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Skoda85   
26 Sep 2018
Law / Karta Stałego Pobytu - Polish heritage and permanent resident permit in Poland [7]

Hello! Long time stalker on these forums, but my first time posting.

I'm looking to move to Poland next year and as such I plan to apply for a permanent residence card, i.e. karta stałego pobytu, based on my Polish heritage. I've scoured the internet hoping to find posts from people who have been through the process, but haven't found much of anything. Seems like everyone is interested in automatic Polish citizenship by descent, but seldom few actually want to go the route of settling in Poland and eventually earning their citizenship :( I was wondering if anyone out there has been through this process already and could provide some insight?

I was recently in Poland taking a language course at the B2 level. I'm hoping to pass the C1 exam when I go back next year. So, I think I've got the language requirement squared away. However, I was wondering how rigorous the questioning at the residency interview will be. I found an online resource (Migrant.info.pl) with sample interview questions, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggested reading materials to better prepare myself. I've been reading a few books on Polish history and also recently purchased a book on Polish customs and folklore. But it would be great if I could give my studies some structure :)

Also, is it advisable to hire an attorney in Poland while going through the process?

Thank you in advance!
Skoda85   
26 Sep 2018
Law / Karta Stałego Pobytu - Polish heritage and permanent resident permit in Poland [7]

I should have specified that I am from the U.S. My apologies!

As far as the Polish heritage is concerned, I believe you may be mistaken.

According to the Urząd do spraw cudzoziemców:

Zezwolenie na pobyt stały - dla cudzoziemca posiadającego polskie pochodzenie

Podstawa prawna - ustawa z dnia 12 grudnia 2013 r. o cudzoziemcach - art. 195 ust. 1 pkt. 3 ustawy- wraz z aktami wykonawczymi

Komu i na jaki okres może zostać udzielone: Cudzoziemcowi, jeśli jest osobą o polskim pochodzeniu i zamierza osiedlić się na terytorium Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej na stałe.

Zezwolenie to udzielane jest na czas nieoznaczony.

udsc.gov.pl/cudzoziemcy/obywatele-panstw-trzecich/chce-osiedlic-sie-w-polsce/zezwolenie-na-pobyt-staly/dla-cudzoziemca-posiadajacego-polskie-pochodzenie/
Skoda85   
28 Sep 2018
Law / Karta Stałego Pobytu - Polish heritage and permanent resident permit in Poland [7]

that you have a link to the Polish nation, so of course, it's good to be able to talk about what you've done in the USA to connect to Poland

Thank you for your insightful response, delphiandomine! Yes, my grandpa's mother and father came from what is now Poland and were ethnically Polish (I have plenty of documentation to back my claim). So I had no doubts about my eligibility to at least apply, despite what the naysayers here may think ;) I want to thank you for actually answering my question, which concerned what I should expect going through the process. The Polonia community where I live isn't especially active, but I travel to Poland almost every year to spend time with extended family there. Hopefully that will be enough to demonstrate my connection to Poland (in addition to my study of the language and culture).
Skoda85   
29 Sep 2018
Genealogy / How can you tell if a surname is Polish or Polonized, and... what the heck am I, ethnically? [2]

Which country are you from? If you're from the U.S. you can obtain census records to see which language your immigrant ancestors claimed as their native tongue. Ship manifests and immigration records can sometimes assist with this as well. Alternatively, you can research your family tree to see which exact towns or villages they lived in. Once you've pinpointed them on the map, you can obtain an ethnographic map from a historical atlas (many of which are freely available online) to see which ethnicities lived in that area at that time. Some areas were multi-ethnic, sometimes making it difficult to determine which ethnicity your family belonged to...

To give you an example, I had ancestors who were ethnic Lithuanians living a few miles away from the modern day border with Poland, in a region that was historically occupied by both Poles and Lithuanians. I only know that they were Lithuanian because older generations in my family remember our immigrant forbearers identifying as Lithuanian and speaking Lithuanian (which is confirmed by their census and immigration records). Adding to this confusion is the fact that the language used to record vital records does not always reflect the ethnicity of the person documented. In the case of my Lithuanian ancestry, from circa 1800 to 1863 (or so) all the vital records were recorded in Polish, and the names were also Polonized! After 1863, all the records are in Russian, but the Polish equivalent of the names were still provided (likely because the region they were from had historically been part of the Kingdom of Poland).

I recommend reading up on the history of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth--this territory included lands occupied by the ancestors of the Poles, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians (to name a few). Having a sense of the "big picture" will help you understand the overlapping ethnicities of this part of the world.

For locating genealogical records from Poland (and other areas formerly part of the Polish state) I highly recommend the following sites:

szukajwarchiwach.pl
genealogiawarchiwach.pl
genealodzy.pl
poznan-project.psnc.pl

Good luck!