calliegal235
12 Sep 2011
USA, Canada / Do many Polish people in America hate Americans? [592]
"You look from an American point of view (consumption = religion). What I meant - (not looking at the natural beauty) - what you can see and experience in Florida is the same in California, what is in Chicago is the same in New York - all the same people, buildings, MacDonalds, roads, police, pubs, motels, newspapers, food. "
Wo-No! HaHa! Not all the same! Chicago has the largest population of Poles outside of Poland! No other city in America
can claim that!
I've never been to New York, but I can tell you, it's a bit of a different culture; we don't even have the same sense of humor!
And I remember Tony Randall (actor) who lived in New York, and he said he hated L.A.! Why? Still think they are all the same?
Some of those New Englanders, like Maine, they think all the rest of us are outsiders!
Baltimore City is two thirds black; at my high school there was only one black person, he was staying with a white family
in my neighborhood, and he wasn't there for all four years. My mom, from the Appalachian Mountains, never saw a black
person until she moved away from her city!
I ventured to say, some people in the north and even northwest have no idea what grits are, and even if we all eat cream of wheat, there's a predominant section of the country where is is typically served with salt and butter, and the others eat it
with milk and sugar.
When my mom's six sisters met at their mom's home a few years ago, two of them walked in, at different times, yet both said, they wanted green beans and cornbread! You think that's what they eat in Alaska, where one of those sisters has lived for over 30 years? HaHaHa!
My sister-in-law from Osaka, lived and went to school within a large Japanese culture in San Francisco. She was so disappointed when she move south of L.A. and found she couldn't rely on public transportation to get around like she did in S.F.
It depends on what you make of your vacation. My parents were nearly horrified when they went to Hawaii with friends who only wanted to eat at McDs! My folks wanted to eat at the local restaurants!
I never tasted Key Lime Pie until I went to visit my uncle and aunt in Florida. Key Limes don't grow in CA and we didn't have that
kind of pie!
But I have eaten at several McD in Poland. There was a difference; we were required to pay for each ketchup packet, in at least one McDs. I ate at McD's in Japan too, so that part is not so different anywhere in the world, true.
Oh my gosh what a difference in the weather between coastal California and Florida, or Maryland, or even central California,
where the summer heat is trapped in the San Jauquin Valley. In Fresno, if you have errands to do in the summer, better do them very early, because by 8 am it will be 80 degrees, and the temps will be over 100 about 20 days out of the summer if not more.
My sister-in-law, in adjacent Clovis, explained that having a pool and using it was a way of life there because of the hot summers. I learned never to go anywhere without plenty of water, whether for my car or myself and my kids!
I know, it's not like being in a completely different culture, but when you travel, you are not living the culture like the natives; just visiting.
What's more, if you're American I would not travel in Europe any more.. unless it's strictly business. You know instantly you're not liked and it's also very expensive there now. Go to the Caribbean, Mexico, Costa Rica, Hawaii... (possibly Ireland or Italy but that's all in Europe). You'll be targetted if you go other places including Poland and it won't mean a damn if your last name ends in 'ski.
as previously posted...
What are you talking about? Wow! My husband, from Poland, tells me that Polish people love Americans! I feel perfectly safe in Poland! It's a great place for Americans to travel.
You sound like a person whose thinking was very much formed by modern propaganda, from somewhere; I don't know where! But not like someone who knows much history of Poland and the U.S. Our two countries are so tied together by history. Do you know what a hero General Thaddeus Kosciuszko and General Polaski are in the United States? Baltimore has a statue of Gen Polaski at a big park in the city, and Wash. D.C. has a statue of Gen Kosciuszko. I admire these generals. About Gen. Kosciuszko, Thomas Jefferson said that there was no truer son of liberty; they were close friends.
The U.S. was the first country to have a constitution, but Poland was the second; in the world! I don't like it when ignorant people critizize Poland for the WW II, over which they could have done what? But they don't know the Italian National anthem has a verse in which they praise the Polish fighters who died with them. Nor do the ignorant ones know how Poland saved western Europe from the invaders during the middle ages! Because of Poland, Europe is a very different place than it would have been without the Polish vanguards. I am an American; I was born in Virginia, and some of my family goes back to the 1600s in Virginia, but I learned to remember the Polish flag is white on top, by thinking of their devotion to God, and red on the bottom, by thinking how much red blood they have shed for freedom.
OOPS! I may have veered off topic! So, someone tell me again, why do ANY Polish people in America hate Americans? Have those Polish people forgotten, or never known (because my husband is ashamed how little Polish history he knew - not his fault being educated by communist Russians!) --their own struggle and history regarding freedom?
TheOther
What do you know about shareholders? My dad, who couldn't go to college, helped build a small company, which employeed over 100 people when he retired. He doesn't get a pension from that. He sold his stock, and invested it, to have money to live on for his retirement. He will be 84 this year. He had $30K invested with....GM! You think he'll ever see that? He understands risk; he has some investments which have more risk than others, but what Prez Obama did was outside his constitutional authority. Even if the company goes bankrupt, whatever they have, any assets, land, scrap metal, legally belongs to the stockholders; they take the risks, no one else. Do you have any idea how many of our older citizens depend on those investments, or have pensions tied to those investments (even if they don't know it????) I don't like it when people slam stockholders; stockholders are just regular moms and pops trying to live out their retirement years without having to be a drain on the rest of the population; after all, they were never a drain on the rest while they worked and saved, and didn't live on credit. I feel sick when I hear Obama admins talk about how GM is doing well, and paying back the taxpayers! Give me a break! First, their fellow Americans paid for the GM product (car) and the price was supposed to cover the cost of production and the employees' benefits. Now the American taxpayer (who pays for everything in the world sooner or later!) if really paying for those cars they bought....again! But with my dad, he is paying even more, because he was a stockholder and he's still a taxpayer.
Steveramsfan
What do you mean by legalised?
Not to be racial or anything, but the Germans tried to MURDER the Poles during WWII didn't they? That's actually the reason my mom's family came over here to America, before Adolf Hitler released his wrath on the Poles. But I think most of the Germans were probably good people, I mean, they were probably just following Hitler's orders so that he didn't go crazy and kill their family too!
Hi, Many German people did not support Hitler and his ideas. The Lutheran Pastor, Bonhoeffer, had left Germany, and was
safe in the U.S. when against the advice of friends, he chose to return to Germany. He refused to repeat Hitler's propaganda,
as he was instructed, to his congregation, so the NAZIS (let's not foret, National Socialist German Workers Party) arrested him.
Four days before the Allied troops entered the city where Bonhoeffer was in prison for a long time, the NAZIs hung him.
In America, I figure at least half of us must be "stupid" or terribly uninformed, because our national elections are usually won by very small margins, i.e., we are usually split about 49 to 51 in the percentages.
"You look from an American point of view (consumption = religion). What I meant - (not looking at the natural beauty) - what you can see and experience in Florida is the same in California, what is in Chicago is the same in New York - all the same people, buildings, MacDonalds, roads, police, pubs, motels, newspapers, food. "
Wo-No! HaHa! Not all the same! Chicago has the largest population of Poles outside of Poland! No other city in America
can claim that!
I've never been to New York, but I can tell you, it's a bit of a different culture; we don't even have the same sense of humor!
And I remember Tony Randall (actor) who lived in New York, and he said he hated L.A.! Why? Still think they are all the same?
Some of those New Englanders, like Maine, they think all the rest of us are outsiders!
Baltimore City is two thirds black; at my high school there was only one black person, he was staying with a white family
in my neighborhood, and he wasn't there for all four years. My mom, from the Appalachian Mountains, never saw a black
person until she moved away from her city!
I ventured to say, some people in the north and even northwest have no idea what grits are, and even if we all eat cream of wheat, there's a predominant section of the country where is is typically served with salt and butter, and the others eat it
with milk and sugar.
When my mom's six sisters met at their mom's home a few years ago, two of them walked in, at different times, yet both said, they wanted green beans and cornbread! You think that's what they eat in Alaska, where one of those sisters has lived for over 30 years? HaHaHa!
My sister-in-law from Osaka, lived and went to school within a large Japanese culture in San Francisco. She was so disappointed when she move south of L.A. and found she couldn't rely on public transportation to get around like she did in S.F.
It depends on what you make of your vacation. My parents were nearly horrified when they went to Hawaii with friends who only wanted to eat at McDs! My folks wanted to eat at the local restaurants!
I never tasted Key Lime Pie until I went to visit my uncle and aunt in Florida. Key Limes don't grow in CA and we didn't have that
kind of pie!
But I have eaten at several McD in Poland. There was a difference; we were required to pay for each ketchup packet, in at least one McDs. I ate at McD's in Japan too, so that part is not so different anywhere in the world, true.
Oh my gosh what a difference in the weather between coastal California and Florida, or Maryland, or even central California,
where the summer heat is trapped in the San Jauquin Valley. In Fresno, if you have errands to do in the summer, better do them very early, because by 8 am it will be 80 degrees, and the temps will be over 100 about 20 days out of the summer if not more.
My sister-in-law, in adjacent Clovis, explained that having a pool and using it was a way of life there because of the hot summers. I learned never to go anywhere without plenty of water, whether for my car or myself and my kids!
I know, it's not like being in a completely different culture, but when you travel, you are not living the culture like the natives; just visiting.
What's more, if you're American I would not travel in Europe any more.. unless it's strictly business. You know instantly you're not liked and it's also very expensive there now. Go to the Caribbean, Mexico, Costa Rica, Hawaii... (possibly Ireland or Italy but that's all in Europe). You'll be targetted if you go other places including Poland and it won't mean a damn if your last name ends in 'ski.
as previously posted...
What are you talking about? Wow! My husband, from Poland, tells me that Polish people love Americans! I feel perfectly safe in Poland! It's a great place for Americans to travel.
You sound like a person whose thinking was very much formed by modern propaganda, from somewhere; I don't know where! But not like someone who knows much history of Poland and the U.S. Our two countries are so tied together by history. Do you know what a hero General Thaddeus Kosciuszko and General Polaski are in the United States? Baltimore has a statue of Gen Polaski at a big park in the city, and Wash. D.C. has a statue of Gen Kosciuszko. I admire these generals. About Gen. Kosciuszko, Thomas Jefferson said that there was no truer son of liberty; they were close friends.
The U.S. was the first country to have a constitution, but Poland was the second; in the world! I don't like it when ignorant people critizize Poland for the WW II, over which they could have done what? But they don't know the Italian National anthem has a verse in which they praise the Polish fighters who died with them. Nor do the ignorant ones know how Poland saved western Europe from the invaders during the middle ages! Because of Poland, Europe is a very different place than it would have been without the Polish vanguards. I am an American; I was born in Virginia, and some of my family goes back to the 1600s in Virginia, but I learned to remember the Polish flag is white on top, by thinking of their devotion to God, and red on the bottom, by thinking how much red blood they have shed for freedom.
OOPS! I may have veered off topic! So, someone tell me again, why do ANY Polish people in America hate Americans? Have those Polish people forgotten, or never known (because my husband is ashamed how little Polish history he knew - not his fault being educated by communist Russians!) --their own struggle and history regarding freedom?
TheOther
What do you know about shareholders? My dad, who couldn't go to college, helped build a small company, which employeed over 100 people when he retired. He doesn't get a pension from that. He sold his stock, and invested it, to have money to live on for his retirement. He will be 84 this year. He had $30K invested with....GM! You think he'll ever see that? He understands risk; he has some investments which have more risk than others, but what Prez Obama did was outside his constitutional authority. Even if the company goes bankrupt, whatever they have, any assets, land, scrap metal, legally belongs to the stockholders; they take the risks, no one else. Do you have any idea how many of our older citizens depend on those investments, or have pensions tied to those investments (even if they don't know it????) I don't like it when people slam stockholders; stockholders are just regular moms and pops trying to live out their retirement years without having to be a drain on the rest of the population; after all, they were never a drain on the rest while they worked and saved, and didn't live on credit. I feel sick when I hear Obama admins talk about how GM is doing well, and paying back the taxpayers! Give me a break! First, their fellow Americans paid for the GM product (car) and the price was supposed to cover the cost of production and the employees' benefits. Now the American taxpayer (who pays for everything in the world sooner or later!) if really paying for those cars they bought....again! But with my dad, he is paying even more, because he was a stockholder and he's still a taxpayer.
Steveramsfan
What do you mean by legalised?
Not to be racial or anything, but the Germans tried to MURDER the Poles during WWII didn't they? That's actually the reason my mom's family came over here to America, before Adolf Hitler released his wrath on the Poles. But I think most of the Germans were probably good people, I mean, they were probably just following Hitler's orders so that he didn't go crazy and kill their family too!
Hi, Many German people did not support Hitler and his ideas. The Lutheran Pastor, Bonhoeffer, had left Germany, and was
safe in the U.S. when against the advice of friends, he chose to return to Germany. He refused to repeat Hitler's propaganda,
as he was instructed, to his congregation, so the NAZIS (let's not foret, National Socialist German Workers Party) arrested him.
Four days before the Allied troops entered the city where Bonhoeffer was in prison for a long time, the NAZIs hung him.
In America, I figure at least half of us must be "stupid" or terribly uninformed, because our national elections are usually won by very small margins, i.e., we are usually split about 49 to 51 in the percentages.