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From: Krakow, Poland
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andy b   
26 Nov 2007
Real Estate / Mortgage in Poland (rules, rates, types, websites)? [26]

Thanks for the link cezarek, classic photos on that site.
The girls certainly look good in their matching outfits, though I have no idea if they are any good at arranging mortgages....
andy b   
19 Mar 2008
Real Estate / Luksa - Big problems with developer in Lwowska, Krakow [79]

I work for a real estate agency here in Krakow. We had two clients invest in this development with Luksa (called 'Lwowska Residence'). I am not sure the reasoning behind the developer not wanting to proceed with this investment. More than likely they sold it too cheaply in the first place, and either want to sell on the plot or resell the apartments at higher prices. Obviously, this is a developer not to be trusted. My advice to you is to try and get your money back, and then move on. One of our clients has already been paid his money back (plus a penalty), and the other one should have his money back shortly.

Regarding your question about Bud Mar and it's investment nearby ('Adonis Residence' I think it is called). Well, they are very close to delivering the finished apartments. Very late, but at least the clients will get what they paid for, unlike Lwowska Residence
andy b   
26 Jun 2008
Real Estate / Is there a Real Estate bubble in Krakow? [60]

You have been living in Krakow for 4.5 years, recently you have worked as a mortgage and property consultant/specialist, correct? So you know the market and real estate situation at first hand. What can you add to everything what was said here?

Yes, correct.
I don't really know where to start! There are so many points I could raise here.

Is there a real estate bubble in Krakow? My opinion is no, there isn't.
Perhaps this time one year ago, you could have argued that there was. Thankfully, prices stopped rising and some common sense entered the market. Prices just couldn't keep rising at the pace they were.

One year down the line, what can we see?

The average price per m2 in Krakow is 7500 PLN per m2, not much different from this time last year and now 15% below Warsaw. In the suburbs this means you could get a newbuild apartment for less than 6000 PLN per m2 (in developer's standard of course) and in the centre you can pay up to 15000-20000 per m2.

There is a lot more supply than a year ago in Krakow. The lack of spatial planning in Polish cities (which Pawian mentioned) are still an issue, but there was a lot of new apartments approved to be built in 2006/7 and they are now coming to the market.

There is still pent-up demand from the Poles for new apartments.

The fact is, the majority of Poles still live in substandard accommodation (whether it be rundown kamienicas in the centre or in blocks from the 60s and 70s in the suburbs), and as wages rise, then they aspire to get something larger and newer.

The boom in Poland in recent years was partly driven by easier access to credit as the Polish mortgage/banking market competition increased. This has halted somewhat in the past year due to the credit crunch, though the Polish experience is nowhere near as bad as in the USA or some parts of Western Europe.

So right now, we have a situation where buyers have the upper hand. They still want to buy apartments, but they are holding off, seeing if the owners/developers will reduce their prices. Alternatively, buyers can just be more discerning, waiting for the apartment that ticks all the boxes. (Pavel, this is probably not an apartment on aleja Słowackiego).

The Polish economic situation is also worth mentioning. Unemployment continues to fall (now 10%) and wages continue to rise (around 10% per annum). Inflation has moved higher, but this is a worldwide problem, and at 4%, Poland's inflation is still well below most of it's central and Eastern neighbours. The central bank of Poland has also used it's monetary policy powers to raise local interest rates and try stem inflation, something which a lot of governments around the world have failed to do. Essentially, the Polish economy still looks good, GDP growth is still high (around 6%) and foreign funds continue to flow into the economy. There are still lots of EU structural funds to be spent, which will stimulate the economy further, though we will wait to see whether the new roads and other infrastructure improvements mooted over the next few years will actually materialise!

Poland is such a big market in the region (population almost 40m) that it's property market still warrants attention from investors. You will just have to take a longer term view if investing now. Expect the prices to remain fairly stable over the course of 2008 and 2009, but for steady price growth to kick back in from 2010 onwards. This is a commonly held view if you read research from the major players in the market (maybe they are biased, but aren't we all?)

Foreign investors piled into Poland between 2003-2007. The earlier you got into Poland, the more money you made. I can now see many of these investors looking for the exit door. Not only has the PLN value of their properties risen strongly (even 100-200%, but the zloty has appreciated against all major currencies, particularly in the past year, making the gains even higher.

The argument that foreigners were responsible for the boom in Poland is flawed. They have only made up a small part of a very big market, and perhaps only influenced prices in the premium end of the market, luxury apartments in city centres for example. Some foreign developers have also paid far too much for building land as well.

So, if you look at Poland now with a foreign eye, and convert the prices on offer back into GBP/EUR/USD, sure it looks expensive. But it's all relative. The story of Poland has a long way to go, and I really think we are only in the first stage of a really impressive growth story.

I could have touched on many other issues, but must get back to work.
andy b   
26 Jun 2008
Real Estate / Is there a Real Estate bubble in Krakow? [60]

• How much is Capital Gains Tax (CGT) in Poland and how does it work?

The tax laws related to Capital Gains Tax (CGT) on the sale of real property were changed at the beginning of 2007.

Main points of old regime (for purchases completed before January 1st 2007):

- If you hold your property for 5 years you will not be subject to CGT. (It is calculated on a yearly basis, rather than monthly. For example, if you bought your property in May 2004, then the five year period starts from January 2005. No CGT is payable if you sell from January 2010 onwards.)

- If you sell within 5 years, then you are subject to CGT at 10% of the sales price. However, if within two weeks of selling the property, you declare your intention to reinvest the proceeds in Poland (contacting ministry and tax office), then you are not subject to the tax. The reinvestment must occur within a period of 2 years, otherwise you will have to pay the CGT.

Main points of new regime (for purchases completed after January 1st 2007):

- Five year rule abolished.

- Only sellers who have been resident (legally registered) in their own property for at least a year are eligible to sell a property without CGT.

- Other sellers are liable for CGT at 19% of the profit realized on the sale. The profit is calculated after all fees are taken into account, including notary costs and agency commissions.
andy b   
4 Nov 2008
Travel / Weekend in Katowice [25]

There is a new Irish bar in Katowice on ul. Wawelska 1 called "Irish mBassy". They are having the grand opening party on Saturday 15th November. Could be a good night!
andy b   
16 Apr 2009
Real Estate / Luksa - Big problems with developer in Lwowska, Krakow [79]

ANYONE KNOW IF LUKSA IS STILL SELLING APARTMENTS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT?

Luksa is not selling any apartments in this development at present. They are building something nearby on Plac Bohaterow Ghetta which they are calling Villa Wisla, villawisla.pl

I know this is still unresolved for a lot of people that bought in this investment, and that many investors are still waiting to get their money back. I wish you luck and suggest you keep your lawyer engaged on this case
andy b   
22 Jul 2009
Real Estate / IS IT A GOOD TIME TO INVEST IN POLISH REAL ESTATE? [83]

On this topic, here is an article from Warsaw Business Journal: wbj.pl/article-46148-polands-next-property-boom.html?type=lim

Like everything, you have to take this views with a grain of salt, and it is written by someone who has a vested interest in the real estate marketing in Poland improving. You may agree with some points and disagree with others. Certainly, this view is very bullish. It fails to mention what, in my opinion, is the biggest issue facing the real estate market at present, and that is the lack of access to mortgage finance, both for individual investors and developers alike. The vast majority of buyers in Poland need some kind of finance to fund a purchase, and if this is not forthcoming, they will not be able buy, simple. Let's hope the banks start to lend again soon...
andy b   
7 Sep 2009
Real Estate / Luksa - Big problems with developer in Lwowska, Krakow [79]

there is a development nearby currently being sold called "Willa Avangarda" - if you do a google search you will find a website for this development. It has sold fairly quickly at prices between around 7800 PLN per m2 and 9000 PLN per m2 (developer's standard, prices including 7% VAT). Luksa is also selling apartments in their development on Plac Bohaterów Ghetta called "Villa Wisła", you can find pricing here:

neodom.pl/Inwestycja/Kraków/Kraków_VILLA_WIS£A/6
andy b   
8 Sep 2009
Real Estate / Luksa - Big problems with developer in Lwowska, Krakow [79]

I can't see that they have any reputation after the Lwowska residence fiasco.

Having said that, the new development they are building nearby is fairly close to completion, so provided the build standard is ok, potential investors probably won't have any issues with this one.
andy b   
25 Nov 2009
Real Estate / Is there a Real Estate bubble in Krakow? [60]

Hi spammer, you and your multiple aliases are responsible for all of the same deluded lies and misinformation being spread on this forum.
andy b   
23 Feb 2010
Travel / Best way to get from Krakow to Katowice for 10.40 am flight.... [9]

The service which rich55 is referring to is run by another company, so if you are flying with someone other than Wizz, it's still an option to get to Katowice for a flight.

Not cheap, but I don't think there are any other alternatives.
You can check departure times and book here: matuszek.com.pl/transfery_en.html
andy b   
25 Mar 2010
News / Polish nightclub guard whacks off client's hand with saber [58]

Here's a link:

newpolandexpress.pl/polish_news_story-1842-bouncer_hacks_off_punter's_hand.php

A bouncer of a sex club in Krakow has been arrested for hacking off the wrist of a customer with a machete after he refused to pay for the club's services.
andy b   
30 Mar 2010
Love / Arranging a Polish wedding with a beautiful Polish girl next summer [4]

Hi, there is quite a lot involved if you want to get married in a Catholic Church in Poland.
I am part way through this process myself.
You do need to go to pre-marital classes before the marriage.
In my case, this involved four classroom sessions of an hour each, followed by three consultations ("poradnia") - two together with your partner, one by yourself. Each time we got stamps and now the completed documents have been given to the church.

You will also probably have to provide the church with certified copies of your baptism and confirmation documents.
In terms of the legal stuff, I think most of this is to be completed in the "urząd cywilny" no earlier than 3 months before the wedding. You also need to provide a document to say that you are not already married in Ireland.

Good luck!
andy b   
1 Apr 2010
News / POLISH ALCOHOL RESTRICTIONS... [9]

And it will be against the law for Polish shop assistants to ask for change. If they don't have the correct change, they will be fined!
andy b   
1 Apr 2010
News / POLISH ALCOHOL RESTRICTIONS... [9]

I was in Australia recently and it was such a refreshing change. I couldn't help myself a few times and offered the correct change, but more often than not, they didn't want it. Some places even had this nifty change machine which meant the shop assistant only had to handle the notes, and the coins were automatically dispensed. And one final thing which Australia did around 10 years ago which makes a lot of sense. They got rid of the one and two cent coins, and now everything is rounded to the nearest 5 cents.
andy b   
14 Apr 2010
Travel / Sopot Music Festival [9]

I think you are talking about the "Top Trendy" festival in Sopot, but there doesn't seem to be a date set for 2010 yet: toptrendy.pl
andy b   
29 Apr 2010
Travel / Cracow - Gdynia, what is the best way to travel between the two? [11]

I have taken the overnight train from Krakow to Gdynia a few times in order to attend the Open'er festival. Yes, it's slow, but it's also pretty cheap and a relaxing journey. Get a bed/couchette and it's possible to get a good night's sleep and wake up refreshed - unless you make some new friends who make you drink vodka until the early hours. They also do a pretty good scrambled eggs in the dining car!
andy b   
10 May 2010
UK, Ireland / EXCHANGE RATES BETWEEN POLISH ZLOTY AND BRITISH POUND [73]

Your bank will be able to do it for you, but the exchange rate will not be great.
In this situation, it is best to use a specialised currency exchange company - personally, I have used a company based in the UK called Worldwide Currencies, and they always offer a much better rate than banks which will save you a lot on a transfer of this amount: worldwidecurrencies.com
andy b   
10 May 2010
UK, Ireland / EXCHANGE RATES BETWEEN POLISH ZLOTY AND BRITISH POUND [73]

300 000 PLN / 4.5 = 66 666 GBP

The thing about these currency companies is that the rate they offer includes their commission, so if they give you a rate like 4.5 PLN / 1 GBP, then that is the rate you get - there are no extra charges
andy b   
10 May 2010
UK, Ireland / EXCHANGE RATES BETWEEN POLISH ZLOTY AND BRITISH POUND [73]

are worldwidecurrncies a reputable company??

Like Wroclaw Boy says, there are lots of currency exchange companies out there.

We have been recommending Worldwide Currencies to our clients for more than 4 years and no complaints
andy b   
11 May 2010
Work / Girl looking for job speaking English apart from teaching English. Ideas? [30]

I am not saying it will be easy to actually get one, but there are many jobs offered in different Polish cities on this website for which native English speakers should be suitable. They are in international companies where the language of the business is English: jobrapido.pl
andy b   
7 Jun 2010
Real Estate / Do any UK banks offer mortgages for Polish properties. [37]

You generally won't find banks willing to lend on property which is located in another country. If a mortgagee doesn't pay, then a bank needs recourse to the legal system, and a UK bank isn't going to risk having to deal with this in Poland.

Your best bet would be a Polish bank with an office in the UK, such as PKO BP:
pkobp.co.uk/index.php?id=placowki_pkobp_w_uk&=&lng=en
andy b   
23 Jun 2010
Real Estate / Polish mortgage providers - overview of offers? [10]

Frankly they're all a crock of **** compared to 2-3 years ago.

Commission (marża) has rocketed from a standard 2% (negotiable downwards with the right people) to 4-5% and above, offsetting any gains you might have from the overall drop in bank interest rates.

Not true, although there are still many bad offers on the market.

Probably one of the best at present - and available also to non-residents of Poland - is with Bank DnB Nord.

Their promotion for May - not sure if it is still valid - had the following main points:
0% loan commission
0% bank margin in first year - after that 1.7%
0% early loan repayment commission (either part or full) during life of loan.

Oh, and now would not be a bad time (in the next 2-3 months) to take out a CHF or Euro denominated loan. Sllly season is over as far as the run on the PLN is concerned (WTF was that 5.04 against Sterling the other week all about?) - the zloty can only strengthen in both the short and medium term.

I agree with you
andy b   
23 Jun 2010
Real Estate / Polish mortgage providers - overview of offers? [10]

It's a very competitive offer, but of course the income requirements are a little higher than other banks.

Yes, definitely clients with uncompetitive offers from banks like Dom/Noble/Metrobank should consider refinancing