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Any Polish Tatars here? [95]
Yeah,you're right
BTW: the term is TATAR, not tartar
But you mean I made a mistake or I mix it?If you thought I had made a mistake,you are wrong.
Tatar is Tatar,while if you read the mogolian history book,you will find Tartar is Turks and Mogolian.(not the turks today,i mean the turks hundred years ago).For them,which is the proud and arrogant Mogolian,Tartar is much more formal.
Tartar influenced our culture extremely deeply,one of the north tribes lingering on Siberia and their development last hundreds of years.From more than 2000years before, we began to defend ourselves against Hun(Somebody said that hun fled to Europe and became some tribes in nowadays Hungary).500 years ago due to the attack from Tartar and Turk,we rebuilt and joined all walls together formed the Great Wall.
So I don't know which one you are coming from,I mean how many years ago your grand grand father went to Russia(at that time that is not Russia).Nowadays Tatar public in Russia is the nation left by Mogolian.They are not russian,i mean the nation,not the citizen.Some tribes expanded to Europe when Mogolian conquered Asia and Europe.
Of course nowadays everybody who alive has been created millions years ago,so nation and history.we are the survivors.
P.S don't regard Tatar and Turks,or you can say Turkic is united.Tatar this tribe name first appeared in the recorded book in Turkic,Tatar was slaved by Turks.
Tatar first known and recored by Chinese is 840,which connected with others tribes.
After Tatar replaced turks became the main residents in Mogolia,Tartar,this word began to refer to all tribes except Mogolian who lives in north of china.
Later after Mogolian replaced Han(which is Chinese)in China,Tatar became some part of Mogolian,while they are different