News / Skins vs anarchists in Warsaw [93]

Yes, I do like history and it is always possible to discern some sinister omens in these tongues of flame. Now Poles are setting fire on Russian embassy, tomorrow Russians will surely set on fire Praga again))))

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]


- "Tell me, what happened with Poles?"
- "They frozen to death..."

Actually nobody here (in Russia) had even a slightest idea that Poles were so vulnerable to frost. Russians gave to Poles what Germans fought for - vast living space in the East. But Poles were too weak to make it their home....

History / 1772 – Russia, Prussia and Habsburg Austria began the First Partition of Poland [9]


This war would be certain devastation for Poland in first turn, because it would carried on principally in Poland, for, as you rightly mentioned, it was buffer state. However, it is a question which state Poland would sided in this conflict. Partition in this situation was the lesser evil.


The fact is that Poland always was buffer state against Russia. Simple fact that next conflict between Russia and Germany took place only more than one hundred years later, clearly indicates that all partitions and eventual dissolution had been right things to do.

Quite contrary, war of 1812 perfectly shows what independent and "buffer" Poland may be for Russia.

History / 1772 – Russia, Prussia and Habsburg Austria began the First Partition of Poland [9]

For pity's sake guys, you should know that it is hardly Russia has to be blamed for.... This idea came first from Parisian cabinets and was intended to avert more serious disaster as war between Russia and Austria might be. There was no any sense for Russia to divide Polanf, for it was Russian protectorate state without any forced actions. However, Russia was forcibly faced with the fact of partition by Prussia and especially Austria who feared Russian successes in war with Ottoman Empire.

History / Russians 'tortured to death' in Polish camps? [58]


But who gave you the right to proclaim the independence?

History / What are the key features of the Polish Eagle? [56]

In a very simple way. Peter was alfa and omega of Russian life in those times, he was russian Jovi. He both created Preobrazhensky regiment and commissioned its march.

very interesting. now can we get back to the topic.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Is it Putin himself who said you this?

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]



To your understanding of modern situation with education i Russia; there is no centralizing supply of teaching books in Russia. Each school is willing to choose its own textbooks for teaching process. The word "recommended" dose not automatically mean that exactly this book will be bought by the particular school.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]

Absolutely and Decisively

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


The key quotation is this "By Chris Irvine 8:25AM BST 03 Sep 2008". Can you please cite any Russian governmental source of Stalin adoration?

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Lands seized from Poland during the partition of 1939.


It is ridiculous, how you represent and understand current situation inside Russian society. Believe me, nobody here adore Stalin

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Exactly


Lack of time


All these territories were predominantly inhabited by Belorussian and Malorussian branches of Russian people. These lands are not Polish however nostalgic they were about them

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]

Certainly not. That was just side effect. Partition was just the act of supreme justice. We simply returned our own lands lost during time of troubles of civil war.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Yes I am sir....))) but it much better than mumbling all this soft and sweet stuff about St. Poland.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]

Yes. I am proud. I dare to suppose that millions of jews who happened to live on territory liberated by Soviets also would say something grateful for this "occupation".

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


It is nothing more than convenient starting point for Poland and its misfortune allies France and Great Britain. I am sure that for Spaniards it started back in 1936 and for Russians in 1941. It would be too bold for me to assert that Russian did not participate in 1939 campaign. However, why then Brits declared war with such selectivity, only to Germany?

Get back on topic and stop sidetracking.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


WWII started in 1941. Setting it in 1939 would meant that you fall into total voluntarism. Why, in this case simply would not just set 1936 as the real starting point of the WWII?


Pacific Ocean! You forgot to mention that it was Pacific Ocean which dose not have any relation with Polish affairs.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Both Americans and you managed to establish marine routs to Murmansk during WWII and I will never believe that it was impossible to do the same at far close distance between UK and Poland.


I cannot understand this. When we attacked Poland? During WWII? Nonsense!!! You would prefer if we concluded separate treaty with Hitlear, thus leaving Poland in his hands?

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Not that way as you did this.


Oh yes, here you are 100% right. You preferred to obliterate other nations - Indians, Negroes, Sikhs, Chinese. To tie men to artillery guns, to poison by morphine, or simply reduce free men to slavery, that are your styles. It is so British.


What? Am I so simpleton? And what about Britain as greatest marine empire? "Reign Britania" what happened with your fleet?

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


:))) Oh yes... you are always in the first rows. The problem is that you always defend your own interests and do this in the most selfish way. Easy come, easy go. )))) It was very brave to you to declare war, especially when everybody in London knew that fate of Poland would be of no interest for UK-government.

It is a great pity that both Napoleon and Hitler changed their minds concerning the conquest of Islands. In this case you would have a good chance to represent your courage. Though, I hardly remember any direct attack that have been repulsed so far, be that either Norman conquest or Glorious Revolution...

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Not at all. But at least we deserve more respect than Brits and Fanks who left Poland as prey of Hitler. I am 100% sure that Brits being on Russian place would simply have concluded separate treaty with Hitler leaving Poland in his sphere. Instead you profane the memory of those heroes who gave their lives to free Poland.

History / What are the key features of the Polish Eagle? [56]


Nobody knows his name.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Have you read Bulgakov's prose? To be precise, Heart of a Dog's? Prof. Preobrazhensky once said that everyone has to do his particular work. Worker has to work at a plant, doctor has to cure etc. Otherwise the life of the society will fall into total disarray. So, this Zhid, personally I have nothing against Jews, but Kasparov is Zhid, has to play chess. Instead he is trying to do the job which is totally uncharacteristic for him.


The same way as you have it on the western part of the world. With some flaws, but certainly democratic. And common people perfectly understand this and will vote for Medvedev-Putin again, not for Kasparov

This thread is wandering from the original topic

History / What are the key features of the Polish Eagle? [56]

Let say it was Peter the Great himself. )))

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Oh my god, please leave this "zhid" and his friends alone. I have no intention to discuss their idiotic ideas. All in Russia are tired of their burlesque activity. It is well enough that we, Russians, tolerate them.


Seanus, you know my views very well. Though I am not communist, but I respect communism as idea of equal happiness and wellbeing.


Now Russia is sufficiently democratic state. I would assert the fact that Russia is even more democratic than US.

History / What are the key features of the Polish Eagle? [56]

Yes, but rather narrow circles in case of Russia. So I am sure that soon you will witness the new round of expansion...

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Seanus, with all my respect to your person, you simply have only faint understanding of Russian cultural life, whirlpool of ideas and notices inside our society.


Sorry Torq, but the time will come and you will not have a choice. Nobody will be concerned with your personal fillings and attitudes.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


Shame on me... Certainly it should be "are able")). But I have excuse, for Russia is so enormously great that we do not need to speak English well. Instead you have to learn Russian!

History / What are the key features of the Polish Eagle? [56]


What exactly?