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Bishops defend Polish family


OP polonius  54 | 420  
12 Oct 2012 /  #91
If Poland's birth rate being 209th out of 222 countries is not a falling birth rate, then what is. OK it could be 222nd.
Harry  
12 Oct 2012 /  #92
Even Poland being 222nd wouldn't be a problem: there's no shortage of people on this planet, quite the reverse in fact. It's good to see Poland leading the way in dealing with the global population bomb.
OP polonius  54 | 420  
12 Oct 2012 /  #93
And space aliens will be supporting Poland's old-age pensioners of 10 and 20 years from now. Poland is in the throes of a serious dmeographic crisis, even your hero Donny Boy says so, so it must be true!
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
12 Oct 2012 /  #94
And space aliens will be supporting Poland's old-age pensioners of 10 and 20 years from now.

There's plenty of Ukrainians and Belarusians to go around.
Harry  
12 Oct 2012 /  #95
^ And it's not as if India or China would miss a few million people. There are plenty of people on this planet, and those who do have the ability to limit family size most certainly should do that. Well done to the Poles for leading the way.
OP polonius  54 | 420  
13 Oct 2012 /  #96
Harry, you should move to China. Chinamen need your enlightened advice more than Poles do.

Archbishop Tadeusz Gocłowski said in a homily marking Papal Day at Warsaw's Holy Cross Church: 'European civilisation and its identity is threatened by the questioning of the family -- the essence of a durable bond between man and woman. That topic is increasingly being raised in great, seemigly wholly secularised France... Marriage and the family should receive legal and material protection so as to avoid tragic conseuquences. Such a conseuqence would be a sick family requiring treatment.'
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
14 Oct 2012 /  #97
You're right but when such message is continually wrapped up in religious undertones, more harm than good is done to the cause.

FAMILY IS THE BACKBONE OF PROGRESSIVE CIVILIZATION. RELIGION AS WE KNOW IT IS NOT.
Harry  
14 Oct 2012 /  #98
^ China seems to have realised what happens if people are so selfish that they have as many children as they want to. And they know what to do with priests who tell people it's OK to be selfish. So I doubt they need me.
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
14 Oct 2012 /  #99
Instead of spending all your time on line bemoaning the death of families why not go out and either find yourself/start a family or if you already have one,hey,spend some time with them.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
14 Oct 2012 /  #100
And progressive civilisation means free condomisaiton of school children.

You're just just further proving my point.
You've made a list of things that can be construed as problematic/destructive in our modern societies and pretend anyone who isn't religious somehow supports these things.

Why didn't you include these things: people forced to live together unhappily; church owned media publishing púrnography; priests raping innocent children?
Why didn't those factor into your list?

When you use these issues to push an underlying religious message, you're sabotaging the more important message.
sobieski  106 | 2111  
14 Oct 2012 /  #101
, maybe removal of crosses fromn church steeples as violating separation of Church and state in public space

Interesting anecdote is that in Belgium the church tower is property of the state (and this since the aftermath of the First World War), whereas the church belongs to the parish.

The Polish episcopate giving us lessons in moral behave....Funny....A substantial part of it actively supporting mr. maybach...
OP polonius  54 | 420  
14 Oct 2012 /  #102
Rydzyk is an astute entrepreneur, and that should warm the heart of all you economic liberals aka captialists. He set up a media empire, academic institutions and is developing a hydrotherrmal project.

I also am suspicion of anyone (cleric or layman) who feels he has to impress epopel by surrounding himself with all the fancy and pricey sheet metal of a Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Jaguar, Infiniti, Volvo, etc. But not all of you believe in 'less is better' and 'good enough' lifestyles, so why pick on someone who fancies a Maybach or Bentley?
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
15 Oct 2012 /  #103
Rydzyk is an astute entrepreneur, and that should warm the heart of all you economic liberals aka captialists.

Astute? The guy has made his money from exploiting the concordat as well as exploiting elderly, vulnerable people. That's not astute, that's criminal.

He set up a media empire, academic institutions and is developing a hydrotherrmal project.

Is that really what priests should be doing?

Rydzyk lost sight of what it means to be a priest a long, long time ago.
OP polonius  54 | 420  
15 Oct 2012 /  #104
But you don't like priests in the first place and despise Chrsitianity so to you anything should be better than that.
Isn't ironic, ludicrous and downright absurd when an inveterate Church-basher dons the mantle of a Defensor Ecclesiae!
smurf  38 | 1940  
15 Oct 2012 /  #105
Rydzyk is an astute entrepreneur, and that should warm the heart of all you economic liberals aka captialists. He set up a media empire, academic institutions and is developing a hydrotherrmal project.

bah-hahahahahah
Rydzyk is the 2nd most hateful/hated man in Poland.......after chairman troll-monster-in-constant-black-suit-and-tie

Rydzyk lost sight of what it means to be a priest a long, long time ago.

+1

'European civilisation and its identity is threatened by the questioning of the family -- the essence of a durable bond between man and woman. That topic is increasingly being raised in great, seemigly wholly secularised France... Marriage and the family should receive legal and material protection so as to avoid tragic conseuquences. Such a conseuqence would be a sick family requiring treatment.'

Yea, I'm gonna listen to a dude that dresses up in tunics every weekend giving advice about marriage and family. A man who has never had children (we're not counting molesting them) and who's never been married.

Polonius stop blindly following such garbage and please stop repeating your boring mantras here every single day. Go outside, smell the roses, learn to play the guitar, something, anything, just please stop ruining this forum. This is not your mouthpiece. You probably think you are instigating discussion? Well, you aren't. Please stop, you're killing this forum.

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