Classifieds / Translation from Swedish needed [10]

It doesn't 'mean' anything. It's a silly drinking song you'll hear at most Swedish parties.

youtu.be/JayvbANMi_s

Language / First sentence of the novel Solaris [12]

Personally I prefer the second or the first English translation but then again, my Polish isn't the greatest as I've forgotten many words and phrases. (was quite young when we left) My vocabulary is probably at a teenager's level.

Solaris was one my very first sci-fi novels and Lem is the reason I became interested in the genre.

Life / Who's the singer in "The woman in the fifth" by Paweł Pawlikowski movie? [6]

To admin/moderator: The reply function to a specific post doesn't work on an iphone. The page refreshes when I click reply...

So I'm using the bottom screen reply function instead.

Thanks for the links y'all. I tried to download the chords for Tomaszów but was prompted to submit my phone number to confirm I was an actual human being (sometimes I wonder myself ;) )

However, once I provided the number the download didn't come through? Either way, I love this song and her poetry like singing style. I'll try to figure out the guitar chords one way or the other and might try to learn it.

Until then, take care everyone..

Life / Who's the singer in "The woman in the fifth" by Paweł Pawlikowski movie? [6]

Awesome, thank you very much, wow, what a beautiful song! Is there a Polish music site where I could find the chords for it? Ideally guitar chords but even if it's piano I can probably transcribe them into guitar chords.

Dzięki !

PS. I'm about to loose my wi-fi so I'll have to listen to the other song tomorrow. Looking forward to it,
Dobranoc

Love / How many Polish men are Violent how much is domestic abuse reported. [129]

This whole thread is retarded LAgirl. Imagine if I were to start a thread titled "How many Polish women are sluts and how many men do they really sleep around with?" Offensive? You bet ya. ...and extremely unfair to the Polish women. ...or all women for that matter. Similarly, your thread is very unfair to the vast majority of Polish men and is a gigantic generalization encapsulated in utter ignorance. Yes, there are plenty of threads here that are demeaning toward Polish women but I've never started one and I often speak out against this practice.

PS. Just realized this is a 2 year old thread. So never mind... Still don't like it.

Love / Polish wife making more money than husband - does it bother you? [20]

Doesn't bother me at all. My ex made more money than me for the first few years of my flying career; her making good money was great for us. The fact she's now my ex is totally irrelevant to this subject.

History / 1937 travel brochure for Poland [15]

Yes thanks, forgot to reply, thanks for the blast from the past. ;)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]


Not a Serb who happens to be living in Germany?

Polonia / Trip to Sweden - questions [39]

You could always drive, via northern Germany, Denmark, take the Öresundsbron (Öresund bridge), Välkommen till Sverige. :-)

People who don't fly are weird.

Just keedin' LOL

Love / Do polish men like career women? [60]


+1

Yes, yummy :)

Love / How many Polish men are Violent how much is domestic abuse reported. [129]


Great comment, agree 100%. (Except the part about Polish women possibly being more aggressive, I simply don't know.)

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

Ok, patrycja, aphro and everyone else. I don't agree with you and that's it. We agree on the final goal but not on how to get there. Discrimination is wrong but I understand how you feel.

Seanus - I lost you but I also lost interest in this thread.

Grubas - I just read the other thread where you're calling me hitler. That's right, i disagree witg you so I'm Hitler. Go and **** yourself you dickhead.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

You never listen, ever. I said don't replace A WRONG with another WRONG. Don't replace one form of DISCRIMINATION with a new form of DISCRIMINATION. You're such a hypocrite. Wow...

What the hell do you know about how I spend my money? I choose which charities my money goes to, no leftist hypocrite will make me pay for crimes I never commited. And don't forget to compensate the Swedes and the Norwegians for the murders the Scottish commited against the Vikings.

Seanus, sometimes you make sense and sometimes, wow...

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

You are spreading your nonsensical propaganda here. I never caused a black person any harm. I shouldn't have to pay for him/her losing out because I've never seen anyone "lose out." They get free scholarships, waived tuitions, subsidized housing, child health care, preferential admition to high schools, colleges, universities, work places. What fkn planet do you live on? Are you insane? Should I compensate you for what the Vikings did in northern Scotland, Ireland, Holland, etc. too? Are you out of your mind? I think you're just arguing for the same of arguing because those are some of the craziest arguments I've heard so far. I'm just waiting for you to throw in the Jews and a random 9/11 conspiracy and we'll be set.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

It's pointless Grubas - discrimination is wrong but not if it targets males (or whites, etc.)

Delusional sense of justice.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]


Ok, let's hang white men because many black men were hanged. Oh wait, they killed whites too, not as often but it happened. Compensate, right? How about we scalp the whites because Indians got scalped? Oh wait, they scalped the whites too. What ratio, 1-1? Or dollar figure? $100,000? $1,000,000? or how about three billion dollars to every black person ever born in the US for the next 3,000 years? Or maybe we'll do it in affirmative action years? Three million years from now we might have paid off the debt and the affirmative action will end? Fair?

You're a hypocrite. You want to replace one wrong doing with another wrong and are totally oblivious to how prejudiced you really are. You want the grand-grand-children of former slave owners (or maybe indentured servants themselves?) to be "compensating" grand-grand-children of former slaves (or maybe slave owners themselves? - yes there were black slave owners in America)??? Why don't you go ahead and start saving up money so you can pre-compensate your grand-grand-grand children who might commit a crime in the future? You are as responsible for what they might do in the future as we are for what happened in the past.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

Seanus - seriously, how many times do I have to repeat myself. Encourage kids, foster interests in typically male dominated fields with the girls and male dominated fields with the girls, focus on science with the girls and art and social services with the boys. Interests is the key to real equality. Did you get the part where Scandinavia has many more female pilots than the US despite the fact there was no affirmative action in Sweden until fairly recently? Did you get that? That alone is all you needed to read but as always you cherry picked your favorite tidbits and left out the rest. They achieved a more equal society WITHOUT forced, reverse discrimination. That's what I mean. Quotas bring equality on paper only, numerically but not in real life. That's what I meant.

This is a very repetitious discussion. Or rather a series on monologues. I will never, ever concede to any form of legalized discrimination. I acknowledge that we have problems today but I believe we should solve them via education, encouragement and guidance. You believe we need government control. Now you bring in Israel? What's next? Das Kapital?

Dude, if you're gonna skip reading my comments then why are you even asking me questions??
I am for equality, period! If there's ever parity reached because there are just as many well-qualified men and women for the same jobs then more power to them. That's great. However if you reach fake equality via forced parity than you haven't achieved anything new. You simply replaced one form of discrimination with another. Read my comment about gender neutral interviews - it should apply to ALL aspects of life. If you understand that part of my reasoning you'll understand the rest. If not, we'll never agree.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]


Drunk? Where did that come from?? I said "spell check" since you poked fun at my spelling and then went ahead and misspelled the word Parliament, (a-missing), that's all. I guess you missed the smiley face?

As far as the rest of your comment I don't get it but that's ok. I don't believe in discrimination in public or private work force. You disagree, that's fine.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]


You really don't understand and I don't blame you for it because you haven't experienced it yet. Just one tiny example. My best friend, a female, is a computer/data tech in the military. Or was. It's not my field of expertise but I understand enough. She had a very solid resume and once she separated from the military she applied for a similar position with an oil company, basically an analyst using similar type of equipment she used before. She had much more experience than her closest competitor, in fact several additional years of experience and a higher rank. When she applied for the position she had a stellar resume, numerous and great recommendations from at least 20 other former coworkers and supervisors... We all assumed she'd get the spot because many of the recommendations came from some fairly high ranking individuals. Corporations usually value those type of recommendations. We thought she was a shoe-in. Come to find out a black female got the job even tnough she had much less experience. The minority quota was low for the year and that was it. So a "quotee" got hurt by another "quotee". You think, whoopsie doo, but those opportunities arise only once every few years. Some 5 years later she finally got a similar job but those 5 years cost her a LOT of money. Oh, the person who got the job was fired about 8 months later for failing to solve some basic problems with the software. Too late for my friend. Had they gone by experience she'd have gotten the job. Instead they used the affirmative action to discriminate against her. Two wrongs don't ever make it right.

One day your son might be turned down for a job or university education simply because he's your son and not your daughter and you might change your mind? Maybe or maybe not? Who knows...

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]


I'll say that I see what you're trying to achieve and I support those achievements. However I won't support your discriminatory ways of getting there. As I said, two wrongs don't make a right. So I understand your goals but disagree about the solution.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]


So you agree with me that it's a form of discrimination? Correct?


Well, those are small solutions but yes, I did bring up a few ideas. See posts 177, 180, 185 for example. Slow progress but progress nevertheless.


Absolutely except I thought that parliament members were chosen by the people?? ...and last time I checked women in Poland could vote AND were in fact the majority of the voting block?? So what does that say about you, women voters?


Well, in the US it's usually "against" males or whites. In Poland it's against males. For now, but it will expand, mark my words. You'll have quotas for women, for minorities, for language minorities, for transgender people, etc.

It's not always "against" the males either, in nursing for example a male gets preferential treatment over a female. I'm against that too. It should be based on your qualifications and experience and your grades, never on your penis or lack of it.

No, no one gets "booted" by the way. Instead a person doesn't get hired or admited to a university program (those that still use the affirmative action) even though they're well-qualified (have great grades) because someone from the preferred gender (race) wants the position too.


I do too. I simply don't believe we should discriminate to repair past discrimination practices. You do. I call it for what it is, government sponsored discrimination or revenge discrimination, you call it affirmative action.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

As far as your clubhouse comment - how far will your fairness doctrine go? A club house is a private club so are you saying you'll force them to admit members? I don't care per se, I think they're stupid for not allowing women in but those ARE private clubs. A very few club by the way, a tiny, tiny minority of them.

Now, in the US we have over 500 girls only/women only schools. They're all private. There used to be ONE all male school, the Citadel - but no longer. They received 5% of their funding from the government so the government said let women in or no money. They chose the money. I agree with their decision. However I find it so ironic no one cares about the plethora of girls/women only schools. Selective sense of justice?

..and no, I didn't "duck the answer" a already said that I prefer the Scandinavian approach. You on the other hand never replied to my questions.

"- ..IF you support quotas then we should apply them to ALL jobs, correct? - YES/NO?

- Each and every job, cleaners, coal-miners, farmers, garbage-, I'm sorry sanitary-workers, etc., etc. each and every job, correct??

- What if we don't have enough men for one field and women for another? Will we force them to work in those fields? I'm serious, parity, remember? Legislation, remember? Because if you say no then you're being disingenuous.

- I mean why is it important for the parliament to be 50% female but not the sewerpipe cleaners??

- ...and what number will be good enough? 45%? 50%?

- There are more women than men so they'll get around 51% of all jobs, correct?? Is that fair?

- What if a company needs 5001 employees? Will one of them have to dress as a man one week and as a woman the following week?

- ...or will you legislate the company to hire an extra person? A person that company doesn't need??

-..and how long will this "quota" system be in effect? In all eternity or until we reach a specific number?? Serious question...

...where do you draw the line?

- You either support discrimination or you don't. If you say, let's discriminate today so we don't have to do it tomorrow at least I'll know where you're coming from.

- However if you say that you support quotas but are against discrimination than you get me all confused..."

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

You said: "...SSM, so you are happy to leave the results of discrimination in place and just hope that the problem goes away? ...The way I see it, there has been discrimination against a group with no efforts to repair it. A bit like slapping people in the face and telling them, 'oh, don't worry about it, it'll pass'...

Is that really what I'm advocating? Remember, the disagreement here is about how we can reach the very same goal.

IF you and everyone else here (or most people) said something like "affirmative action i
IS a form of discrimination but we'll discriminate for a while while we're working toward a more equal society" then I'd say, ok, we agree that this is discrimination and I understand you want to speed up reaching the equality-nirvana. I disagree with the tools you're using but otherwise I understand. "

Instead, people are telling me that affirmative action is NOT a form discrimination?! Really? If that's the case then earth is flat and the end of the world starts somewhere around Arkansas.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]


Slapping people in the face, huh? Isn't that what you just did? Did you even read my posts? You know, the ones you initially agreed with? Your own post #186 for example? For someone who keeps calling himself a "pretty liberal guy" you sure love some heavy-handed government regulation.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]


I see, so it's ok to discriminate in the Polish parliament (uhm, uhm, spell check? ;)) but not in other workplaces? I see, it makes no sense to me but then again, I only do computer games.


It does if you give me more than a minute before you reply. Check again. :)

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]


Do you know how afirmative action works? I'm not sure you do. I repeat, two individual with identical qualifications are judged differently because of their gender. Apparently you're ok with it because it favors you.


I don't know. I'm arguing discrimination here. You're for it and I'm against it. Apparently this is your "solution."


...and you only want it if it's "equality" of your liking, correct? To turn down males simply because they're males is ok... because "Poland is evolving". Hypocrisy at it's best.


?? I'm lost. What's this got to do with affirmative action regulations? I'm confused?


I'm truly sad Poland is turning to discrimination but I'm even more disappointed that you (not just you but in general) can't see the unfairness in your own statements. - "Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła dopóki ja wygrałam/wygrałem?"

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

I am. But my phone corrects my spelling when it feels like it. In three languages may I add. :)

Anyways, I've said my piece on this thread. I love equality, hate racism and discrimination of ANY kind. Not sure how to reach a racial- and gender- nirvana. That's about it.

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

Sorry, dang auto-spell check. Just realized it. LOL

Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

The irony is that after some 40+ years of affirmative action regulations the US is slowly reversing the trend. The ban on use of race and gender in some school admissions a few years back is one of the first mini-steps. Europe on the other hand is going the other way, I guess it's like a pendulum, it must swing from one extreme to the other.

Like I said, I whole-heartedly support equality. I'm not sure what true equality looks like and if we'll ever reach it and if it's even possible but, no, I will never support revenge discrimination in the form of affirmative action.