Is the palace in Warsaw going to be rebuilt?

I think if Hungarians can do it, Poles have the sources to do it too:
reddit.com/r/hungary/comments/d5oddv/hungarians_rebuilding_their_traditional/

BTW, much better than the modernist/ugly modern museums they have build in some places.

There is sth wrong with logic in your post.

The title of your link is Hungarians rebuilding their traditional architecture which was torn down by the Communists.

What does it have in common with rebuilding the Palace of Culture and Science in Warsaw?

I meant the old castle lol, it was a separate thread. Wrong choice of words on my part.

Oh, I see.
Yet, there is still sth strange in the air. Do you want to rebuild the Royal Castle in Warsaw?

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@pawian
And I guess Poles did pretty well taking into account what Germans did to it.
pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Castle_Warsaw_1941.JPG



Unless he meant the Saxon Palace.

Aargh, now I got the idea what he/she was talking about. :):):)

Hey, Zppla, you should add the proper names of places coz there are a few palaces or castles in Warsaw.

Ok sorry, yes the Saxon castle. Abominations like the "East gate" brutalist buildings must be replaced with sth that looks and feels more Polish.

So what is in the Pałac Kulturalny? for those that have seen the classic serial ekstradycja , the building contains seven underground stories with a nuclear bomb shelter at the bottom. It seems to be filled with business offices , the strip club at on the ground level to mafia connections. Who is profiting from it? Are those businessed quatered there happy ?

As for the Saxon Palace, I believe there have been some plans but we-re talking about an almost complete reconstruction. Right now only the part with the Unknown Soldier's Tomb still exist.

There's something really moving about it. The tomb in the only part of the dynamited palace that remained.

I am against rebuilding the Saxon Palace. Firstly, it wasn`t such a great piece of art. To me it looked boring and typical.
Secondly, the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is a sacred place. Nothing should be changed around it.
Thirdly, the vast square near the Tomb is a good place to hold ceremonies etc.

All in all, it is PiS` another crazy idea.

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The Pałac Saski nicely closes up the Piłsudski Square (formerly Saski Square) and would in no way would be obstructive to ceremonies.To the contrary, it would set nice background to those ceremonies.

Likewise, the Saxon Palace would have set a nice background to the Saski Garden on the opposite side.

Part of the project should have been the rebuilding of the Brühl Palace adjacent to the Saski Palace.

Ok, ceremonies won`t suffer, then.

Although a " nice background" is a very disputable issue. :)

How about my second point: sacred place?

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The place will remain intact as it is indeed a surviving part of he Palace, so where's the problem?

Thanks for the aerial perspectives. They show what a nice frame the Palace would be for the Saski (Piłsudski) Square.

Not nice to me. But de gustibus non es disputandum . :):)

One last argument: I would be against spending so much money on a building whose only significant characteristic is it was huge. :)

I would be coz it is Warsawians to decide eventually. I think they should hold a referendum coz it is their money.

I love that idea! It would be great to transform poland so the citizens have referendums on important issues like switzerland.

In case of the Palace, I meant residents of Warsaw, not all citizens of Poland.

Im from Zielona Góra and i don't want to pay for that. If Warszawa want's to rebuil that they should teke money from their local samorząd.

To be fair Warsaw taxpayers do plenty for the rest of the country, and will be doing even more after these elections.

But I am against this project - in its current form its an elegant reminder of Polish sacrifice and I like watching the ceremonies there if I am walking by.

Phew, most people have no clue what it is. Reminder my foot.


Has someone ask you to do it? In your region you have more mafia and criminals per head than anywhere else maybe that should be your focus?

Lol. If they will want to cover that with taxpayers money... yes They did ask me!
Besides... "Czym dalej na wschód tym większy smród"

lol, do you think that has anything to do with you? It might ( I disagree) have been some kind of a local truism for Wielkopolska or Slask long time ago before Soviets'. However it doesn't have anything to do with you or your region, it is funny how you just jumped on a bandwagon basing it only on a geographical location.

Doesn't pertain in the slightest to so called recovered territories. If anything more criminals, bums in your area than anywhere else in Poland.
So some dumb slogans won't change reality.

Interesting. Where did you get it from? Polish Emigre Bulletin? :):)

@pawian
Ironside anything Poland has to google up.
Such "Polish" he is lol

They're good architecture.


Quite. It works well as it is now.

Yes, now the place is called The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.


The problem is that in the future the place will be called The Saxon Palace with the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Do you see the difference?

If I was a Warsavian, I would protest.

Years,maybe 5/8/10 I did see the grounds around it was dug and had rooms,kinda made tunnels around it.I was walking around that and did see kind of cemented cemented thingy that re[presents a siding or walls base on the grass.(I cant explain what it represents but I have seen the dug ground that had kinda cubicles and a pathway}Now you can see the green grass and just the cement roots kinda thingy.I always wonder why did they cover those rooms and ways?

No one is going to call the place with this most absurd name as you propose. The Saxom Palace will be Saxon Palace and the surviving part will still be the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

The Saxon Palace is an important part of national heritage in Warsaw. It should be rebuilt and will be rebuilt despite of what the rednecks of Zielona Góra and other regions of the country may think of it. The Palace may eventually take a different architectural shape than before 1939 as has been the case with the Royal Castle in Warsaw which was rebuilt in an older shape than that from before the WW II.


The ceremonies take place on what was once the cour d'honneur of the Palace. A re-built Palace will not take over any part of the place they are held on.

Actually, the tomb of the Unknown Soldier was there before the destruction of the palace. And it might not have been a coincidence that it was the only part to have survived. Allegedly one of the German soldiers took the dynamite away from that part to honour an unknown soldier.

As for rebuilding of the palace, it will cost a fortune for sure. I'm not sure how certain ceremonies will be held if it turns into a construction site. On the other hand, once I read an interview with a man responsible for rebuilding a castle (in Bobolice I think ) and he said that had he left it in ruins as it had been, it would have been honoring the enemy who'd destroyed it. Perhaps there's some truth to it.

Anybody who is for the rebuilding of the Palace and originally comes from Warsaw - I shut up and do as you wish.

In other cases, I am against.

:):)