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Gypies/Indian-looking women with kids beg for money in Poland


Harry  
20 Dec 2010 /  #91
What does your statement have to do with Romani people?
jonni 16 | 2475  
20 Dec 2010 /  #92
So Harry, you respect people who live a life of stealing and begging instead of working?

Providing they're successsful, doesn't everyone?

Gypsies don't belong in Europe, they belong in India.

As you know, guy, European Gypsies are European. They belong in Europe.
jarnowa 4 | 499  
20 Dec 2010 /  #93
What does your statement have to do with Romani people?

That's what they're associated with. Must be some reason for it, don't you think?
Harry  
20 Dec 2010 /  #94
The reason for that is bigoted cretins who say things like "Gypsies don't belong in Europe, they belong in India".
jarnowa 4 | 499  
20 Dec 2010 /  #95
Providing they're successsful, doesn't everyone?

So tell me, how succesful are they? Did i miss something? Last few times i saw them they were begging and driving expensive cars from god knows what sources, i've never seen them in 9-5 jobs.

As you know, guy, European Gypsies are European. They belong in Europe.

That's your opinion, for me and most other people European=Caucasian. I will never adapt the leftwing redefinition of "European" that completely ignores people's ethnic and cultural background.
jonni 16 | 2475  
20 Dec 2010 /  #96
So tell me, how succesful are they?

Wait for it...

Did i miss something?

You surely did.

Here we are:

Last few times i saw them they were begging and driving expensive cars from god knows what sources, i've never seen them in 9-5 jobs.

There you go.

I will never adapt the leftwing redefinition of "European" that completely ignores people's ethnic and cultural background.

That's quite a relief, since their ethnic and cultural background (over a thousand years here and far more European in culture than anything else) makes them as European as anyone.

So it seems

your opinion, for me and most other people

is true.
monika87 - | 55  
20 Dec 2010 /  #97
Exactly, you're telling me.
Trevek 25 | 1699  
20 Dec 2010 /  #98
I don't know what that means but am guessing it means a "meal ticket" or "easy target"

"gadżo" means non-Gypsy, foreigner. It's actually found in the dialect of northen England, especially Northumbria.
Piotr123 3 | 54  
21 Dec 2010 /  #99
I agree that gypsies don't belong in Europe and they should be chased away! They definitely do not belong in Europe. A lot of gypsies have recently come to Sweden from Romania and they bring the same misery as they do in Poland.
jonni 16 | 2475  
21 Dec 2010 /  #100
I agree that gypsies don't belong in Europe and they should be chased away! They definitely do not belong in Europe

Then again, they don't belong anywhere else, a distinct nationality within Europe, but a nomadic one.

They've been here a long time, and whether you like it or not, they aren't going away.
Wroclaw 44 | 5359  
21 Dec 2010 /  #101
"gadżo" means non-Gypsy, foreigner

there is (geordie) gadgie, which means man
southern 73 | 7059  
21 Dec 2010 /  #102
Gypies/Indian-looking women with kids beg for money in Poland

This is very strange.In Greece the gypsy kids beg and give their earnings to their mothers.
Trevek 25 | 1699  
22 Dec 2010 /  #103
there is (geordie) gadgie, which means man

That's what I'm thinking of. I think the word "gadżo" also means that. The word "Chav" or the Geordie "Charver" comes from the Rom word "boy"
Wroclaw 44 | 5359  
22 Dec 2010 /  #104
the Geordie "Charver" comes from the Rom word "boy"

i believe so.
Trevek 25 | 1699  
22 Dec 2010 /  #105
It was once suggested to me that the word 'loli' means 'red' and 'pop' means 'apple' but i haven't had it confirmed.
Prusakowski - | 25  
23 Dec 2010 /  #106
I keep on being approached for money on the street by Indian-looking women carrying little kids.

In the Nowy Miasto in Warsaw the 'Indian-looking women' (Romany or Bulgarian beggars?) are found deliberately holding their kids in the rain to try to elicit undeserved sympathy from the tourists. There are groups of them in the alleyways near the Zamek Krolewski. On the main Warsaw tram routes a variant of the 'Indian looking' beggar's practice is that you will find their youths 'singing' a tuneless racket to try to gain a few groszy, in between tram stops. It is bad news if you are sitting at the front of the tram a mere few feet away from the vocal chords of those unwanted 'singers'. The beggars have 'Minders' who in return for bussing them in to the tourist centres, rake off a traditional tithe of Shekhels from their organised gangs of scroungers.

Other beggars comprised of hatchet-faced scrawny womenfolk walk the circuit around the Barbykan and castle walls 'pan handling'. Again with 'Minders' to try to ensure that the beggars do not get a citizen's arrest, and to warn them if the tourist police are nearby.

For those beggars who , rather than beneficially contribute to Europe; 'acting the helpless social parasite' beats doing a productive hard days graft to try to earn a living in a factory, farm or other work context appropriate to their limited capabilities .
Crow 158 | 9185  
23 Dec 2010 /  #107
Gypsies are far better then Shiftars (Albanians). Shifs could even take your organs and rape your pets
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1522  
23 Dec 2010 /  #108
Crow ... how can you think of a united Slavja when slavs in some places wish to be more accepting and find other races and gypsies as people just like them.

I am in favor of a united Slavic alliance ... or something like that. But not something like a USSR! No Crow, it is not done that way. This extremity takes your purpose down to ashes, a purpose otherwise quite attractive to many poles ... surely.
jarnowa 4 | 499  
23 Dec 2010 /  #109
That's quite a relief, since their ethnic and cultural background (over a thousand years here and far more European in culture than anything else) makes them as European as anyone.

1) begging and stealing instead of working is typical for 3rd world.
2) their roots are in India.
3) they look Indian, not European.

Just because they live here doesn't make them real Europeans.
Sokrates 8 | 3335  
23 Dec 2010 /  #110
Shifs could even take your organs and rape your pets

I heard of a case where they actually raped a guys organs and then made them (the organs) into their pets!
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1522  
23 Dec 2010 /  #111
typical for 3rd world.

We have just one world. ONE WORLD ... there is no "third" world.

As for your generalizations ... the only answer is "you should be ashamed of your existence, unless you change it".
jarnowa 4 | 499  
23 Dec 2010 /  #112
We have just one world. ONE WORLD ... there is no "third" world.

This concept of "one world" is only existing in the minds of socialists and wannabe Europeans.

For the latter it's very interesting if Europeans get brainwashed with this crazy communist idea that they should share everything in Europe for free with people from elsewhere.
Crow 158 | 9185  
23 Dec 2010 /  #113
Lodz_The_Boat

brate, you speak like a woman now

I heard of a case where they actually raped a guys organs and then made them (the organs) into their pets!

all combinations are possible with Shifs
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1522  
23 Dec 2010 /  #114
you speak like a woman now

Its not speaking like a woman brate. Its called speaking like a Pole. An educated and civilized modern Polish person. Women or men is not the issue here. Our women are nothing less. Yes, be are biologically different and have different functionality in our lives (different responsibilities and works aswell). But intrinsically we are not less/more wise than the other. We must respect the slavic woman when we contemplate a slavic alliance right?

Do you know that I have wished it before I knew a certain CROW in a certain Polish forums. I have liked the idea, and not because I am some kind of an extremist.

But the ideology behind the alliances you and I preach are different in our international relations as well as internal liberty. I wish for a progressive and exemplary Slavic union which recognizes the impluse of the people to be more open and more accepting. We like people, we love other cultures too.

We can be a powerful force, culturally - historically and economically. We can attract people of all lands to share knowledge with us.

What about those children who have a German parent, or an Indian or an Egyptian or an American or English parent? ... They are OUR CHILDREN, and their parents who live in Poland are also ours, because they are the spouse of our children - and no brave hearted man or leader or a caring leadership can do injustice there.

This is the difference between our views. However, I have done work for a possibility of this union than just tipe on computers =) ... in peaceful manner, with people who are just as optimistic and progressive minded.

This is the future of this region ... not isolation or segregation ... but progress and rejuvenation!
southern 73 | 7059  
23 Dec 2010 /  #115
Crow does not even accept a serbian-albo mongrel let alone a combination with mujas.
Crow 158 | 9185  
23 Dec 2010 /  #116
Women or men is not the issue here.

true. anyway, i`m not sexist

Our women are nothing less.

definitely not

Yes, be are biologically different and have different functionality in our lives (different responsibilities and works aswell).

woman is woman. man is man

But intrinsically we are not less/more wise than the other.

weeeel

We must respect the slavic woman when we contemplate a slavic alliance right?

i assure you, in my memories i have nice collection. i have many alliances and unities behind me

Do you know that I have wished it before I knew a certain CROW in a certain Polish forums.

nice

I have liked the idea, and not because I am some kind of an extremist.

no, we don`t need extremism. But, let me remind you... since i come to this forum i insist that Slavic civilization can`t be comprehend as exclusively ethnic civilization where all people share their common genetic origin. Slavs are more then that. We are civilization based also on common and similar (with all our unique characteristics) cultural and linguistic heritage. We are civilization in the full sense of the word, not just some kind `vulgarized` brotherhood.

It means that all people who share values of Slavic cultural and linguistic heritage and wish to contribute to it should be considered as equal to ethnic Slavs.

Simplistically speaking i see future Slavic Union as Confederation of free and democratic states, with some major Slavic language as confederal official (for sure it would be Polish, simple because we Serbs likes the idea). Same way as English language exist as official in USA, Canada, Australia.... in fundamentally multicultural states, i can imagine Polish as official in future Slavic Confederation. But essentially, all member states should have full right to preserve their unique characteristics. For example, i can imagine Hungary and Greece as members of Slavic Confederation.... they have historical reasons for that, they have some Slavic cultural characteristics incorporated in the own heritage, they may profit from business with Slavs... and, if they are willing to accept Polish language as official, i welcome their membership in Slavic confederation.

ut the ideology behind the alliances you and I preach are different in our international relations as well as internal liberty.

what is your stance then?

I wish for a progressive and exemplary Slavic union which recognizes the impluse of the people to be more open and more accepting. We like people, we love other cultures too.

i`m not opposition to it.

We can be a powerful force, culturally - historically and economically. We can attract people of all lands to share knowledge with us.

exactly

and we would force our enemies to retreat

Crow does not even accept a serbian-albo mongrel let alone a combination with mujas.

Ratko Racow was cure, i can tell you that.
z_darius 14 | 3960  
23 Dec 2010 /  #117
Do you know what "cyganić" means in Polish?

similar to English "to gyp"
Natasa 1 | 572  
23 Dec 2010 /  #118
Big Slavic brotherhood should reconsider this idea because as far as I can see, Slavic women are changing sides and in significant numbers starting to cheer for the other teams.
Seanus 15 | 19668  
23 Dec 2010 /  #119
Back to the thread, I've seen the cygany (gypsies) do their rounds. The thing is, many tend to have enough for their needs but they are greedy. It is not Polish peoples' problem that they breed like rabbits. Besides, they sometimes try and pick a fight with the locals. Why should they be respected?
Natasa 1 | 572  
23 Dec 2010 /  #120
No, it's not strange. Everything is OK.
That woman with the kid is 13 and she gives the money to her 30 year old mother, grandmother of the kids.

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