Love / How many Polish men are Violent how much is domestic abuse reported. [129]

Some women are psychologically abusive and some men are physically abusive. The abusive ones tend to attract and deserve each other. Let them have their utopia.

Love / Polish girls hard in relationships [156]

I appreciate your reply but I'm not sure you read what I wrote very carefully, I did state I would sooner leave than let it come to blows. My only method has been kicking them to the curb but it's a bit frustrating after a while.

"At least be the man and don't let your woman walk all over you and wear the trousers" isn't really advice. That's putting the responsibility on the man for her behavior, that's basically saying she's not responsible for controlling her own behavior. You know else who aren't held responsible for their behavior?

Children. And they aren't allowed to vote.

Love / Polish girls hard in relationships [156]

This forum has some real gems from time to time but posts like the above are truly perplexing. I.e. a large number of men have commented on how the "I'm always right, even when I'm wrong" attitude many Polish women have is a major turn off; basically what a lot of men are saying is it's hard to move forward in a relationship with someone who's always trying to do battle over every little thing. And then, sure enough and early on, along comes a Polish woman to insult them and basically live up to the reputation Polish women are quickly gaining.

She offered zero solutions and just resorted to insults. Okay then, what would you suggest we do, start backhanding you every time you pipe up and step out of line? I'd rather just leave if it comes to that. I don't know when it started but it's like some weird attitude shift has happened among Polish women and it's UGLY.

A woman is supposed to be sensitive as a man is supposed to show courage. An insensitive woman is as unattractive to men as a cowardly man is to women. It's something some women should consider but few actually will.

Love / Polish girls hard in relationships [156]


I swear it, they have the advantage on us in this respect and if you meet the wrong one, you're in for abuse until you leave or remind her of your advantages in other respects.

Work / 2000 zloty in Katowice as a teacher - worth moving there? [33]

Dude, Harry is right.
Their initial offer should have told you everything you need to know about them by now. You think they're going to be straight with you all of a sudden and negotiate in good faith? You think we don't know what we're talking about? They don't need you, they just need you to be a sucker.

Dude, here is the low down on schools in Poland:
THEY WILL TRY AND SUCCEED IN F**KING YOU OVER IN ANY WAY THEY CAN BECAUSE THAT IS INTEGRAL TO THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.
They rely on the naivety of native speakers and your ignorance of how their pay-structure and contracts work....oh and they just straight up lie.

Work / 2000 zloty in Katowice as a teacher - worth moving there? [33]

As a former resident of Canada, I can tell you that for all intents and purposes, money does grow on trees there compared to Poland.

Don't under any circumstances allow yourself to be played the fool and move to Kato for that kind of money. Language school owners make it their #1 priority to pay their staff as little as possible while taking maximum gains. That's their business model and if you want to be a sucker for it then, "have at it man, giverago!"

News / Ania Lisewska, Polish Woman, Wants To Have Sex With 100,000 Men for Guinness World Records. [55]

Her math, among other things, is absolutely fcuked.

Work / 3500 PLN gross - not happy with my salary (working in Warsaw for an international company) [55]

I appreciate others may have other opinions but I hope people are looking at this through your eyes in your situation and not theirs.
If the following things are true:

- You're not happy with your salary.
- You're aware others in similar circumstances are making much more.
- You really enjoy where you're working.

...then if you're going to demand a raise then make sure you stick to your guns and quit if you don't get it by x date. They may flinch at the last moment, and if they don't you can't care. If they don't give in to your demands then that tells you how much they value your work. At present they don't seem to value your work that much. I would use that in the coming negotiation.

Personally I would just be honest and say that I enjoy everything about the job but feel I am making too little money and cannot stay if it doesn't go up retroactively. I would say all the things I like about working there and I would say why I want to be there in the future but tell them I made a bad choice in accepting that money and have too much self respect to continue to take such a low wage.

You can ask why you're being paid so low (that's very very low btw) but in my experience that has only led to long winded and confounding explanations that in the end didn't raise my bottom line.

If you let managers here pay you the minimum, then they will do just that. You already have a precedent for this; see exhibit A, your salary.

Anything short of your net demand with no complicated clauses should be your sign to quit.

If it's bothering you then you have to go after it.

Work / American with E.U. Passport Seeks Poland English Teaching Job Advice [6]

Work for yourself.
Rent an office or become mobile.
Working for a language school is okay for a bit of experience and guaranteed hours but in the long run isn't worth it.
Good luck

News / Have You heard about legalizing 12-hour working day in Poland? [38]

I have seen very little in Polish management styles/attitudes that lead me to believe anything other than managers and owners will interpret this in a way to their maximum benefit and to their employees' maximum detriment.

Real Estate / Foreign investor, properties in Poland, walk away from mortgages? [209]

That could be useful information to nadzski's acquaintance...

Real Estate / Foreign investor, properties in Poland, walk away from mortgages? [209]

It's nice to see everyone joining in to help someone out.


Odd question here but how long does anyone here figure it would take for the the Polish bank bailiffs in question to actually get around to doing that? Like how long would the process take. Are they faster than normal Polish bureaucratic staff and systems?

Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]

If anyone other than kondzior wants/is able to help him make his point or verify his opinion then PLEASE do.


I'm not following and haven't followed a single one of your links. If we were dealing with something less subjective I'd be more inclined to read your links but based on what you've written, I am 100% uninterested in following them.

As I understand it, Science is not a sentient being that can believe or disbelieve anything.
Science is the word we use in English that encompasses the laws we can observe in our universe. We can misinterpret data and arrive at false conclusions but Science allows us to disprove what had previously been proven.


So you're saying that God said something about homosexuality being wrong but it cannot be heard in this reality yet you somehow are aware of it?

The conclusion one must arrive at via this paragraph of nonsense is that you want to get to heaven but you don't want to die to get there.

The theme running through this aberration is that you have no fcuking ability to make yourself understood in the English language on this topic. I mean, look at this:


You asked me for my opinion and then answered it for me with your own question. That's not how a discussion works you half wit!


WHAT THEORY!?!?

Don't reply back until someone else comes onto this thread and supports what you've written.
In fact neither of us should respond anymore until someone else joins this discussion because if you're the only person in this then I'm not even a little bit interested anymore.

UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]


In terms of a frequency spectrum in Ireland, compared to successful deliveries, you're telling me that situation is not on the extreme end?

Read my first response to this thread, you're naive to say the least.


Well it's good to see you're choosing to be more analytical although in this case you're just choosing to be obtuse on a serious matter. Let me to rephrase: If the father was required to make decisions on behalf of his wife and child, how effectively and efficiently would he be able to do that in Poland? Does that make sense to you now, sunshine?


If you want to think that is the beginning and end of it then all I can tell you is there are considerations you obviously have not internalized and I waste 0 more time and energy trying to educate you on the matter.

UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]


Do you know this woman personally? How do you know the reasons as to why the op's wife is keen on Poland?


What is the point of asking such a question?


Let's not turn this into a which system is worse in the most extreme cases. Besides, your comments reach farther than you can prove so it's a bit of an exaggeration to make claims on behalf of "any foreign woman living in Ireland."

Statistically, which is a safer place for a newborn according to perinatal mortality statistics?
If the father was required to make decisions on behalf of his wife and child, in which country would he better equipped to do that?

If the father was required to make decisions on behalf of his wife and child, how would he do that in Poland?
If the mother and newborn had to stay in hospital a little while longer, in which country would that be better for them all?

UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]


That's a separate issue than the one I was asking him to consider. If you've nothing else to say regarding the things I mentioned then please have the last word in this exchange.

I shared my experience with him because it's worth him considering a few things that no one likes to consider. Even if they do decide on Poland, I suggest he consider his ability to communicate in Polish and gather information, he doesn't want to be making any guesses. If the medical situation that mother and newborn don't leave the hospital for a bit then that's something to consider. Flying in terms of safety and risk is something to consider as well. If these ideas offend your sensibilities then that's for you to deal with.

UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]

That is true but I am merely asking him to consider in which country he would be better equipped to make decisions or ascertain medical information, of course language and familiarity with the system are the big 2 to consider there. It is also worth bearing in mind that numbers seem to suggest he would be less likely to have to hand over a brown envelope in Ireland.

UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]

People, rather than bicker over details that are only as good as the methods used to gather them let's go back to original post.

Reggie, run this scenario over in your head and after you think about it for a bit and discuss it with your wife then you'll make whatever decision you think is right:

If something, however unlikely, goes wrong and you have to make decisions for your wife and child would you rather be in that situation in Poland or Ireland? You have to consider your role here and if all goes well, it's a largely supportive one. But what if....? Where is your support network better? Where will you be of more use to your family? How long would you be able to comfortably deal with complications out of Ireland.

Everything will go fine of course but you should consider such things.

Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]


This just reads like semantics to me. Are you going to make a relevant conclusion or leave me guessing at what it is you're trying to communicate?


Greater than her at what? You have to complete the thought and unless you can quantify the general greatness of people you've never met nor have any hope of meeting, your statement is untenable.


A topic or subject that has been studied. Choose one. Here's an example: Comparing the reaction of chlorine to water with trichloramines present. Comparing temperature differences while maintaining all other factors as constants.

Are you actually this GOD DAMNED unfocused or just taking the p*ss? You stated the scientific method is subjective, so I broke it down for you and asked you to tell me which aspects (feel free to add your own) of the scientific method you find to be subjective. I gave you some examples, such as gathering data. Don't reply back with "data of what?" That's not the point you were trying to make. You were trying to make some point about how the scientific method is subjective. Please go ahead and give that idea some legs. I may actually agree with you on some things.


Uhhhhh yeah, I can't agree with you there. To say "science has left the realms of observation and experimentation" is like saying art has left the realms of conceptualization and expression. Without fundamentals then there is no science. Some researchers may only require data and are trying to come to conclusions but that doesn't make all their data suddenly subjective (unless we're going quantum then that's a mindfcuk [but a fun one]).


Lots of people have opinions based on nothing but emotion, so yeah, you're not alone. So what, you're still confusing your opinion with fact, you're still stuck at this child like thought process that basically amounts to:

It is because I say so.


When did God say this? What language was God speaking when this was heard? Who was God speaking to? What was the weather like? Did God say why God create the medical propensity for homosexuality (yes a medical link between circumstances of conception and gestation with homosexuality was discovered some years ago) if God judges it to be wrong?

UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]

I don't know what to tell you other than the truth.
Here, in Poland, there was at least one nurse who really really messed up badly when delivering our son.
Then the doctor in charge of the newborns, well she screwed up really bad too.
The doctor in intensive care made an utterly retarded decision just when he was starting to turn the corner.
Our son has been dead for almost 3 years now he'll continue to be dead every day until I'm dead too.
He had a rough life from beginning to end and I found myself trying to make decisions for him and my wife based on scant knowledge and the infamous p*ss poor communication skills of Poles -nothing was nobody's fault. Everybody covered up for everybody.

If your Polish isn't top notch then you're risking putting yourself in a disadvantageous situation of things don't go smoothly.
A lot depends on the hospital. We trusted the people here to make the right decisions for our son and they failed until they killed him.

Best of luck to you, your wife and the one on the way: )

Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]

Can anyone PLEASE decipher what trump card kondzior thinks he is playing with this:

I am not saying that only evidence and testing can show whether something is true. I am saying evidence, logic and testing are the best ways we have of proving or disproving something. Anyhow that doesn't answer my request. You wrote me this:


I am kindly asking you to tell me what it is you have concluded I think doesn't exist? I didn't claim God doesn't exist. I didn't claim revulsion to homosexuality doesn't exist. So what is it?


Of course it does. But you seem to have come to your own personal conclusions on what truth is and thrust those conclusions onto the rest of us. I'll state this again, just because you think something is so, does not make it so. You may be right but the fact you are so unable/unwilling/lacking in imagination enough to entertain the fact you may very well be wrong is intellectually repulsive.

or is something not true until it can be proven? Because there are a great number of things which we are rational to accept as truth for which there is no "proof".


No, I'm not trolling. You want to entertain a notion yet have not completed that thought and I am trying to help you understand the importance of it. You want to entertain the idea that Beethoven is greater than Brittany Spears. Okay, greater than her at what? Cooking? Singing? Dancing? Composing? Fcuking? Please complete the idea.


What!?!? That's rubbish.
Please tell me in what way gathering data and comparing it against measurable and quantifiable standards in a fashion that can be repeated by anyone who understands the process is subjective. That's the equivalent of saying a recipe and cooking instructions are subjective. As long as the products, produce materials and procedures are the same then there is little to be considered subjective.


This doesn't mean anything to anybody unless the know your understanding of the concepts "reason" and "faith" and on what spectrum you are trying to measure them so as to find something beyond them. It's all a bunch of gibberish. Again this is you confusing your opinion (which may be correct) with fact. You want to believe that then fine but don't go trying to force ideas you can't even comprehend on everyone else. Sort out your own thoughts before you try to sort out how other people live.


The only thing I've taken from this is that you consistently confuse your opinion with truth. Maybe our intellect is made in the image of God and maybe it isn't. Personally, I'd like to think if there is a God then God is a lot smarter than we can understand at this juncture of our existence but until I find some evidence to think one way or the other I have to accept I don't know and that's that.


Well ugly could be quite good if you're a creature in the ocean and don't want to appear too appetizing. Ugly could be good if you're more attractive friends are getting kidnapped and raped while you're let go. I think you don't really understand the concepts you're trying to discuss. I am not confident I do either but I'm more confident you don't.

Yeah gay sex is repulsive to me but gay people seem to like it so why should our revulsion dictate how they act if it has nothing to do with us? Why is your opinion on their sex life more valid than theirs? I don't think it is.

Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]


And what pray tell, is it that you have concluded I think doesn't exist?
What I'm trying to tell you is that so far, evidence suggests that everything exists. Do you understand that?
The only thing which hasn't been proven to exist is "nothing." That doesn't mean nothing doesn't exist, that means it hasn't been proven to exist.


Greater than Britney Spears at what?
First be specific and then try to quantify what it is you're talking about. It's a simple, easy and very effective way of trying to rationally make sense of just about anything.


We don't do that if the criteria for an experiment are judged to be objective, then there is no need to do that.
An experiment should be something which can be repeated. Often this is to test the results of earlier experiments against subsequent testings.

We can call into question anyone's perception of anything. However, before you do that, you should really ask yourself where that will take you. The scientist who runs an experiment can call into question the perception of those who would receive their data. They can call into question others' interpretation of their conclusions, and so on and so forth. I can call into question your perception based on how you're responding to the suggestion one looks at the issue of homosexuality through an objective lens. Your confirmation bias is preventing you from honestly considering the validity of some ideas that conflict with your religious orientation. I could go on but I think you get the point.


I've no idea what you're trying to communicate with this one mate.


It seems you have come to a conclusion based on a nonsensical supposition.
What the heck is the "modern mentality?"
Earlier, I understood that you made a case for individual subjectivity, now it seems like you're referring to it as some general property. I'm sorry but this doesn't make any sense to me. Please reformulate.


No. Perhaps that idea has been attempted but nowadays such an idea would be ridiculed. Sure vibrations can be measured and through this voice recognition and other forms of analytical software can be used but you wrote "the scientist believes he can understand the nature of the composition, by..." That's a pretty big assumption and I think you're only fit to say what your imaginary scientist is thinking.

Lets let other men and women say for themselves what they think or at least provide it in their abstracts.


No.
Because you say something is so, doesn't make it a rule of God or the creator or whatever may be the reason for existence. You confuse your own opinions and beliefs with being facts. Basically, like many religious folks from all corners of the world, you suffer a God complex.


Identify what you believe to be "the principal of unity."


Provide examples of societal institutions and how they ought to be in principle, purely "sanctifying."

Work / Average IT salary in Poland [60]

What's the industry standard in Poland? For a family of 3 and you don't know your way around Poland...? I dunno, I guess there are other factors to consider like potential earnings in the future, experience, working conditions and things like that but from a PURELY financial perspective, if you were one of my friends from back home, I would recommend against it. Keep in mind I know nothing about you so it's like, just my opinion, man.

Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]

I agree in that I'd like to never have to see images or scenes guys being sexually intimate in any way shape or form. However being objective, one has to ask why they should be exposed to images of heterosexual intimacy.

"Sin" has nothing to do with it. A lot of sins are advertised.

Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]


You don't seem to understand. There is no problem with the "natural argument," at least not one that you've suggested. If some people feel revulsion (I do) at the thought of homosexual activity then that's natural and if someone feels nothing then that is natural and if someone likes the idea then that too is natural.


That is incorrect. Proper and improper are subjective, therefore both are natural. Anything you've written arguing against that is false reasoning. You continue to confuse your opinion with fact. You have presented no facts to support your religious beliefs as being the morality by which one should observe the natural world and all phenomena which occur in existence. Until you do so, all that is merely your opinion and nothing else. Please learn to discern the difference between divine and distorted. Good luck.

Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]


The average person would then seem to have invested very little thought into what the word "unnatural" means i.e. the only thing which is unnatural in our reality is nothing as that seems to be the only thing that doesn't exist. If it can exist, then, like it or not, it is natural.

...Desirable and undesirable, normal and abnormal, those seem to be the terms you are trying to communicate.

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]

^ Good summary of events.
More and more, as people are alerted to what is happening and the consequences of it. We have to start to ask ourselves what exactly the best recourse is for the individual to protect themselves from these products. The easy answer is not to buy them and that decision is also made easier through knowing what is in the products we believe to be unhealthy.

Keep up the good work gents.
One old video that I watched a few years back is called "The Future of Food." It really alerted me to some of the practices that have corrupted modern agriculture.

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]


Honestly, if the issue began and ended at McDonald's then there would be no issue. I'm not sure why you've presented it as such but I'm wondering if the reason isn't plain and simple; )

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]

That is the most naive and vain portrayal of an all-knowing, all-seeing, all-existing, all-creating being I've read...and that is me being respectful.

That read more like a conversation someone was having with themselves after learning some simple bits of coincidence.
But it reeks of a life that has been pretty untouched by suffering so I'm going to go ahead and dismiss it as childish and lacking depth from someone who seems untested.

It's that "version" or depiction of what God is that gives so much fuel to atheists. Of the various religious ideas being spouted as if they were true, that stands out as one of the more limited and self-serving beliefs of what God is. Basically it's the most limited description of infinity going out there and that's why Catholics are so often portrayed as stupid because you'd have to be lacking in imagination to decide "yep that's what God's like. Always there to reward me."

If God was really talking to our a**es, then the conversation would look more like this:

Me: On the way home, my phone went dead, just as I picked
up a call.

God: And?

Me: And on top of it all, when I got home I just wanted to soak
my feet in my new foot massager and relax, but it wouldn't work!!!
Nothing went right today! Why did you do that?

God: Let me see, you're complaining about your phone going dead
when at the same time someone else actually went dead?!?
The Death Angel was at your bed this morning and because I control
everything, I just sent him to take someone else. Your a$$ isn't ready
to get into heaven yet ya lazy bum!

Me: But what about my phone?

God: Your phone went dead while going home?
You do realize you have an actual home to go to?

Ya see, for some fcuked up reason I like to give some people
an easy life and then take a massive sh*t on the majority
of the world's population and let them live in crowded
or dirty or dangerous or unsustainable environments -
sometimes it's a combination of all those things....

Oh but that's right, your foot massager wouldn't work.
Do you realize how mind-numbing it is for factory workers to put foot massagers together?!?
Do you realize that the materials for you mobile phone are mined by the company you have stocks in and pays their miners next to nothing?!?

Do you realize how easy your life is in comparison to the vast majority of the planet and how little you're doing to actually make other people's lives easier?!?

From how you travel to what you eat or what you buy and how you make your money, in all those ways you are a drain on the planet. And you just don't see it, do you?

Me: (humbled): OH...

GOD: I didn't let your car start because there was a drunk
driver on your route that would have hit you if you were on the road.
He was drinking because his wife was killed at work when her hair
got caught in a machine...want the details on that?

Me: (ashamed)

God: The first person who made your sandwich today was sick
and I didn't want you to catch what they have, I knew you couldn't
afford to miss work but I still let them get sick even though they work
a crap job for crap wages. You catching on yet as to how easy
you have it?

Me: (embarrassed): Ok...

God: Your phone went dead because the person that was
calling was going to give false witness about what you said
on that call, I didn't even let you talk to them so you would
be covered. For some reason though I chose not to influence
them on the matter but talk loud and clear with you about
everything. So don't waste my time with whining.

Me: (softly) I see God. I'm sorry God.

God: Don't be sorry. Look, you don't live in and
outside of time and are everything individually and
collectively all at once. For that reason it's hard to
convey to you how at odds existence is with itself.

I'm running the show and your brain (which I am
part of) is too feeble to really get all there is to
existence. Life is your task some people have
an easy task, some people have a hard one.

I'm not saying my conversation is closer to the truth, but if nothing else, it's more entertaining: )

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


It is said faith can be a vice or a virtue; )
A lot of things are said. I find the biggest talkers and thereby the biggest hypocrites are those that claim to have faith, speak or behave as though this makes them "better" than others and not see their own sin in doing so.

Repent Polonius3