A rant about "patriotism" in today's Poland

So says the British prole who fancies himself as the gatekeeper Poland. Go back to Aberdeen.

Which nation? There are two in Poland called the same to distort the issue.

I very much doubt that over a billion Indians are capable of speaking, reading and writing English. It's usually the middle and upper classes that use English, and that is only a small fraction of the Indian population. According to this article we are talking about 100 million+ Indians. Which is still a lot, of course.

Yawn.

I'd tell you to get out of my country, but frankly speaking - you're probably not in Poland anyway. Such hatred can only come from an immigrant or one that isn't in Poland to begin with.

"My country..." that's really ludicrous for you to say regarding Poland. You are the typical Brit who squats in another country and then suddenly believes he owns the place and therefore is in a position to speak on its behalf.

It's certainly far more mine than yours, that's for sure.

It's better to praise and defend an adopted country, than it is to constantly bang on about "patriotism" after having deserted your country.

There are plenty on here who do the latter. Usually those who go on about "faggots", "the Jew" and "fuhrer Tusk", funnily enough. They can PiS off :)

One suspects that the "patriot" has never actually lived here.

Yawn. It's not yours; not by any degree. It never was and never will be. Poland was there long before you showed up and will be there long after you go. You weren't there during any period of its struggles in the past. You've done nothing to shape its present or its future. If it weren't for PF no one would ever have heard of you. Like your fellow immigrants who drive taxis and work market stalls you are just another foreign who squawks for business.

Furthermore, eating, shitting and sleeping in Poland doesn't give you any special bond with its history or its people.

It sounds like you are describing your own situation.
Seriously, rather than bash an English gentleman who actually lives and works in Poland, and who also is kind enough to help out complete strangers on the internet, why don't you take your silly opinions and share them with your friends and colleagues in whatever backwater part of the world you actually live in.

English gentleman? Are you serious? Are you referring to the same delphia who said the following right here on PF only a week ago:


Source: People the Soviets planted

Too bad TommyG, you may weep for the British Butcher of Poznań when he is challenged by others but I don't.

Seriously, who in their right mind demands at least 160,000 pounds of Polish flesh per annum while simultaneously using every opportunity to declare to one and all that Poland is "his" country?

Seems to me his love for Poland is on par with his fellow immigrant hero Simon Mol.

Someone who knows what the phrase "tongue in cheek" means.

Besides, Poland would be a better place if it lost 160 000 of its backward, religious bigots. As would any country, come to think of it.

No. It's one thing to disagree with people and quite another to explicitly state they should be murdered. Nothing "tongue in cheek" about it whatsoever. No one of sound mind would think that it is patriotic to permanently silence their fellow citizens with whom they don't see eye to eye.

That quote is taken out of context and was made in response to Polonius' remark about 160,000 Christians being killed.
Having read some of his posts and some of your posts, I would say he knows a dam site more about Poland than you do. The fact that he is British is irrelevant. He does live, work and contribute in Poland which is more than can be said about a lot of posters here (including yourself).

Ah, of course, I know who it is.

Hello Puzzie, are we bored?

Of course it, at least in your mind. It is just more apologies on behalf of someone who incites the mass murder of Poles with whom he does not agree with. One would have that a better person, a gentleman no less, would have come up with a better retort or simply walked away. But no. Delphia is just as abusive, and on many occasions more so, as the people you claim are his critics and yet as far as you are concerned Poland has known no greater patriot since Kościuszko.

Swedish peasants? lol. Poles are the peasants, not the Swedes


Are you crazy? English isn't going anywhere. Its here to stay, and it will be just as relevant, if not more relevant in the future. English, French, Spanish are far more important and useful to learn than Arabic or Mandarin. And it doesn't take 20 years to become fluent in a language. My parents went from speaking zero English, to speaking fluently in around 3-4 years. If it takes you 20 years to speak a new language fluently, or near fluent, you aren't trying hard enough.

Bieganski, cry more...

Most people have this sense of entitlement, the "I don't speak your language so you should speak mine". You (and most English speakers, I've noticed) just automatically expect everyone to speak English and are surprised when they don't. Others react to this with their own, more agressive sense of entitlement, by actively refusing to speak to you even if they do know English. The French (or I should say most Parisians; the French elsewhere are nicer) are like this. The Flemish are this taken to 11; god help you if you start the conversation in French. I have not noticed this with Russians, but I did notice that Russians/Ukrainians/Belarusians will automatically switch to their language if one other person knows it in the group. Come to think of it the Chinese are even worse: you can be talking to one and another will actively interrupt your conversation in Mandarin. I've only met one Chinese guy so far (out of 40-50) who doesn't do this ALL THE TIME.

Who are you talking about in particular?

Who is "you"?

I only use English if the other person is happy to use it - otherwise I use Polish. Can't imagine going into the shop and using English...


The Walloons are worse - they simply don't know Flemish.

One thing I adore about Poland is the fact that if someone hears English, they'll try and use it even if they don't know much of it. I remember telling some boss in a supermarket here that a checkout girl deserved a hell of a lot of credit for using English towards me when she heard me speaking in English, even though I addressed her initially in Polish.

Unfortunately, you are probably one of a few who have bothered to learn the language. Most Brits and Yanks are fairly lazy, lol


Too true. Everyone likes to practise speaking English with a native. Personally, I'm trying to use Polish whenever possible to improve my own fluency. I'll get there:)

Were you? And I suspect Delph has contributed far more to the future of his country, Poland than you ever will or could.


Spending one's entire adult life there, setling down permanently and making ones home there as part of the nation gives a far stronger bond than someone whose ancestors left generations ago because they couldn't make it.

This just sounds like you adore being accommodated and catered to.


Wow! Did you really?!?!? You told some boss something? Holy-sh*t that's worth about....SFA, isn't it? Give yourself a pat on the back!

Seriously, is there a more self-congratulatory person on PF other than this dude?

One thing I really don't like is that Anglos always seem to expect others to speak their language... ;)

Most do (including Yanks), but some do not:


Selective reading much....

Hardly. It's nice to see that people will actually make the effort - it's not common in Europe. I can't imagine 99% of British shop assistants in the UK using a foreign language to their customers.


It's called being nice. Never tried it?


Oh yes. I particularly hate the ones who think that if someone doesn't understand, the solution is to speak louder and slower. Or the ones who get upset because the woman working in Zabka doesn't speak English!

Nah, just selective interpretation... :)
I'm an Anglo too, mate, so I'm excused.

How about Lao Che - they got famous because of their patriotic songs commemorating Warsaw Uprising.

Never heard about the foreign band you've mentioned about but I heard about a British singer of Polish ancestry Katy Carr who wrote songs inspired by stories of Polish soldiers fighting during World War II.

Good music. It would be pushing it a bit to bracket them with the sort of thugs and dullards who hide more sinister views beheind a veneer of patriotism.