The Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs?

In the UK you can claim extra benefits if you have a dog.......

No, it's not.
I am responsible for my animal, which is innocent and helpless without me. I am also responsible for my family and, to certain extent, friends. The animals in general usually can't do anything to improve their fate. Humans, however, have brains and means to deal with their own troubles. You're mentioning the homeless - how many of them did it to themselves? A dog thrown out by irresponsible owners did nothing to deserve it!

You look after humans if you want, but don't you dare tell me what I should be doing with my money.

After all, your attitude towards the most helpless creatures shows what kind of person you are.

Humans are inherently more valuable than animals... surely?

Yes, but animals are living beings as well. Treating them like **** can't be accaptable!

Depends on a human.
Would you say that Stalin or Hitler were "valuable"?

All the living creatures are equally important. It's just humans usually have a choice - they can move, finde another place to live in, change job etc. Animals can't make such decisions, and we are responsible for making their lives painless or their environment livable and sustainable.

valid note..


Not true, look at Haiti.. some of us have choices, millions don't

Of course for some of us it's harder, but no one HAS TO live in Haiti. The animals living there have no choice whatsoever, they can't move, not even the slightest chance. Having said that, I'm certainly sorry for people there, I know it's terrible what's going on there and their fate is awful. Still, I'm always more moved by the tragedy of the dogs in a shelter or the "bush meat" being killed cruelly in Africa. Or the species of plants and animals going extinct all over the world just as we speak. That's who I am. And it's my business only what I'm spending my money on.

I think Poland is the normal country in this regard! In many other European countries people care much more for dogs and cats than for their fellow human beings. I think this kind of attitude is very bad for society as a whole.

in benelux they eat horsey , them badduns them

PS: RSPCA older than the police

I have pet snails, how can frenchpeople fry snails alive - they are stuck in middleages or are maybe themselves possessed by satan and have to give this beast worship in form of deadanimals

all this cruelty, greed. While in Tasmania the Tasmania Devil is dying from mouth-cancer.

Some might, perhaps. However, on a relative scale, their attitudes to pets are very healthy. Compared with most Asians, well, the Poles are saints in this regard.

You're cruel. I have no respect for people like you, sorry.

I'm not cruel. I don't hurt anyone, I help my friends if they need help and I give money to WOŚP and Caritas. I always buy food for people if they ask for it (though I don't give money to beggars on the streets). I also feed homeless animals.

What's so cruel in what I'm saying or doing? Please point out what I said that would be cruel or untrue. The fact that 90% of homeless are homeless because of their own mistakes? And 100% of homeless cats and dogs are homeless because of the cruelty and/or stupidity of their owners? If you're homeless there are places where you can go to get food and shelter - but you can't drink alcohol there. Many prefer alcohol to shelter - but this is their own choice! There are places where they will try and help you to get back to normal life - but again, you must be willing to change your ways. I'm merely saying that humans do have a choice! What are the homeless animals supposed to do?

But to be honest, I couldn't care less if you respect me or not. I certainly don't respect people who are cruel towards animals.

because people die in Africa and you respect your dog more.
An alcoholic is also a human being and he also deserves for your respect because you never know what story is behind his fate. And you say we all responsible for our fate and, if I understand you correctly, those who screw up don't deserve for rescpect or compassion. Is it that what you mean?


No they don't. You talk as if all those beggers where comfy with a fact they are nothing more than human scum (for many people).


Aren't you too optimistic?

First of all , what's one to do with the other anyway? They are not starving because I'm feeding my dog! (well, I was feeding my dog, unfortunately it died of old age last winter, still miss it :( )

Secondly, I am responsible for my dog. I am not responsible for the whole humanity.

Thirdly, I respect anything and anyone that is alive. I love those close to me: friends, family and pets. Can you honestly say you love all those children in Africa?

Fourthly, what exactly are you doing for the famine victims? I used to spend my money on meat for my dog. Are you maybe buying nice cosmetics? Or expensive clothes? How dare you not spend it on starving children? Is buying nice things wrong, cause the money could be used for charity? Why buying dog food is worse then buying sweets for one's children? Surely they don't need it, they could go without, the money would be better spent for the kids in Africa?

In all honesty, unless you are not buying any commodities for yourself or your family, how dare you tell me what I should be spending my money on?


That is not what I mean at all. As I said before, all the living beings deserve respect. The fact that humans have free will and can shape their fate has nothing to do with my respect of lack of it. The ones that screw up deserve compassion and also help if they are willing to make an effort as well. However, many people want money handed over with no effort from their side. It's the same as with unemployed who can't be bothered to work in a low paid job cause it's not good enough for them - and they expect the country to give them money. Or the families living in 1 room flat with 10 kids - moaning that social help is not enough, but refusing to work and yet producing even more children. I'm all for giving a helping hand - opportunity to work and better oneself. I'm completely against handing in ready solutions.


They had a choice when they reached for the first bottle of vodka. They have a choice of going to a shelter in the middle of winter - if they stop drinking. Some of them are just liars - like a famous beggar in my city who can be seen with one leg injured... just it can be either right or left depending on a day!

People should be offered help, and they very often are...but many of them don't want to use it. And they do have a choice.

for some the shame of accepting charity is to big a burden.


i don't think anyone makes an active choice to be an alcoholic.

my last dog was certainly more important to me than some people. she was certainly better than some of the scum she protected me from.

Took this pic in front of a book store window in Warszawa. The Polish kitty doesn't look like he's suffering much. In fact, he looks pretty spoiled to me :)

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Nowy Świat street it's I like this book store just because cat is there still information Do not knock at the window? :-)

Hero kitty! :D


This is just wrong. :s


I had a pet snail! But sadly, poor Meow passed away. Very slowly. :[

You may laugh but it's true. To us, she's a real hero :-)

Well are you going to share with us your hero kitty story?

Have 2 Bengals ' females full breed ' love them dearly an we are all moving shortly to krakow '

Passports all sorted the vet even gave me some valium to calm them down for the journey '

think i may have the valium myself ' its a long road trip :)

Merged: Which pet is more popular among Poles: Cats or dogs?

Are dogs more popular as pets in poland?

Yes, very much so

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Do Polish people like cats more or dogs more (as pets)?

What do you most polish people prefer as pets?