Lack of human rights in Poland?

Legia fans caused a lot of damage in Italy. Lazio fans caused none in Warsaw. If I'm wrong, then please post a link showing any of the damage in Warsaw caused by Lazio fans.

There wasn't any.

Why do any fans cause any damage? It's just a game guys.

I don't see the point. Neither do I see the point of arresting people without good cause.

I can't post a link but I do have it on fairly good authority that there's some pretty bad scuffing to the stairs at a certain Warsaw police station caused by Lazio fans falling down them.

Sure because the police locked them up before they caused any damage.

They were arrested for fighting in the streets and attacking the police. Were some innocent? Sure, but because the innocent were amongst the trouble makers, they all got arrested. Plain and simple. Go watch some footage of the incident.

I have done. There is no clear footage of any such attacks. Which is strange, given the number of arrests and high profile nature of the match.

No-one, other than the police themselves, appears to have noticed anything at all.


In that case, we'd better lock you up before you cause any damage.

Something else that maybe should taken into account regarding the Polish Police is that one of the senior officers said that a lot of them (police officers) came from "Pathological Families". Having witnessed first hand an unprovoked assault by four officers in Stary Rynek Poznan, I am preprepared to side with szczecinianin to a certain extent but not fully. Personally I wouldn't trust a Polish policeman and as a general rule, few Polish people I speak too, have little faith in them either.

I'm not a soccer fan. Nor congregate on a street with 200 colleges. Whose main hobby after soccer is cooking, many potential chefs to be with a full array of kitchenware. I think that Italian Food. Association shoudl protest against mistreatment of their fans and members by the Polish police. I think that could be about jealousy as Polish food cannot compete with pizzas and pastas they used their influence to intimidate Italian food lovers by those brutal persecutions.


Actually is was minister in charge of the police a politician who talks a lot of bull.
The fact is that the police in Poland is badly lead and poorly trained, hence many problems, in this case a I think it was about high ranking officials who made that decision that riled szczecz so much. I bet he would rather have Italian food over Polish food.

You might be interested in reading a first hand account: sz-n.com/2013/12/detained-by-the-police-in-warsaw-a-lazio-fan-tells-his-story/

Please note that no-one has come up with any account of the Lazio fans having caused any kind of major disturbance that does not come from the police themselves.

Which is a bit odd, considering this was a high-profile match in a capital city.

Of course, football fans aren't particularly popular, which means the police can act any way they choose, and most people won't care less.


Apparently, it was. It had little or nothing to do with the behaviour of the Italians themselves.

Listen, I have already said that I have not inside knowledge of this case, it is possible that the police had some reasons (say few fans started trouble and they decided to bin in all lot) to arrest that particular group of soccer fans, it is also equally conceivable that they had no ample reasons. You cannot determine it on the forum.

What riled me is your assumption that Polish fans are not subjected to such reprisals and such treatment on the hands of the police in Poland. Which clearly isn't the case.

Merged: Poland to replace human rights delegates

Looks like another politicised appointment:



salon.com/2016/04/11/poland_to_replace_delegates_to_europes_human_rights_body/

The delegates being replaced are Hanna Suchocka and Krzysztof Drzewicki, both very heavyweight and respected figures.

The only result (apart from further compromising Poland on the European stage) is that the new 'delegates' will not be taken very seriously.

It remind's me a bit of Brecht's famous poem 'The Solution'
After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers' Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?