You tell a good engineer: "you're doing it wrong" and he'll want you to tell him more. So many others will take it as an insult and shut you out.
That said, I am very critical of Polish people as well, probably because they represent me in a way, therefore my expectations are higher. Some stranger acts like an a$$hole, there's no skin off my bones, but if I'm associated with them by blood or bithplace, that's much harder to ignore.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2427
8 Mar 2011 / #264
That's why I like engineers, one profession where logic rules, and facts outweigh "feelings". You tell a good engineer: "you're doing it wrong" and he'll want you to tell him more. So many others will take it as an insult and shut you out.
I have to agree that. I worked with 2 and the rules were always clear within the working environment, as well as their logic always helped to solve problems when they arrived.
PooleDogg3
12 Apr 2011 / #265
I'm sorry but the health service here is absolutely shocking and sadly the private health service is not great either. I only started to appreciate the NHS when I lived in the States and appreciate itt evn more now I live in Poland.
delphiandomine 86 | 17823
13 Apr 2011 / #266
I'm sorry but the health service here is absolutely shocking
No it's not. While it's underfunded, there are many, many excellent people within the service who are doing a great job with what they have - and Polish NFZ funded dentistry can be far superior to anything found in the UK.
Ask any Pole and it is his dream to leave Poland.
Well, I know a bunch of Poles who don't share this "dream" of yours...
I do not think its the Polish dream to leave Poland....
Its the Polish dream to earn good money in a good job and have a good life , and many feel they need to leave Poland for that....
I doubt if any would leave Poland for another country if they felt they had a good chance to make it here...
Its the Polish dream to earn good money in a good job and have a good life , and many feel they need to leave Poland for that....
I doubt if any would leave Poland for another country if they felt they had a good chance to make it here...
wielki pan 2 | 250
13 Apr 2011 / #269
I doubt if any would leave Poland for another country if they felt they had a good chance to make it here...
This is just not true, the way of life is pretty dull in Poland, weather cold for most of the year and governments well say no more.. the young want to move out and the old want to return.
Ask any Pole and it is his dream to leave Poland.
This is a one retarded statement.A "dream"?99% or more of Poles can leave Poland at any given moment and they don't even have to have passports in order to do that.You call it a "dream", sucker?Yeah I am a Pole and my dream is to have my own private island where I won't pay any taxes and will be able make my own rules.Now,that's what I call a dream.