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Locative case and prepositions in Polish


Rain33  14 | 19  
22 Jul 2011 /  #1
I hate asking so many questions on this forum; my teacher once told me that asking too questions is a sign of rudeness, so I will refrain from asking any more.

Anyway, my question. Does anyone know what other prepositions take the locative case? I only know of two prepositions that take the locative case so far-- w and przy--but I keep thinking that there must be others. Can anyone list all the prepositions that take the locative case?
Llamatic  - | 140  
22 Jul 2011 /  #2
Don't sweat it. I'm sure peeps don't mind helping you. That's what this place is for. But I can't help you. Sorry. Lol...
Bzibzioh  
22 Jul 2011 /  #3
polish-dictionary.com/polish-locative-case
SzwedwPolsce  11 | 1589  
22 Jul 2011 /  #4
Bzibzioh's link lists the most common.

Remember that most prep that take locative, sometimes take accusative.

W/na/o are good examples of that.

When they really refer to a location they take locative. In most other situations they take accusative.

Movement to a place takes accusative.

Jestem w szpitalu. (locative)
Jadę do Warszawy w piątek. (accusative) because it is not a place or movemnt. It just specify WHEN something will happen.

Jestem na rynku. (locative)
Idziemy na rynek. (accusative - because it is a movement)

Polish must be learnt systematically. Which book do you use?
I would recommend that you focus on smaller amounts of grammar at the same time. And try to build it more step by step.
OP Rain33  14 | 19  
23 Jul 2011 /  #5
I'm using three different grammar books: "Polish: an essential grammar" by Dana Bielec, "Teach yourself Polish" by M.Corbridge-Patkaniowska (1948 edition), and "Let's Learn Polish" by Zofia Bastgen (there is a section on grammar in the back of the book.)

Learning a language is so daunting--there's so much to learn and absorb, creating sentences on your own, pronunciation, conjugation, vocabulary, etc, etc.
Lyzko  
23 Jul 2011 /  #6
Rain, if I were you and learning Polish for the first time, I'd focus on the sounds of the language, i.e. dictations, to challenge your listening comp. skills. When you feel confident about hearing and eventually speaking Polish with native speakers, preferrably, the albeit brutal grammar will slowly begin to become real for you. Worrying too much though about cases and endings, aspects, counting quirks etc... at the beginning, might prove counterproductive in the long run-:)
SzwedwPolsce  11 | 1589  
23 Jul 2011 /  #7
"Polish: an essential grammar" by Dana Bielec

Many beginners think that this book can be confusing. It is too dense and detailed for many beginners. However, it is good to use it as a reference book.
Chrzaszcz  12 | 103  
1 Nov 2011 /  #8
Merged: Help with Polish locative case

Hey folks
I just need a little bit of help with the Locative case.

In Polish, the sentence 'I am going (travelling) home by bus' is

'Jadę do domu autobusem' (NOUN 'AUTOBUS' IN INSTRUMENTAL CASE - i hope!).

To say I am on the bus is 'Jestem w autobusie'. (NOUN 'AUTOBUS' IN LOCATIVE CASE).

My question relates to the locative case (second sentence). I understand the noun autobus is masculine, and have looked on several noun declension tables to verify the noun endings, and I can only see the noun ends in -e, or -u, not -ie. Why does 'autobus' not end 'autobuse' or 'autobusu', rather than 'autobusie'

Can anyone help?
Dziękuje
mafketis  38 | 11106  
1 Nov 2011 /  #9
The locative ending should be listed as -(i)e or -Je (where J doesn't mean Polish j but a softening of the preceeding consonant).

In other words, the locative -e always 'softens' the previous consonant, this is indicated either by ie (in spelling) or some other consonant change.
Chrzaszcz  12 | 103  
1 Nov 2011 /  #10
Hi mafketis

so to see if I've got it correct.

autobus becomes 'autobusie'. the letter 'i' is inserted to soften the preceding 's' ?

Many thanks for your speedy reply!
Vincent  8 | 799  
1 Nov 2011 /  #11
If it helps, after b,f,m,n,p,s,w and z the ending-e becomes -ie
Chrzaszcz  12 | 103  
1 Nov 2011 /  #12
FANTASTYCZNIE!

Dziekuje mafketis and Vincent. Polish is very difficult, but I will persevere with everyone's help!

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