Poland's Environment, recycling

Polish companies should have taken first and not the German company REMONDIS which has a slave policy, pays very low wages and takes the profit out of Poland.

If a local polish company collects and treats the garbage, the local economy can benefit from that and the money stays in Poland.

Why? Polish companies and workers have been offering lower prices in the rest of the EU for years - why is it acceptable for them to


but not for foreign companies in Poland?

It's up for Polish companies to compete. There's a level playing field, and Poles have done exceptionally well competing in it in the area of services.

Yes. I am heartily for that. Poland should rule!


Yes! Because I also support the free market!

It's worth pointing out that where the tender was rigged in favour of the local incumbent operator - there has been a scandal as a result. Warsaw, anyone?

Yes, Warsaw!
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so you're the local garbage man? Until a Polish company steps up to the plate and figures out the money in garbage collection--there is little selection. But I am a huge supporter of it being paid in property taxes. If you can afford a house you can afford to pay for garbage.

no, but i don't want to pay any penny to a German company which treats its employees like slaves, pays them very low wages while simultaneously making record profit and takes the earned money out of Poland. Are you insane?

Plenty of Polish companies have done that too elsewhere.

I know of one story where a Polish pizza maker managed to put several pizza shops out of business on the border. Nothing new or special in today's Europe.

hmm.....I can't imagine people are fighting to become garbage men. If they don't like it then go to a different garbage company. You do know that this is not a high skill job, right?

And there are plenty of Polish companies that treat people like slaves and take their profits out of Poland too.

And then there are plenty of Poles working in foreign countries that take their money back to Poland. And of course there are many Poles claiming benefits in UK that no longer live in UK.

So, where do you draw the line at your boycotts?

The first segregated rubbish bins were introduced in Krakow around 2006. But segregation has been optional until now.

Here, my nephew from the countryside is becoming familiar with the novelty:

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There is also the engineering part of designing and operating such waste treatment plants, not only 'collecting' garbage. Even so, for collecting garbage not special skills are needed, the policies of REMONDIS against its employees are wrong. That other companies do something similar, does not justify that REMONDIS is allowed to do so.

And again, it is slave labor in favor of the Germans and I am against that, specially because I know the structure of REMONDIS very well

ok, so then it is up to the Polish gov't to police the way foreign companies do business. Until then....we can boycott and that is about it.

yes, unfortunately, quite often the government does not represent the will of its citizens

Intrigued by your posts about the German company, I checked the net opinions on them. Yes, work is hard, they pay about 1700-2000 zlotys net. But ex-workers say it is an excellent opportunity to gain experience as a waste collector.

1700-2000zl net for an unskilled physical job sounds very fair to me. Yes, it's hard work with some terrible hours, but it is what it is.

Perhaps "patrik" would like to show us some evidence of his claims that they are a terrible company?

I can speak from experiences with that particular company in Germany. Firstly, that company owns many other companies which give different industrial services. In many cases they hire foreign people (such as Poles) to do the dirty job. They are offered contracts in which the working time is 40 hours per week. However it is stayed that it will be required to work extra-hours and there is no payment for those extra-hours. You will assume, you would probably have to work 1 hour more per day as a maximum. However this is not the case. I know from some cases in which that company expects people to work 84 hours per week ( 12 hours shift, plus Saturday and Sunday) with no extra remuneration. A German wouldn't do that, so they hire Poles (or other foreigners) which don't know very well the German laws thus they can be easily exploited by the company. If those foreigners reject to do so, they get fired immediately.

It is firstly against the German law to not pay for extra worked hours. If it is stayed that 'extra hours' are included in the salary, it should be clearly stayed how many hours are included in this salary. Many foreigners do not know that and the company takes advantage of that.

Conclusion, that company treats no-germans worse and has a slave policy towards its employees. The same company is making enormous profit out of Poland as a garbage collector and still treats its employees like cr*p .

I'm having a hard time finding an English version of what is recyclable and how to segregate. We got a notice from apt admin but no explanation. The containers in the trash area are not marked well. One is still the large tin collection bin and now there is a big red one and a smaller red or green... Can't remember.

At a guess I'd say the green one is for recyclable waste, the black one is for non-recyclable, and they haven't got around to removing the old one. Why not have a look in the bins and see what other folk are putting in there? Or ask a Pole for help in explaining the notice. Or post the notice on here and ask for a translation.

Or old one is for non-recyclable and two new ones are for recyclable ( glass / paper nad plastic) or one for recyclable one for organic?