Homosexuality in Polish Culture

Oh get real, you got what you were hoping all along for.....and secondly people posting here are citizens of the world. Not Poles.

Pol3, with your extensive experience of being gay and living in Poland, we bow down to your wisdom. Bow down, yes, not bend over ;) Don't get too hopeful :)

The interesting thing is that most men who are bothered by two men kissing in public wouldn't be bothered by two women kissing in public.

Nah,marynka, the thing is,men who would never dream of kissing another man couldnt care less what two random people do to/with each other,it seems to me that only men with a secret seem to give a second glance.......its classic self loathing /projection.

hahah - dualistic trap - you shouldn't watch gays getting physical cause you would be deemed gay instantly - look where this things take - and what if just want to watch and see - just out of curiosity ? :)

I also disapprove of the urban black criminal ghetto culture. Does this mean really I'm a closeted black? Lol...

this whole discussion is silly. how can one disapprove of what other people do in their bedrooms who they want to spend time with. 1. who cares and 2. what gives one the right to do so. if one doesn't like guys dating guys, well, don't date one. do gays tell straight people who to date and who to marry, and how to f*ck?

I would have a lot of opinions about who my friends and family decided to date or marry at some point, but it's none of my business and not my place to do so, and I would not broadcast my opinions to the entire world.

Would you broadcast your sexuality from a parade float while scantly dressed and grinding on a man?

i can see how it could be fun :)

but seriously, if someone wants to do it, why on earth would I care? I wouldn't expect people to have any business in my choices of wardrobe or who I want to physically close to, would I?

straight people broadcast their sexuality all the time. on parade floats, on TV, in media, in real life...

Excellent post, ItsAllAboutME.

ItsAllAboutMe wrote:


Jesus, Jesus and Jesus.

simple.

St Paul if anything. There's no record of Jesus ever expressing an opinion on the matter.

At the risk of sounding thick, could you please explain? I see absolutely no connection whatsoever between the leader of a bronze age desert cult and a discussion on homosexuality.

Iron age my man Iron age.

Man of Iron.......how gay does that sound.

Deductive reasoning is not always right. Jesus said that a man should take one women. Christians assumed that a man mustn't take a man then. However, Jesus said in his most important commandment to love one another as he loved us. So if anyone claims they live by Jesus' word, they would just let the homosexuals be. The thing is, the homophobes use the religion for their hate arguments, and hurt both, the issues at hand and the religion.

Being that the majority of Poles are catholic there isn't arguments in how to interpret the bible in the way Protestants are free to. The Catholic church considers the 'act' as sinful, as is mastubation.

So as I am without sin I cannot cast any stones ;)

One can seee that the image of Satan quoting biblical passages is more than just a metaphor.
Some on PF are bending the Good Book's itnerpretation to suit their own designs.
The only time the Prince of Peace even suggested violent punishment for a sinner was the passage where someone scandalising the innocents should have a millstone tied round his neck and be cast into the sea.

All the deviates who are constantly flaunting their dissolute promiscuity in people's faces and forcing their skewed anti-values on others seem to be the prime target of those remarks.

Another passage says (my paraphrase): If your brother (meaning fellow-man) acts improperly, call him to order. If he ignores you, bring along a witness to your admonition. And if he still proves incorrigible, then you may disown him.

How would you know?

Ok, Polonius, and who decides what improperly means?

Pol3 most if not all religions are based on fear not love thats why the Prince of Peace needs Hell.


There is a thread about Mumbo Jumbo.

No, I think you are getting it wrong. Most religions are based on love. Hell is really handy for the churches to scare people into submission and donations.

isn't it fear based than? :)

That's why i think churches and religion are two different things.

teflcat wrote:


what is there to explain.

it's common knowledge that the catholic faith is no fan of homosexuality, along with many of its followers. which is quite ironic because.......bec......well.......yeah, no time for jokes.

When I was a kid I thought the Catholic Church and Christianity were the same thing. Then I grew up.
The Catholic Church would better be named the Pauline Church. When I hear the likes of Rydzyk I think, "Yes, that's Catholic, but it's not Christian."

teflcat wrote:


regardless, Christians as a whole are not terribly fond of homosexuality/same sex marriage.

10 (comandments) and 8 (beatitudes) - it's all there and tells you right from wrong. Or you can create your own selfish, libertine behaviour pattern and do only what feels good, is profitable, convenient or fun and to hell with the rest. You'll be in very large company.

these are the rules you as a person can choose or choose not to live by. you can't impose them on anyone else. hence they should not be legislated or considered in public discourse.


it's quite interesting that the only two options in your mind is either be Christian or be an essentially immoral person.

it may surprise you that there are plenty of non-Christians who honor their parents or other people who took care of them, do not kill, do not steal, do not deceive, not because they belive in some mythological figure that will send them to hell for disobedience, but because they know, too, that these things are wrong

which one do you mean here?
lets face it, a Roman Cathloic lecturing on the 10 commandments is on sticky ground ....

2."Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above..."
This prohibits the construction or fashioning of "idols" in the likeness of created things (beasts, fish, birds, people) and worshipping them (aniconism).
So,better get rid of all those little statues of "virgins" and grim woodcarvings of jesus hanging by nails on a cross then.

OOps,sorry,Im forgeting that once again with so called religious people they tend to pick and choose which things to follow and which to ignore..wearing wool and cotton today or ever? Shame on you,you should be stoned to death for that Biblical sin you hypocrite.

I don't know much about Polish culture and nothing about being gay but my own guess is that it isn't too popular on any building site in any country. Maybe he should just find a new profession.