Are Blackberry devices popular in Poland among business and individuals?

With a lens that small anything over 2mp is expense which is not needed anyway. The lack of support for bluetooth stereo is annoying but was apparently a deliberate (and erroneous) decision and will soon be fixed. 16Gb is more than enough memory anyway. Turn-by-turn GPS is coming soon or available now if you don't mind the jailbreak. The battery is replaceable but not a simple matter.

What's your house made of?!

I meant when you need to replace the battery on the iphone it is a pain? do you have to return it back to base for a few days? On a normal mobile phone you don't need any special tools to change the battery


to be honest internet browsing is crap on any mobile phone, I would prefer browsing on a pc anyday. ;) Oh I forgot there is no video cam on the iphone as well;)

I'm with you don't worry. I meant you got me on that one as in I have no retort! My batterry has lasted well and it's been one year now but I would like to be able to slot in another...as I said you got me there...


I like the experience on the iPhone to be honest. I was posting to pf whilst waiting to get my hair cut today.

I have the Cycorder application and video recording works just fine ;P

Well I agree that the iphone is a nice looking phone, and was just pointing out that a few items on it, seem a little primitive for it to be called "the most advanced mobile device available". Each to their own eh? ;)

I agree 100% but just to temp you.. I don't know if you have iTunes but check out the Polish learning apps available on iPhone... useful!

Anyone heard of storm?

Its like iphone, but it has clickable touchscreen.

Btw, Opera mini fixes a little bit the problem with visiting and rendering full-size web pages. Its fast. Faster than BB Browser.

Yes.


It's nothing like an iPhone except for the fact it has a touchscreen. It has very bad reviews.


You shouldn't have to download a web browser on a device with one built in already. IMO.

Not the whole world, but some critical operations at work may need immediate attention. I set my BES to send email to my BBerry device before it goes to my Exchange server.


Perhaps you can't. Ask for help someone who can.

Source? (no url necessary if this violates forum guidelines). Its only first generation of this device. First generation of Iphone as well other mac devices had a lot of flaws.

Both phones have advantages and disadvantages. For this forum I will speak on the advantage of Storm and list features iPhone does not have yet:

1) Camera 3.2 megapixel vs iPhones 2.0
2. keyboard: clickable touchscreen feedback instead of touchy - this makes easier to make less mistakes when typing and less rely on software spelling correction.
3)Stereo Bluetooth - iphone's currently mono only*
4. Removable Memory
5. Removable battery
6. Copy cuts rejoice*
7. Very compactible with Microsoft Office products, comes with software to view and edit documents in Word, Excel, and Powerpoint. Can iPhone do that?
8. Higher screen resolution
9. GPS with Turn by Turn dicretions - more detailed directions than the iPhone

* feature coming up with new OS X software for iPhone this summer

It looks like RIM was really smart when it designed the Blackberry Storm to compete with iPhone and G1. It carefully added some features currently iPhone does not have.

Source: Wireless and Mobile News. Verizon's BlackBerry Storm Has 10 More Power Features than iPhone. November 16, 2008

I'll sort this out later.


See my above arguments about lens size.


Irrelevant. Personal preference.


Currently.



Correct. See above.


Currently.


Yes through third party applications, can read documents already.


Detailed? more so than gmaps list view?

End of the day it's well known iPhone is still better.

"Irrelevant. Personal preference" :)

My opinion, Blackberry is just better for email and push data (on BES), iPhone much better for multimedia.

Not everyone thinks this way :P. For now, I am sticking to RIM Blackberry. I know other people who had original iPhone and switched to Blackberry Bold. One of the reasons people stick with Blackberry is security. iPhone does not offer the same protection, so while it is very consumer friendly, it is not too much corporate friendly.

On May 26 2009 and May 27 2009 there will be a conference in Chicago focused on recovering evidence, personal and corporate data assets from the iPhone and the iPod Touch. One of the discussions will be about how to break into v.1.x and v.2.x passcode-protected iPhones or how to effectively interrupt the iPhone 3G's "secure wipe" process.

"It's clear that this workshop will disseminate information that will make the iPhone and iPod Touch less secure. Apple is trying to keep the device safe--some previous iPhone OS updates tackle security issues--but the company must still have a long way to go if O'Reilly has enough fodder for this workshop. Worried? Send an e-mail to Apple demanding solutions that prevent the dissemination of personal information from a lost iPhone or iPod Touch."

Source from Cnet, "iPhone forensics seminar to expose security holes?" by David Martin

iPhone is better all around.

so nerrrrrrrr!

:D

Blackberry!

I don't have to argue.

Sales figures speak for themselves.

:)

Apparently you can't make telephone calls on either of them ;)
They forgot about that function with all the other stuff they do.

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YgW7or1TuFk
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6IRVs4hXDIU

Actually my grandad even figured out how to make a call on mine the other day and he's 67 :)

Just this past Friday I bought a BBerry Storm for a fella who needed one with MIKE (one way radio). I was surprised to find out the device cannot send SMS to regular cellphones without third party software.

Surely not? third party software for sending sms? I can't believe it...

I don't think they have to install 3rd party for sending sms. You're probably exagerrating. It must be something with settings.

Regarding sales figures they varies by region/country. But in the U.S both manufacturers report rise in sales and rim leads because it sells more than one variety of the phone and sells through all carriers. It won't quickly loose its customers in near feature, especially among business users, I don't see any reason for it.

iphone does not support BES and so far apple did not come with this solution yet, except support for MS exchange. It doesn't support MDS, MVS and other features.

Agreed.


This is turning into something different. The reason why I believe that iPhone will become the winner of this race are the innovation in iPhone as a platform.

I'm sorry but if you honestly think that the Blackberry store which launches shortly will compare I'm afraid you will be sadly mistaken.

A few facts.

The iPhone SDK has been downloaded 800,000 times since it's release with more than 50,000 developers in the software development program there is simply no argument with these 2 figures and quite frankly even with the amount of devices running the Blackberry OS it still does not stack up application wise (and I believe it never will).

The app store has over 800 million apps downloaded to date this is a phenomenal success and I would personally be surprised is the Blackberry store moves 800 million apps in the next 10 years all this in the time space from June 29th 2007 until today. A completely new yardstick by which mobile devices are measured.

BES is a niche market and belongs only in the business place any normal person is happy with the MS Exchange push service if they even need that. I will not go into Exchange push vs. BB push because it's another argument but lets just say do you really need your emails that extra few minutes faster? I doubt 95% of people really do.

The iPhone has sold a staggering 17 million devices since its launch in mid 2007 yes thats 17 million! As I have previously stated this is a new yardstick by which no other hone is measured by.

The arguments are all flawed to me. Yes it does not have a removable battery... yes it does only have a 2MP camera... the list goes on... the point is that this really is a mobile computer in your pocket and Blackberry is a phone with a few good features. If apple wanted to put these features in the phone it would have put them there and they have there reasons for not doing so, Do they want to save some small reiterations to keep you upgrading? I think yes.

As for security well it is catching up and I believe by the time the Rev 4.0 software appears it will be more secure than a Blackberry.

All IMO backed up with solid facts.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone

news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10197216-37.html?tag=mncol;txt

Apple outsells Blackberry
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3402543/Apples-iPhone-outsells-BlackBerry.html

(Bearing in mind RIM has been in the smart phone game since 1995 and Apple since 2007)

Your geekely,

cjjc

absolutely, positively surely.


No exaggerating. This is a model that has been released just a few days ago. Sorta special thingie for those who need one way radio functionality (firemen, ambulances etc) but, strangely, no SMS to regular cellphones.

as for iPod vs. BBerry, the first was designed to be hip and cool, the second was designed for business. Kids and cool people will sell their last shirt to get and iPod. Business people will buy BBerry when makes business sense.

My apologies! :)

You didn't do anything wrong. RIM did :)

Yet, when iPhone can't send MMS since its first release its ok :P


What are you talking about? You think Blackberry is just all emails? Do you know what can MVS do? It makes for ex possible to use Blackberry as your office desk phone and even make international calls cheap as local phones or bill all outgoing calls as incoming calls.

MDS makes it possible to develop rapid applications and install them remotely over the air on all blackberries hooked up to BES and even prevent users from removing them.

IT administrators have the ability to log phone calls, sms, etc on a company's blackberry phones. I don't believe they can do this with iPhone and I suspect that you got it to get around some control :P

Blackberry even released Blackberry Connect software, which can be installed on N_okia, Windows Mobile Devices and Palms. So that proves that BES has its important place in business.

Perhaps most companies in Europe don't utilize BES too much, but in the U.S many do. It allows them to easily manage business and costs. If this will be any company it will be usually a larger company, not small because costs of maintaining BES and Exchange are not small. Small companies usually don't have own Exchange, they use host services.

Gentlemen, I won't take my snickers off. Neither will you! End of arguments!

Business srisness small potatoes.

I wouldn't go back to Blackberry if you paid me the contract fees.

Dobra. Koniec.

Hey Everyone!

Im looking for anyone with a Blackberry from a Polish network. I am collecting information about the MEP security on the Polish carriers and am offering a FREE unlock code for your help! With the code you can use the Blackberry on any network you choose. Please one per person, this is only for collecting information on what security is used on each phone on each network. Please PM for details and Well get you set up.

Thanks for the help!

Anyone got information on the best current deal, for the Blackberry 9780 Bold in Poland