News / Polonophobia rising in Israel. [144]

I guess the thread has gone a bit off topic but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in that I don't think there is a problem of "polonophobia" in Israel. Even the original article talks about some individual case where the guy appears to have had mental issue and another case where someone said something that demonstrates some ignorance of history. Neither of those mean that there is a general problem of "polonophobia" in Israel.

News / Polonophobia rising in Israel. [144]

^ I don't know, I've only been to your country a couple of times and didn't have an opportunity to meet and talk to enough people to be able to tell if there is such a problem and I'm not too familiar with what the statistics say. I did come across a poll once that said that a majority of Poles don't want Jews to move to Poland but I'd rather not form an opinion based on just one poll.

News / Polonophobia rising in Israel. [144]

Well whether you call it a phobia or anti-polonism, I don't think such a sentiment exists in Israel. There might be some notion that eastern Europeans in general are [relatively speaking] somewhat more antisemetic than western ones, but even that doesn't mean that most Israelis begrudge them for it. When you are surrounded by nations that want to literally destroy you, and believe that everybody else has at least some hatred towards you, you don't waste your mental energy on being resentful towards people who aren't actively trying to kill you. IDK if that makes sense but that's how I perceive it.

News / Polonophobia rising in Israel. [144]


Yeah, I'm from Israel. I kind of fell in love with Poland a couple of years ago when I first came to visit, partly because my bf is Polish and partly because I think that objectively you have an amazing country. I can certainly believe that there is a lot of antisemitism in France and other parts of western Europe, maybe they're just less upfront about it or whatnot but I can believe that it's there. As for anti-polonism, I must say that I've never heard of such a notion existing anywhere and I don't understand why anyone would resent you, neither here nor in places like France and the like.


Well Israelis tend to be very Israeli-centric [and paranoid about what everyone thinks about them as a result], so I can hardly blame you for that...

News / Polonophobia rising in Israel. [144]


Well I guess there is a notion that more Polish people were willing participants of the holocaust than in other countries, but afaik almost all the resentment is towards Germany and even that I think has mostly died out in recent years. As for the demand for compensations, idk much about it but I think different organizations here try to push to get compensations from various different countries in Europe in order to help the survivors who lived in those countries at the time, so I don't think it's aimed specifically at Poland. Either way I think it comes more from a place of wanting money [presumably for the survivors] than from a place of resentment. As for Russia, I can see why you would be resentful of them but I don't really understand what grounds they would have to be resentful towards you. And as for the UK and the like, if they are willing to open the doors to millions of middle easterners and Africans, and to determine that it's not PC to criticize that, I don't see what right they have to complain about Polish people coming in as well.

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Yeah, I can understand that, tbh I don't think I'd help anyone out myself if I were in that kind of position, and I know that more Poles helped Jews than any other nation, it so happens that I came across an article written about it here about a month ago.


Yeah... I know, I hear a lot about SJW ideology from youtube and you can see evidence of it all over western media. My bf thinks it's because history lessons are geared towards teaching kids about their own countries and thus put an emphasis on their own countries wrong doings, as though other nations aren't equally guilty of slavery, imperialism and so on. Over here back when the left were still a thing [and admittedly they pretty much haven't been since 2009 or so] they used to heavily push the idea that Israel is the sole party responsible for the israeli-palestinian conflict and for all the other conflicts we have with our neighbors and for any other issues we have in general. I know it's not quite the same thing but it seems to run along the same lines of "we're the only side that has agency/blame".


I see, I didn't know Russian people were still so prone to believing in propaganda done by their government, you would think they would have learned from their own recent history...