Polish natural remedies and homeopathey better than English

Perhaps because it's quackery.

Herbal medicines (St John's Wort is a fair example) have their place, but they are no substitute for real medicine. And homeopathy just doesn't work any better than a placebo.


Very sensible.

Another issue is those people who won't have their kids vaccinated and thereby put others at risk.

Depending on the ailments food and diet is a perfect alternative to pharma industry created alternative. If pharma medicine was so perfect. then why is there a disclaimer on every OTC and prescribed medicine?

Because you can't sue a plant?

I've heard about some uncle of acquaintance, who was treated with homeopathics by somebody from the family. Now his skin cancer developed so much that doctors say that he has only months to live left. Before it was treatable with genuine medicine.

Less often than you'd think, especially if the remedy has plant extracts. Herbal remedies have been effective for centuries as I said before many modern medicines are analogues of plants anyway. As I also mentioned there are obviously illnesses that require more than homeopathic/herbal treatments but there are many that don't. Even if you think about anti biotics they are derived/copied from natural sources e.g. molds. The pharmaceutical industry is really not a nice one and there is a lot of unnecessary and sometimes dangerous medicating.


That's a sightly different issue, vaccinations work in a different way from therapeutic drugs. I would however agree that unless there is a very important contraindication, people should be vaccinated against illness.

There is always a joker in the pack...

If it is homeopathy from a apatek/chemist then there is also a disclaimer on the instructions. There are no medicines conventional or non conventional which are absolute 100% guaranteed.


There are enough investigative journalist reports to suggest there could be an on-going current massive media misrepresentation, profiteering on risky and valueless vaccines, gross neglect of data evidencing earlier similar man-made plagues including SARS, West Nile Virus, AIDS and more; continuance of genetic studies breeding more mutant flu viruses likely to outbreak in the future for the benefit of pharmaceutical-petrochemical industrialists allegedly operating above the law in many documented instances.

it is "dying out" because modern medicine wasn't an option years ago, they did with what they had. they also died of basic infections all the time because they didn't have......modern medicine.

for small things like colds and such, sure, do your homeopathy thing, but we all know everyone gets over colds and the flu regardless of what they take or don't take and there's no saying whether your whiskey and honey cocktail helped your child get over a cold in 13 days instead of 14.

agreed that things like antibiotics are delved out waaaay too frequently, poland being a huge culprit of this. if it's a virus, you're wasting your time. BUT, if you got something like strep, you better go the prescription route instead of vodka and pepper, otherwise you're simply prolonging someone's suffering.

Essentially 'staged events' for profit then warszawski.

I liked the recent story regarding GlaxoSmithKline bribing Chinese Doctors to promote their drugs.


theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/22/glaxosmithkline-admits-bribery-china

I actually meant the tried and tested vaccines usually given in childhood but I should have made myself clearer, my bad.
Definitely something to think about here, especially with the viral illnesses, some are useless and little more than money making schemes.

I am not qualified to suggest events are staged, although ' big pharma' does not seem to be in the interests of widows and children...

The big problem with homeopathic 'remedies' is that they don't have any extracts at all, plant or otherwise. They're diluted so much that they're just water. Bach flower 'remedies' are another bit of pseudo-science.

If people believe things like homeopathy, bach remedies, hopi candles, reiki etc are good for them - there's no problem in using them. People might feel better after them - and that is always good.

After all, they don't harm anyone just as they don't cure anything. The important thing is that in the case of serious illness they are never, ever, used instead of real medicine prescribed by a qualified doctor.

You are most definitely a Richard Dawkins advocate.

Your views on homeopathy and religion are carbon copy of RD.

Read a book called " Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre.
It debunks all the myths about the results of clinical trials are worded.
Homeopathy and Naturapathy are just scams.

Read a book by the same author titled "Bad Pharma"

I once sprained my ankle at a Polish church. A Polish man there suggested, I rub my ankle with mint leaves soaked in castor oil.

To be fair the science there is pretty sound, although the castor oil isn't really needed and mint leaves don't have THAT much menthol in them. But it works along the same lines as Ice Sprays you get. Menthol gives a cooling sensation and that will help stop it swelling so much.

In saying that, ice would have worked better.

I haven't read any of his stuff, but I do believe there's a role for faith healing, herbs etc. Just a complementary role - modern medicine is there to save and improve lives, not just make money for those who distribute the product.

You've obviously never tried Oregano Oil P73.


Just water!! they're just water says Jon.


They don't cure anything he says, just to clarify are you saying natural remedies don't cure anything? confirm that before i rip you apart. (will you threaten court action again for that comment?) How's the court action going by the way?


Doctor = A legal drug dealer who has been influenced by big pharma.

water and sugar :)


sometimes not curing is harming

and sometimes the medicine is worse than the disease.

Prozac isnt meant to cure, its meant to create addiction and MONEY.

I agree when we separate the good of medicine ' the doctors' against the evil of medicine ' pharmaceutical-petrochemical industrialists'.

I'd be careful of describing business as 'evil'.

Watch out warszawski Jons gonna threaten you with court action next.

just like he did to me here: ohh its been deleted, you do realise youve given me free pass to ridicule you for years with that one?

You are a very silly person. Abolished money yet?

Life is full of juxtapositions: evil versus good is a broad concept it typically deals with an association with life.

Saving lives by investing in scientific research and clinical trials then producing and marketing medicines is not evil.

It isn't asset stripping, it isn't high interest loans to the feckless, it isn't encouraging people to spend. It's honest business.

The proof is in the fact that many ailments are now survivable.

Many homoeopathic medicines in the past were in fact poisons and killed you anyway.


So people are beginning to realise they are what they eat? Old man says you are what you wear. Wear well! Young man says you are what you eat. Eat well!

Eating a balanced and varied diet, getting enough sleep and avoiding copious amounts of alcohol will keep you away from the doctors and quacks in most cases. A lot of homoeopathic medicines, in one way or another help you sleep. They promote the bodies natural healing process. Getting enough sleep seems to be the key.

Have you read the book 'overdosed America'?

You can watch this link and listen to a professor of medicine discuss this topic
youtube.com/watch?v=_RKd4P_tqYo

I would be interested to hear your opinion afterwards.

@warszawski: of course there is overuse of drugs, that's why in many cases placebo is not bad. On the other hand you cannot say that's just evil. In the end never before human was living so many years.

If it is not for the greater good, then what other word can be considered maybe wicked,sinister, underhand or immoral you choose.