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JanekP  
16 Aug 2015 /  #601
RN as hungarian Jobbik are neo-fascist parties, I think there's few to discuss about it
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
16 Aug 2015 /  #602
Just because their supporters are fascists doesn't mean RN is too

Why would any typical fascist support a political party that isn't fascist?

Completely illogical!
Tori  
17 Aug 2015 /  #603
Guess we have to talk about the definition of racism then.

Progressive Liberals use words like Homophobic = intolerant of a gay person,
Bigot = intolerant person,
Racist = intolerant of a race,
in a derogatory way to belittle people who refuse to accept/think like them.
Being a racist simply means you do not tolerate another race for one reason or another. Some are very justifiable reasons to be a racist.

Another race that wants to kill me because I am of another religion besides theirs or work the welfare system of another country without contributing a dime into it,

demand that the school systems teach in their foreign native tongue, use Poland for a gateway into the E.U., ect. gives them all the right in the world to be a racist/intolerant toward them.

Racists are people who are proud to STAND THEIR GROUND against people that try to force/demand their way into another's culture/lifestyle.
Polish people should be proud to be racists to keep Poland Polish. Absolutely nothing wrong with that at all!
The Polish people have seen first hand what has happened to places such as London and want no part of it. Can you blame them?

"Poland for the Polish - no room for the others that insist on changing the Polish culture.
jon357  73 | 23224  
17 Aug 2015 /  #604
Completely illogical!

Exactly, however racists are not known for logic. Or intelligence. Or decency. Most educated people in Poland are not racist and even among the less sophisticated or cosmopolitan there is an inherent decency.

"Poland for the Polish - no room for the others that insist on changing the Polish culture.

This from is actually a staggering comment coming from someone from thousands of miles away who doesn't even speak the language or have any understanding of contemporary Poland

Bigot = intolerant person,
Racist = intolerant of a race,

This from a fat middle-aged bloke who used to post here pretending to be a young woman, even with photos and encourage male posters to enjoy 'romantic' PMs with 'her'.
Polsyr  6 | 758  
17 Aug 2015 /  #605
however racists are not known for logic. Or intelligence. Or decency.

100% correct...
Wulkan  - | 3136  
17 Aug 2015 /  #606
Exactly, however racists are not known for logic. Or intelligence. Or decency

What does that show about your intelligence given that you can't even tell appart racist from a patriot?
Malopolanin  3 | 132  
17 Aug 2015 /  #607
So Nazis were on average less intelligent than black Africans?
jon357  73 | 23224  
17 Aug 2015 /  #608
100% correct...

As the two posts above illustrate beautifully....
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
17 Aug 2015 /  #609
What does that show about your intelligence given that you can't even tell appart racist from a patriot?

Patriots? Remind me, when was the last time Ruch Narodowy actually organised a single thing such as litter picking or helping old people?
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Aug 2015 /  #610
litter picking or helping old people?

I guess when Adolf Hitler attacked Poland in 1939, Polish army should have shown how patriotic they are by going litter picking.
jon357  73 | 23224  
18 Aug 2015 /  #611
Or standing round in crowds shouting at anti-fascists. Wulkan, your 'ruch narodowy' has more in common with the politician you mention than any other.
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Aug 2015 /  #612
anti-fascists

you mean antifa?
jon357  73 | 23224  
18 Aug 2015 /  #613
Nope. Anti- fascists, meaning most people.
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Aug 2015 /  #614
Oh right, I'm anti-fascist too, so glad to be in the part of most people. I hate when islamic fascists gather up and shout their nazi slur.
jon357  73 | 23224  
18 Aug 2015 /  #615
Many of those in Poland are there?
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Aug 2015 /  #616
2000 more now.
Polsyr  6 | 758  
18 Aug 2015 /  #617
2000? I didn't even see 1. I hope I never see any here.
jon357  73 | 23224  
18 Aug 2015 /  #618
Same here. I wonder why Wulkan thinks that there are 2000 extremist Islamist protestors in Poland? Where are they hiding? Under the bed?
Malopolanin  3 | 132  
18 Aug 2015 /  #619
Nope. Anti- fascists, meaning most people.

Anti-fascist of the year - Simon Mol?
jon357  73 | 23224  
18 Aug 2015 /  #620
As far as I know he wasn't very political apart from green issues. And irrelevant to this thread. The psychology of the Polish women who slept with him unprotected knowing full well how ill he was and what illness he had is a different matter and worthy of discussion elsewhere.

Strange you should mention him as a justification for your vile racism. Though the low crime rate in Warsaw among immigrant communities in Poland compared to the population as a whole would by your logic be a very good argument for more Arabs and Africans and fewer ethnic Poles.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
18 Aug 2015 /  #621
low crime rate

Whenever an immigrant communtiy is not very large and is clearly outnumbered by locals, its memebrs are usually law-abiding and well-behaved. In my youth people avoided slummy Negro neighbourhoods like the plague for fear of muggings, carjackings, theft and wanton vandalism. But across the river in Canada the small black minority was known to be hard working, clean and law-abiding. Maybe that's the answer -- limit the volume of immigration.
Tori  
18 Aug 2015 /  #622
however racists are not known for logic. Or intelligence. Or decency

Who told you that jon or is just because you disagree and out comes your MO of a barrage of insults as usual?
Racist's common sense has everything to do with logic and intelligence.
Homophobic's is everything to do with decency.

This from is actually a staggering comment coming from someone from thousands of miles away who doesn't even speak the language

Why would you find that staggering jon as I live thousands of miles away with many pen pals who live in Poland that speak English.

I enjoy talking with some of them on the telephone. They keep me informed of the haps going on in Poland.
I also have a computer that I can google most all the Polish newspapers.
My point that being a thousand miles away certainly does not mean a thing in this day of communication.
Your staggering belittlements have become meaningless to bully other members here to make you right and them wrong.
The point was that Poles are racist with good reason in some cases like immigration, homosexuals and anything else that destroys the Polish culture.
Keep Poland Polish with VERY LOW immigration, keeping the zloty, keeping the homosexuals silenced, keeping the RCC as the main religion, keep the Muslims out, ect.

.

even with photos and encourage male posters to enjoy 'romantic' PMs with 'her'.

Please share these photo's with us jon or are they make believe to just some more of your sensationalism. lol
Roger5  1 | 1432  
18 Aug 2015 /  #623
Tori, you no doubt correspond with like-minded people, so it's hardly surprising that they tell you what you want to hear. If you talk to Polish racists, they'll obviously tell you Poland is racist. As you can see from this forum, however, there are other viewpoints. Those of us who live here do not recognise the country you describe. Why not get on a plane and come see for yourself?
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
18 Aug 2015 /  #624
Keep Poland Polish with VERY LOW immigration, keeping the zloty, keeping the homosexuals silenced, keeping the RCC as the main religion, keep the Muslims out, ect.

But you don't live here, so what would you know about currency, immigration, homosexuality and so on?

Go on, tell us why the Euro is a bad idea. You have a single currency over there, so why not here?
Roger5  1 | 1432  
18 Aug 2015 /  #625
keep the Muslims out, ect.

(Why do racists always put 'ect'?)
Vox  - | 172  
18 Aug 2015 /  #626
i am an atypical pole, i am not religious at all, i hate vodka :), i do not steal, i have a very high academic degree and i teach english in america. i am not racist

You have forgotten to mention that you are about to sell your humble abode under the bridge.
@Janke P

Poland is still undeveloped as a society in terms of accepting diverse people, but I think it's on the right way and the new educated generations are less narrow-minded and bigot

Could you remind us why we should take your word on this?
Polsyr  6 | 758  
18 Aug 2015 /  #627
across the river in Canada

Interesting you say that. When I lived in Vancouver, there was a tiny (less than 1,000 strong) Persian immigrant community. Most of them were Persian elite that left Iran when the regime changed. They were generally very wealthy and very well educated. Yet as a minority group they received a notorious reputation for violent crime. Apparently there was a small gang that called itself "Persian Pride". For some reason this particular gang got a hugely disproportionate amount of media coverage, which led to the entire community being badly stereotyped.

Another example of disproportionate media coverage is biker gangs. I have known dozens of bikers and every one of them is a law abiding citizen. Yet you may have noticed that biker groups in general have a bad reputation. It is all about disproportionate media coverage. If bikers were a "race" then most people would be accused of being racist against them.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
18 Aug 2015 /  #628
bad reputation

You know what they say about one rotten apple spoiling the barrel.
Polsyr  6 | 758  
18 Aug 2015 /  #629
the barrel.

Sure. The rotten apple has to be taken out.
Tori  
18 Aug 2015 /  #630
[quo(Why do racists always put 'ect'?)]
Because there is more however they hope you get the gest of it with what has been printed.

As you can see from this forum, however, there are other viewpoints.

Yes Roger, mostly Progressive Liberal British view points.
As you can see in this thread that most of the native Poles disagree with the Brit's wishing they would
go back to Britain.
All the Americans disagree with the Brit's.
So yes, very understandable that their are different viewpoints.
The main view point has become that It is o.k. to be a racist.
It may not be politically correct but it is correct in many cases..
Nothing wrong with being a racist if it is for the good of the country.
If it is not broke in Poland why try to fix it with British Liberals that have destroyed their own country with
their silly beliefs. Just look at London and what socialism and immigration has done to it.
Poland wants no part of that thank you.

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