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hubabuba   
9 Sep 2011
News / Polish Students Striking in Lithuania [80]

Why should lithuanian kids be taught in Polish in Lithuania?

because Poles were there first?they live there for centuries

And I doubt that names such as "JADVYGA" would ever be allowed to be registered in Poland when there's a Polish variant.

foreigners(also minority) can name their children whatever they like

think about Poland's policies towards minorities, especially german minority.

oh please do tell how they are discriminated?because according to my informations, they have more rights then Poland was obliged to give them

That newspaper is funded by awpl, so any info regarding lithuanian-polish relations or education is not shown in true colors. It is like looking in some polish kresy website. Find some real evidence.

dont talk who funded the newspaper, just say when it is wrong, if it is
hubabuba   
29 Aug 2011
History / Has Poland ever participated in any big wars (except WW2)? [73]

Why negotiate what had already been agreed. And Pilsudski's word counted for very little (see for example the sham mutiny which he ordered).

agreement You are talking about was signed by local authorities, was temporary and it was agreed that final arrangements would be made by the countires goverments. As for Piłsudski I dont really know what to tell You, are You saying that Czechoslovakia should have grabed any land thay felt like because they didnt like cooperating with legitimate Polish goverment?and dont even get me started about Wilno..

No, it was to demand that Poland ceased the election planning.

so in Your opinion it is allright to invade a country and not to seek agreements?werent You saying sth exact opposite just few post ago?

The one which Poland had already breached on 6 November.

how?
hubabuba   
29 Aug 2011
History / Has Poland ever participated in any big wars (except WW2)? [73]

Perhaps negotiating a settlement would have worked? Although Poland would then have had to live up to the commitments it made in the settlement agreements and experience shows that Poland was pretty terrible at doing that between 1918 and 1939.

see how litlle or nothing You know? Piłsudski send a note to Masaryk asking for negotiations, the response on Czech side was- occupation of Spis and Orawa, than attack on Śląsk Cieszyński, which was a breach of 5 November agreement

2 February agreement - again breach on Czechoslovakian side( for example attack between 21-24 February)
also add to this killing of Polish POW

Do you have any links to anything which in any way supports any of that? Or did you just pluck it from the air?

this is pretty common knowledge, why would Poland agree on not taking the plabiscite if it wasnt for this???,doesnt make any sense. Read a book on the topic, if You speak Polish I can give You few titles
hubabuba   
29 Aug 2011
History / Has Poland ever participated in any big wars (except WW2)? [73]

PWEI

So Poland acting contrary to her treaty obligations and refusing all requests to act in keeping with them should have resulted in what? Poland was told to stop doing something she had promised not to do or face specified consequences: Poland chose to face the consequences.

what???are You aware of the obligations that Czechoslovakia didnt fulfill?Poland agreed to give Zaolzie(were majority was Polish)so Czechoslovakia would help in oncoming war by for example letting the trains with bullets and guns through its territory, of course it didnt happen- Poalnd acted accordingly
hubabuba   
29 Aug 2011
History / Has Poland ever participated in any big wars (except WW2)? [73]

Poles too, unfortunately. If Poland had approached 1919 onwards as a reason to create as many allies as possible in this part of the world.

what would you do delphiadomine?give zaolzie(important for Czechoslovakia only for economical reasons) to Czechoslovakia?Greater Poland and Silesia to Germany, and rest should be split between Russia and Ukraine?seriously tell me, how would You dissolve all these conflicts?
hubabuba   
15 Aug 2011
Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]

Shops are the best places to witness silent hostility (a nice paradox).

Yes, customer service is very different in Poland comparing to many Western countries.You were accustomed to a British way of doing things so it is hard for You to digest a Poilsh way.However it works both ways- about 2 weeks ago I was in Kraków, I went to Rossmann near the Rynek, and there was a shopkeeper whoes responsibility was to stay by the door and say goodbye, have a nice day etc. For me it was nonsense. I like to go to my shop take what I need and dont smile around to the people I dont know, it is fake and I dont need this kind of "friendliness".The attitude towards strangers in Poland is much more reserved. I am happy with this silent customer service, and I dont have any problem in the shops with rudeness, it is the goverment offices were the change of attitudes is sometimes were needed but that is a different story

it wasn`t Poles who did it but russians, Germans, Czechs, Ukrainians etc. :):):)

of course it wasnt:]]]]]]!!
hubabuba   
2 Aug 2011
Love / How do Polish guys feel about having an older girlfriend/wife? [30]

unfortunately it is more accepted when a man is older as it is all over the world. But I dont think You should have a problem with the age difference, he is an adult and 8 years is not that much. soooo all the best!!
hubabuba   
23 Jun 2011
Genealogy / Vintage Photos of Polish ancestors [144]

thanks so much, I especially loved the old wooden village houses, they were making countryside beautiful , I hate the fact they didnt preserve, a
hubabuba   
23 Jun 2011
USA, Canada / Thinking about visiting America? Skip it or get molested and arrested for nothing. [79]

wrong, I've heard Polish jokes in just about any country I've been to. There would be no need for them if you guys at least try to keep morons like PiastPoland away from posting on public forums.

really?are You sure they werent coming out of your mouth?there is some nastiness in e.g. Germany or England, but in different area(car theft, job stealing), however the dumb polack jokes are the America's speciality. I think mentioning itby You is silly, when an American is the whipping boy for stupidity all over the world, mind that I dont agree with that, but it is just the way it is

Seriously, what else do they do?

in Poland they build roads. lol
hubabuba   
22 Jun 2011
News / Lithuanian ambassador 'Poles not loyal citizens' [63]

delphiadomine
what problems do You see that Lithuanian minority doesnt?You probably know better about the topic than they do.
in Poland You dont have tv programs in which the blilngual streets names are being torn off, or the songs with the message death to Lithuanians, or marches with the same message, in Poland Poles dont spray Lithuanian embassy
hubabuba   
22 Jun 2011
News / Lithuanian ambassador 'Poles not loyal citizens' [63]

What did I say on the other thread about Poles in Lithuania? They're mad that Poles have been living there in large numbers for 2 centuries and have assimilated less than Russians who came after WWII. Maybe they don't wanna be Lithuanians.

well. the land was Polish for centuries, they grabbed it, so what they expect?Poles are not immigrants there, Lithuanians are

so. according to You all Ukr of what is now West Ukr during the interwar perios should have assimilated and forget they are Ukr?

I think the Lithuanians just want the Poles in their country to speak Lithuanian.

You have no idea what it ia about, do You?
hubabuba   
17 Jun 2011
News / For all Americans worried about Schengen in Poland, dont worry about it. [142]

Get on Skype and call your 1o million cousins and ask them to leave the USA, that it embarrasses you

sure, and Brits should call their cousins, Belgians theirs etc, I wonder who would be left there...
America is the country of immigrants and everyone that is there legally has a right to stay there as much as You

we absolutely hated the second

yet, We voted for him again
hubabuba   
13 Jun 2011
USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]

Harry has answered peoples questions and provided information, that I would consider "spot on" on many occasions. I have also seen him enter into worthless debates and become argumentative

the problem with Harry is that he presents the stories taken out of his a$$ as the facts, the last time I talked to him he argued that Poland invaded Czechoslovakia in 1918, this story however will not be found in a history book, but he stood by it. The guy is hopeless, so, I dont know how providing lies as facts can be seen as spot on
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Poland hold off till 28th of September

As for his comments, perhaps he can explain how Britain was supposed to attack Germany with "70 ready to fight French divisions"? Yet again Davies ignores the facts and tells Polish readers what they want to hear.

You are ommiting everything I wrote chose some words out of context, this is Your reply?
so You are saying that Davies lies when he says that Britain didnt fire a single bullet?
Ironside undertook to bomb German cities the way the Wechrmacht would bomb Polish one, Britain dodnt do even that

he doesnt write what Poles want to hear, if You read his books You would know that they are often very critical, I myself disagree with him often, but I dont dismiss the facts

I'm not from a nation which ethnically cleansed land: you, however, are.

can You just for once answer the question?stop changing the subject whenever You dont have the answer. Now I of course have to ask You where and when was the ethnic cleansing done by Poles?and the next argument starts, it is a pity we cant talk like adults

Yes, it is the same one which the international court in the Hague adjudicated Poland to have broken. Other treaties Poland broken include the 1918 interim agreement with Czechoslovakia (broken twice), the 1920 treaty of Warsaw (after which Poland sold her allies to the USSR) and the Czechoslovak-Polish Treaty on 24 April 1925 (which Poland broke by leading the joint Polish-Nazi invasion of Czechoslovakia)

5 November 1918 Polan and Czechoslovakia agreed to the borders of Śląsk Cieszyński in accordance with the ethnicity of the land, hovewer Czechoslovakia using the chaos ruling in Poland because of Pol-Ukr war and Wielkopolskie uprising invaded Polish part of Śląsk Cieszyński on 26 January 1919. 16 thousand army attacked 3 thousand Polish one. During the conflict they have murdered about 20 Polish POW. They managed to take over most of the Polis part od Śląsk Cieszyńskithen Poland regained then they had it again. Between 28-30 of January indecisive battle took place. The pressure of the Entente caused armistice. Czechooslovakia wanted to incorporate the whole Śląsk Cieszyński, after the much pressure of Western countries they agreed to negotitions. On 3rd of February the agreemnet was signed defining temporary border(Czech side gained south-western part of county of Cieszynand Frysztat).However Czechoslovakia didnt want to honour the agreement, and didnt withdrown the army(few times attacking Poland-the last battle -21-24 of February)until more pressure from the West on 25 February. On 3rd of February 1919 Czechoslovakia agreed to plebiscite, however during summer and Tuchaczeswkis offensive on Warsaw, Benes using the situation in Poland on the conference inSpa pushed the idea to drop the plebiscite (remember?the nation self determination-supposedly so important for You)almost all the land at issue was given to Czechoslovakia. Polish goverment agreed with the decision provided Czechoslovakia would let the transports of weapom for Polish Army through its territory. Despite the declarations Czechoslovakia didnt fulifill the agreement. Then in 1938 Poland took what belonged to Poalnd

And Poles never ever edit Wikipedia so it tells lies dear to their hearts, do they!

oh pleaaaasseeeeee!!!!Harry

in 1920 Britain also was supposed to help Pl....
I dont care about Your impression about my post, and I dont understand the refernce to Libya, stop with the personal comments as they are even more silly on the public forum when You dont know me personally

By asking the people, how it was done in Upper Silesia and Masuria when Poland was re-established.

agreed,

Doesn't matter in this case, since the city could have decided to allow only Germans to settle in the town. So, the decision to be multicutural wasn't a Polish but a civic feat

Poland allowed it to happen, what more do You want?

since Prussia was also a multicultural state.

hmm, again not my definition of multiculturalism
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Not true. The military, postal system and railway transport were Polish. Same as big deal of inhabitants. The defence of Westerplatte and of Poczta Główna in 1939 resulted from exactly those roles in the Wolne Miasto Gdańsk.

in 1921(?)-about 15% were Polish, 20 years later one third less, according to Versal treaty the postal system, railway and military were Polish but it was boicoted as much as possible by the German administration. I understand why You see it as multicultural, however I cant agree seeing how overwhelming Germans were there, it is just not my definition of multicultural place

Your argument is wrong. No modern nation state can claim a city, region or country because some twat from the Middle Ages owned it once.

so how You determine the boarders?isnt it by history and self determination?in that case Lwów and Wilno should be Polish

Has nothing to do with Poland or Germany but with the upcoming nationalism of the 19th century, which threatened minorities everywhere in Europe.

minorities were threated long before 19 century, if for example the city rebelled-minorities were punished much more severely,and I was not pointing out whose fault it was, simply stating the facts.

Only the city itself decided who settled inside the city walls. Part of the great privilege.

The city was freed of all taxes in the great privilege and could raise their own taxes.

and the privileges were given by who????
I wil check the taxes as I am quite sure they were paying taxes to the crown, the privilege of raisinig their own taxces does not exclude paying to the crown, it just gives them more freedom, but I will come back to You on that

Gdańsk was defended by Polish army many times, this simple information You can find even on wikipedia, again having its own army does not exclude it
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

antek read my post, I have written that it ended with partitions

Harry:
You know why you are not able to do that: because there weren't any which could have been used. But of course you will continue to lie and to say that Britain should have done more while the simple truth is that there was nothing which could have been done.

in this situation one can see the more honorable actions of the Polish Army as opposed to combined French and British that baptism of fire had as late as may 1940(...)Western allies who on September 3rd declared war, didnt fire a single bullet in the defense of Poland(...)by the end of the month the British prime minister Neville Chamberlain asked: Tell me plaese general(to Adrian Courton de Wiart)what effect did our leflets have?

This is all he writes about the phoney war, but I guess You are smarter than a man who devouted his life to Polish history
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Just put in Lviv there instead of Gdansk and Ukraine in place of Poland and you have the answer to your question :)

Lwów was Ukr, was fund by Ukr, UKr was tolerant so let Poles settle there but it was always(almost) a part of the crown, privileges were given by king to built, it was defended by Ukr army, the taxes were going to the Ukr crown. Then after partitions, this multicultural city was polonised- is it how they teach history at Ukr school?

I see Commie propaganda is still popular in parts of the world... :

maybe You would like to tell me where I am wrong?

You know why you are not able to do that: because there weren't any which could have been used. But of course you will continue to lie and to say that Britain should have done more while the simple truth is that there was nothing which could have been done.

of course I am not, how could I?am not a soldier,strategist, how could I know which division You should use
let me quote Your historian, Norman Davies if the words of Jodl are not enough for You:
page 548 and 549,Polish edition of The Gods Playground:
"According to military debates, Polish Army was supposed to hold off Wermacht for the period of two weeks, so Western allies could move 70 ready to fight French divisions stationing near Ren river. When the time came, Poles fullfiled their task but French and British didnt(...)in this situation one can see the

Yes: perhaps Poland might finally learn not to break international treaties as a result of that. Although given that Poland has some denizens like you who are genetically incapable of telling the truth, perhaps not.

so I understand that You are all for athnic cleansing?did You read the agreement I gave You what treaties are You talking about?
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

gdańsk was Polish, was fund by Poles, Poland was tolerant so let Germans settle there but it was always(almost) a part of the crown, privileges were given by king to built, it was defended by Polish army, the taxes were going to the Polish crown. Then after partitions, this multicultural city was germanised. I think it is just that it is Poland again.

and of course, in 1945 nothing was left of the old Gdańsk, so all we can see now was built by Poles
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

but it was neither, not historically and not because of inhabitants
Gdańsk-should be Polish,
Poznań-obviously Polish,
Wrocław-obviously German before the war
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
News / Gazeta Wyborcza of Poland losing readers [301]

Most of the media? Are you another person that needs reminded that the #2 daily newspaper is a PiS rag? Have you forgotten that Radio Maryja is still broadcasting their anti-government nonsense? Do you need reminded that Rydzyk's media empire is still going stron

are You another person that should do the reality check?please turn on tv, and tell me what You see, I can count on one hand the jurnalist that dont share the one right view on politics

Right, and the opposition media has never tried that? Do you need reminded that the opposition leader actually used the security services against the media?

I dont think anybody should try that

Radio Maryja

I find it funny-people bashing Radio Maryja as the most evil and dangerous force on Polish soil, seriously who listens to them?and dont start with moherowe berety- as they have no power, no influence, seriously bunch of elderly people will not take over, leave them alone because it is getting ridiculous, it is the youung minds I am worried about.

btw, have You ever listened to Radio Maryja?
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

one stubbed toe would have been too great a sacrifice for a sick ungreatfull ***** like you. Its a good job the wartime generation of Poles are dying off because they would be terminally embarresed by the whining and whinging by people who clearly know so little about the subject.

I asked a simple question,but
I guess this is what Your ancestors were thinking behaving like traitors and cowards again just like in 1920
what should we be greatfull for?

so tell me , Nathan, do You think Lwów should be Ukr because of the history or because of the nationality of inhabitants?

You need to use words which go into detail as to exactly what Britain could have done in September 1939 but did not do.

please, we are not children, I quoted Jodl, and AFTER that I said You should have been active, do You see only what You want to see?.

I am not able to tell waht weapon, what batallion You should have used if this is what You are expecting form me

Tens of thousands. 1,200 were on a single British warship which was sunk on 17 September 1939 with the loss of 518 men. But of course you have to lie about them and claim that they were not fighting

do You mean HMS courageous?are You serious?You claim they were fighting for Poland?

Yes they did.

untreaty.un.org/unts/60001_120000/20/14/00038658.pdf

please take a map in Your hand and read the agreement then come back and tell me how wrong You were

Harry, do You believe Poland should have given both Lwów and Wilno to Ukr and Lt?
hubabuba   
10 Jun 2011
News / Gazeta Wyborcza of Poland losing readers [301]

To make to story short: all those who think that they can stop people from reading what they want to read: fek off. It ain't gonna happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the problem is- wyborcza and friends have control of most of the media, and it is they who are trying to stop You from reading or watching anything else, anyone who doesnt agree with them is antisemite, racist, backward...

it is them who make "nagonke" on some people, destroying them.
Check who is writing for them, check their biographies, isnt that interesting that so many of them have communist, traitors or murderers in the families?like Michnik- father- a communist and a traitor, brother- stalinist judge, murderer, hiding in Sweden. I know that people are not responsible for the actions of their families, but that is just a great coincidence that so many alike are working together.

why is it that document about Zbigniew Herbert cannot be shown in the tv because Herbert talks bad about Michnik?why Remuszkos book is completely passed over?how is it possible that a man is invited to university for a lecture(i think) and wyborcza makes hate campain against him-calling him antisemite etc(not proving abything of course but making a lot of fuss and an atmosphere )then a man is banned from university because they heard he MIGHT be antisemite.

I dont oppose wyborcza, but the power and influence they have, it is just not healthy
hubabuba   
26 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

So you still can not tell us exactly what Britain could have done to help Poland but did not do. OK, nice of you to finally admit it.

what words do I need to use so You understand?read my answers and You will find what You are looking for

British men were fighting and dying well before France was invaded. I wonder why you feel the need to lie about their sacrifice.

how many?

Yes it is a lie. You say Britain did nothing and the historical facts are very different, this has been repeatedly pointed out to you but you still repeat your claims: that makes them lies and you a liar.

Well done, unfortunately you claimed that the British government "supported" the commies: prove that claim or admit that it is a lie. As for the Polish govt in exile being legal, remind me which free and fair elections had seen that self-apppointed government voted into office.

allright, Britain did almost nothing
it didnt need elections, look up the art 24 of April constitution of Poland-it was legal goverment. Britain abandoned alled Polish goverment in exile and recognized and cooperated with the commie one, i call it a support

Did Polish troops invade land which was on the Lithuanian side of the demarcation line? Yes, they did.
As for the treaty not mentioning Vilnius, the 1990 German-Polish border treaty doesn't mention Gdansk, does that mean the Germans can have Danzig back?

no, they didnt, because the agreed demarcation line was ending BEFORE the Vilnius region, so the reference to Gdańsk is pointless

And Poland agreed to that, the day before they invaded Lithuania and stole Lithuanian property.

how can You steal Your own property?

Liar. Even the interbellum Polish censuses (which were fixed) had to agree that the majority of the people
in south east Poland were Ukrainian!

do You have any proof that they were fixed?You are only right when it comes to villages, were majority was Ukr

My people are not in Belfast, but do feel free to lie about them being there.

I am sorry I thought You were British
hubabuba   
26 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Harry You can talk all You want , the truth is almost for a year You did nothing significant, due to You inaction Russia got involved in war, and if Germans hadnt invaded the France, You wouldnt fight at all. Pointing out 2 or 10 bombs dropped on Germany is ridicuolous

you have to lie about the other British actions.

was it a lie?as for spitting in the face I am just taking an example of the GREAT Britain,

An interesting description

again, Harry You are fighting the facts, I dont know what else can I say, is it not true?

Could you perhaps go into detail as to how my government supported the commie regime?

Your(British) goverment recognized the commie regime, and forgot about the one who was cooperating with Britain during the war- the legal Polish goverment in exile

But perhaps there is a reason that you overlooked that tiny little fact?

the treaty says about Suwalszczyzna and on the northerm land -north from Niemen river, it ends in Bastuny south from Wilno, agreed demarcation line ends before Wilno, why do You lie?

Of do you only support self-determination for Poles

the right of nations to self determine- great but why are You using this only when it suits You, Lithuanians didnt agree on plebiscite and nation self determiantion in Vilnius region, but who cares right?also in Lwow region majority were Poles, but again who cares, in the peace of Riga Dmowski didnt want to take more land because he didnt believe there was enough Poles there, leaving milions of them outside of the border

If You are so sensitive, about peoples self determination why dont Your people leave Belfast?shouldnt You rather be on British forum fighting this?

The Ukrainian army didn't terrorize Poles

the IUkrainian army terrorized whoever was defencless, vulnerable, child or women, You couldnt fight with men so Your main occupation was helping Germans